Peak Kevin Durant added to Michael Jordan's NBA Finals opponents.

[bledredwine]

Same with mj

The 98 Bulls were not a super team. Jordan was the only all-star. Pippen played in 44 games and had a back injury in game 6 of the finals, the only game in NBA finals history where 1 player(Jordan) outscored all of his teammates. In the last 2 minutes Jordan scored, stole the ball, and scored again. No other Chicago Bulls touched the ball. No other Chicago Bulls averaged 17 or more ppg during the playoffs. Dennis Rodman didn’t make an all-defensive team and washed out of the league afterwards. Luc Longley was the starting center and only played in 58 games and missed 3 playoff games due to injuries that would lead to his retirement in 2001. It’s the oldest team to ever win a championship.

1998 was a carry job. Jordan’s VORP in the regular season and playoffs is almost equal to Pippen’s VORP + Rodman’s VORP + Kukoc’s VORP.

Comparing 2017 Curry to 1998 Pippen is just silly.

Regular season
Curry: 25, 7, and 5, 62.4 TS%, 24.6 PER, 79 games played
Pippen: 19, 6, and 5, 53.3 TS%, 20.4 PER, 44 games played

Playoffs
Curry: 28, 7, and 6, 65.9 TS%, 27.1 PER
Pippen: 17, 7, and 5, 50 TS%, 19.5 PER

Now do that same thing you just did, on any other teams in 98 that Bulls played in the playoffs.
Just pippen vs the other teams 2nd best player. LOLs.

Not accounting Dennis (HOF, top 75) and Tony (HOF, 6th man of the year), and Harper (20 pt scorer before sacrificing to join bulls)
Cause if you had to compare Dennis, Tony, Harper, to the rest of the players on other teams best 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th palyers, you'll be scratching your head trying to make a case for yourself.

Wrong.

The Sonics win, the Jazz are similar or better, especially if you actually watched and knew Pippen was a shell of himself in the sixth championship all series, where Jordan had to score over 50% of the team’s points in the final game, Phoenix straight up had more fire power, though the Bulls had better defense, and LAL had plenty of talent as well.

[bledredwine]

Now do that same thing you just did, on any other teams in 98 that Bulls played in the playoffs.
Just pippen vs the other teams 2nd best player. LOLs.

Not accounting Dennis (HOF, top 75) and Tony (HOF, 6th man of the year), and Harper (20 pt scorer before sacrificing to join bulls)
Cause if you had to compare Dennis, Tony, Harper, to the rest of the players on other teams best 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th palyers, you'll be scratching your head trying to make a case for yourself.

Kukoc was 6th man of the year in 1996, not 1998. He is in the HOF based on his international accomplishments. He never made an all-star team.

Rodman wasn’t in his prime and was 36.

Ron Harper was 34 years old and was 4 years from being a 20 point scorer.

Comparing the 1998 Bulls to the 2017 Warriors is silly. That’s like calling the 2022 Lakers a Superteam because they had LeBron, AD, Westbrook, Carmelo, Rondo, Dwight, DeAndre Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and Trevor Ariza.

You really think Jordan’s supporting cast was so much better than Reggie Miller’s? The Bulls won the series because Jordan had almost double the GmSc of Reggie Miller. Rik Smits, the Davis brothers, Mark Jackson, Jalen Rose, Chris Mullin, ect.

In 1998 there was an actual superteam of Drexler, Hakeem, and Barkley, who lost to the Jazz who lost to the Bulls.

Their finals opponents best players were 34 year old Karl Malone, 35 year old Stockton, and 35 year old Jeff Hornacek. That geriatric ass squad made the finals. That's how weak the NBA was at that time. Compared to the rest of the NBA the Bulls certainly were a superteam. Kukoc was massively important and a phenomenal #3 player for the Bulls.

You can do this easily for Lebron, who played a bubble Miami Heat team and Butler played just as well if not better than Lebron.

You’re talking about players who were elite in old age. Malone was killing it years later and there were plenty of younger players in the league. Why didn’t they make it?

