Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade

[Wooderson]

You don’t understand getting something is better than nothing? And as much as you attempt to belittle those two, Towns/OG plus is something.

Bucks aren’t getting a blue chip youth for Giannis. Not any more.

"Something is better than nothing" is a totally different statement than "setting them back decades" if they dont make a trade at all. The latter is just ridiculous hyperbole.

So you really think if Bucks let Giannis walk for nothing - lose him 2027 free agency - it doesn’t set them back for decades.

Give a ball park estimate of what future assets 30 yr old Towns at $57M/year and OG at $40M+ will bring back with the 2nd apron inhibitor these days. Because the Bucks have zero use for them as players without Giannis. So the deal needs to bring in 3rd team minimum to complete.

And no, I dont think those future asset are the difference between success and being "set back decades". Like you essentially said Giannis isnt worth that type of package. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

[Wolveswin]

"Something is better than nothing" is a totally different statement than "setting them back decades" if they dont make a trade at all. The latter is just ridiculous hyperbole.

So you really think if Bucks let Giannis walk for nothing - lose him 2027 free agency - it doesn’t set them back for decades.

Give a ball park estimate of what future assets 30 yr old Towns at $57M/year and OG at $40M+ will bring back with the 2nd apron inhibitor these days. Because the Bucks have zero use for them as players without Giannis. So the deal needs to bring in 3rd team minimum to complete.

And no, I dont think those future asset are the difference between success and being "set back decades". Like you essentially said Giannis isnt worth that type of package. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You are making no sense whatsoever.

With Giannis committing to NY, Towns and OG (plus) is the offer. Being Bucks keep them for win-now purposes (since Bucks don’t own future) or forward them to other teams for youth/picks is Bucks choice.

Letting Giannis walk for nothing is decades set back.

Not sure where you are confused. But you surely are confused.

[Packbuckman]

Giannis is not getting traded this season and if the bucks have a season they are capable of he never will be traded. Did the Bucks and Knicks talk maybe but it wasn’t like they were in serious trade talks or that Giannis wants to go there they asked Giannis a question and he mentioned the Knicks if not Milwaukee but the media and Shams the douche bag are just running with it. When the bucks are playing good and winning this yr that will shut a lot of them up.

[Wooderson]

So you really think if Bucks let Giannis walk for nothing - lose him 2027 free agency - it doesn’t set them back for decades.

Give a ball park estimate of what future assets 30 yr old Towns at $57M/year and OG at $40M+ will bring back with the 2nd apron inhibitor these days. Because the Bucks have zero use for them as players without Giannis. So the deal needs to bring in 3rd team minimum to complete.

And no, I dont think those future asset are the difference between success and being "set back decades". Like you essentially said Giannis isnt worth that type of package. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You are making no sense whatsoever.

With Giannis committing to NY, Towns and OG (plus) is the offer. Being Bucks keep them for win-now purposes (since Bucks don’t own future) or forward them to other teams for youth/picks is Bucks choice.

Letting Giannis walk for nothing is decades set back.

Not sure where you are confused. But you surely are confused.

You cannot be serious. Towns/OG have a few years left of their peak play, how is not getting and keeping them affecting the franchise by decades??? Being a crap team with no picks versus a borderline play-in team legit makes zero difference out the franchise outlook as soon as the players leave.

And Towns can opt out and be a free agent in 2027, so you could literally be looking at like 1 or 2 years of play max. Again, "setting them back decades" is ridiculous hyperbole. Sure maybe if the Bucks actually got a package close to Giannis value, not the poo poo platter you're throwing out there.

[Wolveswin]

Give a ball park estimate of what future assets 30 yr old Towns at $57M/year and OG at $40M+ will bring back with the 2nd apron inhibitor these days. Because the Bucks have zero use for them as players without Giannis. So the deal needs to bring in 3rd team minimum to complete.

And no, I dont think those future asset are the difference between success and being "set back decades". Like you essentially said Giannis isnt worth that type of package. Speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You are making no sense whatsoever.

With Giannis committing to NY, Towns and OG (plus) is the offer. Being Bucks keep them for win-now purposes (since Bucks don’t own future) or forward them to other teams for youth/picks is Bucks choice.

Letting Giannis walk for nothing is decades set back.

Not sure where you are confused. But you surely are confused.

You cannot be serious. Towns/OG have a few years left of their peak play, how is not getting and keeping them affecting the franchise by decades??? Being a crap team with no picks versus a borderline play-in team legit makes zero difference out the franchise outlook as soon as the players leave.

And Towns can opt out and be a free agent in 2027, so you could literally be looking at like 1 or 2 years of play max. Again, "setting them back decades" is ridiculous hyperbole. Sure maybe if the Bucks actually got a package close to Giannis value, not the poo poo platter you're throwing out there.

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

[Wooderson]

You are making no sense whatsoever.

With Giannis committing to NY, Towns and OG (plus) is the offer. Being Bucks keep them for win-now purposes (since Bucks don’t own future) or forward them to other teams for youth/picks is Bucks choice.

Letting Giannis walk for nothing is decades set back.

Not sure where you are confused. But you surely are confused.

You cannot be serious. Towns/OG have a few years left of their peak play, how is not getting and