Yeah, and this league now was weak since they faced 35 year old lebron, right? And what about Jordan’s age as well? That jazz team was elite, no matter what you wish to believe.

This is what we call double standards.

By the way, what if Lebron wasn't literally saved by Bosh's rebound and Allen's 3? He put the team in a losing position. Jordan never did that.
He did just the opposite, so whatever points you have here are moot.

Besides, isn't that a good thing if someone can be so dominant like Jordan and yet the players around him thrive? It's unlike Lebron where his all stars were mitigated playing next to him. Jordan is exactly what you want to win and that's why he won back to back to back.... and back to back to back again while Lebron had players on the opposing team even playing to his level and even choked or struggled in some series as well.

.397 field goal percentage in a series of his prime where he was finally required to put up volume shots (35 ppg, which Jordan would average regularly in his prime on .500+ efficiency), the near choke when saved by Ray Allen/Bosh putting his team in a losing position,
the choke in 2011, the bubble Heat series where Butler played just as well,

letting Durant put up a much more efficient 35 ppg on him, outplaying him in the clutch,
choosing not to guard Durant the next year,
and of course Anthony Davis playing just as well in a series.

Yeah, not GOAT quality stuff, so all of these points are a way of making excuses to keep a rose-tinted point of view.

[ball_takes23]

Now do that same thing you just did, on any other teams in 98 that Bulls played in the playoffs.
Just pippen vs the other teams 2nd best player. LOLs.

Not accounting Dennis (HOF, top 75) and Tony (HOF, 6th man of the year), and Harper (20 pt scorer before sacrificing to join bulls)
Cause if you had to compare Dennis, Tony, Harper, to the rest of the players on other teams best 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th palyers, you'll be scratching your head trying to make a case for yourself.

Kukoc was 6th man of the year in 1996, not 1998. He is in the HOF based on his international accomplishments. He never made an all-star team.

Rodman wasn’t in his prime and was 36.

Ron Harper was 34 years old and was 4 years from being a 20 point scorer.

Comparing the 1998 Bulls to the 2017 Warriors is silly. That’s like calling the 2022 Lakers a Superteam because they had LeBron, AD, Westbrook, Carmelo, Rondo, Dwight, DeAndre Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and Trevor Ariza.

You really think Jordan’s supporting cast was so much better than Reggie Miller’s? The Bulls won the series because Jordan had almost double the GmSc of Reggie Miller. Rik Smits, the Davis brothers, Mark Jackson, Jalen Rose, Chris Mullin, ect.

In 1998 there was an actual superteam of Drexler, Hakeem, and Barkley, who lost to the Jazz who lost to the Bulls.

Their finals opponents best players were 34 year old Karl Malone, 35 year old Stockton, and 35 year old Jeff Hornacek. That geriatric ass squad made the finals. That's how weak the NBA was at that time. Compared to the rest of the NBA the Bulls certainly were a superteam. Kukoc was massively important and a phenomenal #3 player for the Bulls.

That Jazz team was so weak that they swept a Lakers team with 26 year old Shaq that was two years away from starting their 3-peat and beat a Duncan/Robinson Spurs team in 5 that was one year away from starting their dynasty. The two teams that owned the "Lebron era" could only take a combined one game off of that "geriatric" Jazz squad.

[bledredwine]

Kukoc was 6th man of the year in 1996, not 1998. He is in the HOF based on his international accomplishments. He never made an all-star team.

Rodman wasn’t in his prime and was 36.

Ron Harper was 34 years old and was 4 years from being a 20 point scorer.

Comparing the 1998 Bulls to the 2017 Warriors is silly. That’s like calling the 2022 Lakers a Superteam because they had LeBron, AD, Westbrook, Carmelo, Rondo, Dwight, DeAndre Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and Trevor Ariza.

You really think Jordan’s supporting cast was so much better than Reggie Miller’s? The Bulls won the series because Jordan had almost double the GmSc of Reggie Miller. Rik Smits, the Davis brothers, Mark Jackson, Jalen Rose, Chris Mullin, ect.

In 1998 there was an actual superteam of Drexler, Hakeem, and Barkley, who lost to the Jazz who lost to the Bulls.

Their finals opponents best players were 34 year old Karl Malone, 35 year old Stockton, and 35 year old Jeff Hornacek. That geriatric ass squad made the finals. That's how weak the NBA was at that time. Compared to the rest of the NBA the Bulls certainly were a superteam. Kukoc was massively important and a phenomenal #3 player for the Bulls.

That Jazz team was so weak that they swept a Lakers team with 26 year old Shaq that was two years away from starting their 3-peat and beat a Duncan/Robinson Spurs team in 5 that was one year away from starting their dynasty. The two teams that owned the "Lebron era" could only take a combined one game off of that "geriatric" Jazz squad.

Damn. And that’s checkmate.

Yeah, think about how old that Spurs starting lineup was that crushed Miami, if we want to use his logic with a reverse uno.

[ball_takes23]

Well KD never won a title without a super team..

Same with mj

The 98 Bulls were not a super team. Jordan was the only all-star. Pippen played in 44 games and had a back injury in game 6 of the finals, the only game in NBA finals history where 1 player(Jordan) outscored all of his teammates. In the last 2 minutes Jordan scored, stole the ball, and scored again. No other Chicago Bulls touched the ball. No other Chicago Bulls averaged 17 or more ppg during the playoffs. Dennis Rodman didn’t make an all-defensive team and washed out of the league afterwards. Luc Longley was the starting center and only played in 58 games and missed 3 playoff games due to injuries that would lead to his retirement in 2001. It’s the oldest team to ever win a championship.

1998 was a carry job. Jordan’s VORP in the regular season and playoffs is almost equal to Pippen’s VORP + Rodman’s VORP + Kukoc’s VORP.

Comparing 2017 Curry to 1998 Pippen is just silly.

Regular season
Curry: 25, 7, and 5, 62.4 TS%, 24.6 PER, 79 games played
Pippen: 19, 6, and 5, 53.3 TS%, 20.4 PER, 44 games played

Playoffs
Curry: 28, 7, and 6, 65.9 TS%, 27.1 PER
Pippen: 17, 7, and 5, 50 TS%, 19.5 PER

1998 Pippen compares MUCH more favorably to 2014 Wade than he does to 2017 Curry. The only difference between 2014 Wade and 1998 Pippen is who their Batman's were.

[EmpireFalls]

So sick of the same people trying to turn every single thread into the same hackneyed LeBron Jordan debate

I swear some of you can only see basketball through the lens of Jordan GOAT or LeBron GOAT

[ball_takes23]

So sick of the same people trying to turn every single thread into the same hackneyed LeBron Jordan debate

I swear some of you can only see basketball through the lens of Jordan GOAT or LeBron GOAT

ah yes, let me come to the "Peak Kevin Durant added to Michael Jordan's NBA Finals opponents" thread to get away from the Lebron/MJ debate. lol. you're not the brightest bulb.

[EmpireFalls]

So sick of the same people trying to turn every single thread into the same hackneyed LeBron Jordan debate

I swear some of you can only see basketball through the lens of Jordan GOAT or LeBron GOAT

ah yes, let me come to the "Peak Kevin Durant added to Michael Jordan's NBA Finals opponents" thread to get away from the Lebron/MJ debate. lol. you're not the brightest bulb.

I’m not the brightest bulb? Who are you? What do you know about me and what I believe? Why are you throwing insults like this when I’ve said nothing wrong? What makes you such a wizened genius, with your 2 month old account, “ball_takes23”?

To bring it back on topic; what do you disagree with in my initial comment?

Here you go.

I’ve just gotten about 10 notifications of inane repetitive debates from the GOAT thread, no one is really discussing the topic anymore. I think KD would be absolutely unstoppable in the 90s.

Obviously they’d lose all of them if he was added to each single Finals team individually. There was no player in the 90s who could match his 3 point efficiency and his iso shotmaking would be unguardable. KD with any of the 91 Lakers 92 Blazers 93 Suns 96 Sonics 97/98 Jazz would be better than the Bulls.

But if he joined the Lakers before 91 he likely wouldn’t be able to switch teams every year, would he? So in all likelihood they’d lose the first one and then KD would be stuck with failed superteams aka exactly what happened after 2019 in reality.

Steve Kerr had much better 3 point efficiency than Durant.

As did plenty of 90s players and also the late 80s Cavs. Sure, they didn't care much for the 3 back then, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have had some crazy three point shooters back then, just like you do now.

Durant sure wouldn't be able to drive easily like he has been able to. That's the adjustment.

Do you think spacing in 2016 was super amazing compared to the 90s? The OKC starting lineup that year: Russ (very poor shooter for a guard), Roberson (one of the worst shooters I’ve ever seen), KD, Ibaka (OK stretch 4), Adams (complete non shooter)… that’s 90s spacing at best.

KD was able to be just fine that year, facing two top 10 SRS teams ever in San Antonio + Golden State. I could point at playoff years like 2012 as well where he had a blistering 30 on +9% rTS in poor spacing environments. He would inarguably be the best scorer behind Jordan in the 90s.

What made KD so unstoppable in his prime was the inability of anyone to contest his shot, he was so long and dynamic that he could get a pull-up at will. In the illegal defense 90s he’d get ISOs whenever he wanted, he’d be amazing… it wasn’t just the 3s it was every type of shot, he had every counter.

All those Finals were close bar ‘91. Adding the best scorer in the world behind Jordan and a top 3 player in the NBA would tilt them, that just how basketball works. Adding peak KD to basically any Finals loser would give them the win.

[akula1488]

the much better question, is replacing the best player in Michael Jordan's NBA Finals opponents with Lebron James, how many titles MJ would've won?

[Showtime 80]

Their finals opponents best players were 34 year old Karl Malone, 35 year old Stockton, and 35 year old Jeff Hornacek. That geriatric ass squad made the finals. That's how weak the NBA was at that time. Compared to the rest of the NBA the Bulls certainly were a superteam. Kukoc was massively important and a phenomenal #3 player for the Bulls.

That Jazz team was so weak that they swept a Lakers team with 26 year old Shaq that was two years away from starting their 3-peat and beat a Duncan/Robinson Spurs team in 5 that was one year away from starting their dynasty. The two teams that owned the "Lebron era" could only take a combined one game off of that "geriatric" Jazz squad.

Damn. And that’s checkmate.

Yeah, think about how old that Spurs starting lineup was that crushed Miami, if we want to use his logic with a reverse uno.

Thank you! Duncan was older than all of the Jazz main core when he crushed LeBald in 2014

Shaq, Kobe and Duncan all thank their lucky stars a prime Malone/Stickton were not present during the 2000/10’s. Heck they should’ve won against Nash/Nowitzki in the 2001 playoffs with Malone being the best player in that series.

These modern soy boys think fancy illegal dribbles and athleticism would work against the fundamentally sound, experience and bball IQ of those late 90’s Jazz.

Think about it if it wasn’t for the real GOAT, those Jazz would’ve been back to back champs taking out a who’s who of hall of fakers in their wake.

[bledredwine]

The 98 Bulls were not a super team. Jordan was the only all-star. Pippen played in 44 games and had a back injury in game 6 of the finals, the only game in NBA finals history where 1 player(Jordan) outscored all of his teammates. In the last 2 minutes Jordan scored, stole the ball, and scored again. No other Chicago Bulls touched the ball. No other Chicago Bulls averaged 17 or more ppg during the playoffs. Dennis Rodman didn’t make an all-defensive team and washed out of the league afterwards. Luc Longley was the starting center and only played in 58 games and missed 3 playoff games due to injuries that would lead to his retirement in 2001. It’s the oldest team to ever win a championship.

1998 was a carry job. Jordan’s VORP in the regular season and playoffs is almost equal to Pippen’s VORP + Rodman’s VORP + Kukoc’s VORP.

Comparing 2017 Curry to 1998 Pippen is just silly.

Regular season
Curry: 25, 7, and 5, 62.4 TS%, 24.6 PER, 79 games played
Pippen: 19, 6, and 5, 53.3 TS%, 20.4 PER, 44 games played

Playoffs
Curry: 28, 7, and 6, 65.9 TS%, 27.1 PER
Pippen: 17, 7, and 5, 50 TS%, 19.5 PER

Now do that same thing you just did, on any other teams in 98 that Bulls played in the playoffs.
Just pippen vs the other teams 2nd best player. LOLs.

Not accounting Dennis (HOF, top 75) and Tony (HOF, 6th man of the year), and Harper (20 pt scorer before sacrificing to join bulls)
Cause if you had to compare Dennis, Tony, Harper, to the rest of the players on other teams best 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th palyers, you'll be scratching your head trying to make a case for yourself.

Kukoc was 6th man of the year in 1996, not 1998. He is in the HOF based on his international accomplishments. He never made an all-star team.

Rodman wasn’t in his prime and was 36.

Ron Harper was 34 years old and was 4 years from being a 20 point scorer.

Comparing the 1998 Bulls to the 2017 Warriors is silly. That’s like calling the 2022 Lakers a Superteam because they had LeBron, AD, Westbrook, Carmelo, Rondo, Dwight, DeAndre Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and Trevor Ariza.

You really think Jordan’s supporting cast was so much better than Reggie Miller’s? The Bulls won the series because Jordan had almost double the GmSc of Reggie Miller. Rik Smits, the Davis brothers, Mark Jackson, Jalen Rose, Chris Mullin, ect.

In 1998 there was an actual superteam of Drexler, Hakeem, and Barkley, who lost to the Jazz who lost to the Bulls.

They didn’t watch and follow propaganda from the PC forum. They don’t watch, and the more they post, the deeper they dig, the more this shows.

[bledredwine]

Obviously they’d lose all of them if he was added to each single Finals team individually. There was no player in the 90s who could match his 3 point efficiency and his iso shotmaking would be unguardable. KD with any of the 91 Lakers 92 Blazers 93 Suns 96 Sonics 97/98 Jazz would be better than the Bulls.

But if he joined the Lakers before 91 he likely wouldn’t be able to switch teams every year, would he? So in all likelihood they’d lose the first one and then KD would be stuck with failed superteams aka exactly what happened after 2019 in reality.

Steve Kerr had much better 3 point efficiency than Durant.

As did plenty of 90s players and also the late 80s Cavs. Sure, they didn't care much for the 3 back then, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have had some crazy three point shooters back then, just like you do now.

Durant sure wouldn't be able to drive easily like he has been able to. That's the adjustment.

Rudy Gobert has a much better TS% than Jordan.

As do plenty of big men in the League. Sure, they don't care much for scoring in todays league, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have some crazy scoring numbers from bigs today.

Gobert would simply just need to shoot more. That's the adjustment.

Gobert’s 2 points tonight was amazing! Hakeem and Jordan would be shaking in their boots!

Now do you see what I’m saying about field goal percentage not indicating excellence?

Rudy’s squad got slaughtered by forty and he put up… 2 points. Jordan scored fifty more times than he scored under twenty.

[NbaAllDay]

Steve Kerr had much better 3 point efficiency than Durant.

As did plenty of 90s players and also the late 80s Cavs. Sure, they didn't care much for the 3 back then, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have had some crazy three point shooters back then, just like you do now.

Durant sure wouldn't be able to drive easily like he has been able to. That's the adjustment.

Rudy Gobert has a much better TS% than Jordan.

As do plenty of big men in the League. Sure, they don't care much for scoring in todays league, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have some crazy scoring numbers from bigs today.

Gobert would simply just need to shoot more. That's the adjustment.

Gobert’s 2 points tonight was amazing! Hakeem and Jordan would be shaking in their boots!

Now do you see what I’m saying about field goal percentage not indicating excellence?

Rudy’s squad got slaughtered by forty and he put up… 2 points. Jordan scored fifty more times than he scored under twenty.

The hilarious part about this entire thing is I mirrored your post almost exactly to show you how misleading and disingenuous it was. Yet instead of picking up on this you proceeded to pull my post apart without seeing that you were also pulling apart and exposing the flaws in your own original post.

I assumed you were playing a character in your response, but the fact you actually thought I was being serious is a good indication of the level of your own posts.

I couldn't have scripted it any better if I tried.

[ScrantonBulls]

Rudy Gobert has a much better TS% than Jordan.

As do plenty of big men in the League. Sure, they don't care much for scoring in todays league, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have some crazy scoring numbers from bigs today.

Gobert would simply just need to shoot more. That's the adjustment.

Gobert’s 2 points tonight was amazing! Hakeem and Jordan would be shaking in their boots!

Now do you see what I’m saying about field goal percentage not indicating excellence?

Rudy’s squad got slaughtered by forty and he put up… 2 points. Jordan scored fifty more times than he scored under twenty.

The hilarious part about this entire thing is I mirrored your post almost exactly to show you how misleading and disingenuous it was. Yet instead of picking up on this you proceeded to pull my post apart without seeing that you were also pulling apart and exposing the flaws in your own original post.

I assumed you were playing a character in your response, but the fact you actually thought I was being serious is a good indication of the level of your own posts.

I couldn't have scripted it any better if I tried.

****Ing lmao. This may be the best thing I've ever read on here. A brutal takedown - against himself

[KrAzY3]

I wonder how MJs career would look in Hakeems spot on the Rockets, and how Hakeem would look with Pippen and Rodman as his teammates.

Hakeem played with Pippen... so we kind of know the answer to that.

Before anyone tries to claim this was washed up Pippen or something, it was literally the year after he won a championship with Jordan. That team had Barkley as well.

Let me check what pippen shot in the playoffs for the rockets. Hmm, 33%. That feels washed to me. Also, Hakeem and Barkley were 36 back in the day when 36 meant something and Hakeems counterpart in that series was basically peak Shaq. This feels a wee bit different than getting pippen and Hakeems primes overlapping for like 9 years.

Keep in mind he's going from a title season with the Bulls where Rodman is 36 and Jordan is 34. The combined age of the top 3 on each of those teams is virtually identical. So the idea is he from one season to the next goes from greatest wingman ever to washed?

Pretty big coincidence eh? The reality is he was never very reliable in the playoffs, he just had Jordan to lean on who was incredibly reliable. For example, in the previous playoffs he had games where he put up 4, 10, 6 and 8 points. The least amount of points Jordan ever scored in a playoff game was 15, while Pippen scored single digits 30 times. It's not about being washed, it's about Pippen just not being that dude.

[bledredwine]

Rudy Gobert has a much better TS% than Jordan.

As do plenty of big men in the League. Sure, they don't care much for scoring in todays league, but if given the green light and if defenders had to sag off with spacing, you would have some crazy scoring numbers from bigs today.

Gobert would simply just need to shoot more. That's the adjustment.

Gobert’s 2 points tonight was amazing! Hakeem and Jordan would be shaking in their boots!

Now do you see what I’m saying about field goal percentage not indicating excellence?

Rudy’s squad got slaughtered by forty and he put up… 2 points. Jordan scored fifty more times than he scored under twenty.

The hilarious part about this entire thing is I mirrored your post almost exactly to show you how misleading and disingenuous it was. Yet instead of picking up on this you proceeded to pull my post apart without seeing that you were also pulling apart and exposing the flaws in your own original post.

I assumed you were playing a character in your response, but the fact you actually thought I was being serious is a good indication of the level of your own posts.

I couldn't have scripted it any better if I tried.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Xzqea54F4AE?si=VRLXUTFPqc5mB6_G

If you knew what you were doing, you would have noticed that the post I quoted claimed that Kevin Durant had by far the best three point percentage, which is pure bullcrap, so the joke’s on you!

[ScrantonBulls]

Gobert’s 2 points tonight was amazing! Hakeem and Jordan would be shaking in their boots!

Now do you see what I’m saying about field goal percentage not indicating excellence?

Rudy’s squad got slaughtered by forty and he put up… 2 points. Jordan scored fifty more times than he scored under twenty.

The hilarious part about this entire thing is I mirrored your post almost exactly to show you how misleading and disingenuous it was. Yet instead of picking up on this you proceeded to pull my post apart without seeing that you were also pulling apart and exposing the flaws in your own original post.

I assumed you were playing a character in your response, but the fact you actually thought I was being serious is a good indication of the level of your own posts.

I couldn't have scripted it any better if I tried.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Xzqea54F4AE?si=VRLXUTFPqc5mB6_G

If you knew what you were doing, you would have noticed that the post I quoted claimed that Kevin Durant had by far the best three point percentage, which is pure bullcrap, so the joke’s on you!

By golly, it turns out he knew what was going on and was playing 4d chess this whole time. We've been outwitted by bledredwine once again!

[Iwasawitness]

The 98 Bulls were not a super team. Jordan was the only all-star. Pippen played in 44 games and had a back injury in game 6 of the finals, the only game in NBA finals history where 1 player(Jordan) outscored all of his teammates. In the last 2 minutes Jordan scored, stole the ball, and scored again. No other Chicago Bulls touched the ball. No other Chicago Bulls averaged 17 or more ppg during the playoffs. Dennis Rodman didn’t make an all-defensive team and washed out of the league afterwards. Luc Longley was the starting center and only played in 58 games and missed 3 playoff games due to injuries that would lead to his retirement in 2001. It’s the oldest team to ever win a championship.

1998 was a carry job. Jordan’s VORP in the regular season and playoffs is almost equal to Pippen’s VORP + Rodman’s VORP + Kukoc’s VORP.

Comparing 2017 Curry to 1998 Pippen is just silly.

Regular season
Curry: 25, 7, and 5, 62.4 TS%, 24.6 PER, 79 games played
Pippen: 19, 6, and 5, 53.3 TS%, 20.4 PER, 44 games played

Playoffs
Curry: 28, 7, and 6, 65.9 TS%, 27.1 PER
Pippen: 17, 7, and 5, 50 TS%, 19.5 PER

Now do that same thing you just did, on any other teams in 98 that Bulls played in the playoffs.
Just pippen vs the other teams 2nd best player. LOLs.

Not accounting Dennis (HOF, top 75) and Tony (HOF, 6th man of the year), and Harper (20 pt scorer before sacrificing to join bulls)
Cause if you had to compare Dennis, Tony, Harper, to the rest of the players on other teams best 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th palyers, you'll be scratching your head trying to make a case for yourself.

Wrong.

The Sonics win, the Jazz are similar or better, especially if you actually watched and knew Pippen was a shell of himself in the sixth championship all series, where Jordan had to score over 50% of the team’s points in the final game, Phoenix straight up had more fire power, though the Bulls had better defense, and LAL had plenty of talent as well.

You didn’t even watch, so don’t criticize others for not doing the same.

[Iwasawitness]

Their finals opponents best players were 34 year old Karl Malone, 35 year old Stockton, and 35 year old Jeff Hornacek. That geriatric ass squad made the finals. That's how weak the NBA was at that time. Compared to the rest of the NBA the Bulls certainly were a superteam. Kukoc was massively important and a phenomenal #3 player for the Bulls.

That Jazz team was so weak that they swept a Lakers team with 26 year old Shaq that was two years away from starting their 3-peat and beat a Duncan/Robinson Spurs team in 5 that was one year away from starting their dynasty. The two teams that owned the "Lebron era" could only take a combined one game off of that "geriatric" Jazz squad.

Damn. And that’s checkmate.

Yeah, think about how old that Spurs starting lineup was that crushed Miami, if we want to use his logic with a reverse uno.

That’s a checkmate?

Shaq had no legitimate number 2 on that lakers team, Kobe wasn’t Kobe yet.

Duncan was a rookie and the Jazz were a bad matchup for the Spurs.

It’s not the gotcha you think it is. It’s just another out of context post that can easily be picked apart with the least bit of critical thinking, something you clearly aren’t capable of doing.

[Bergmaniac]

How are there still so many posters willing to write serious replies to bledredwine on anything Jordan or LeBron related? It's more useless than debating the most fanatic creationist.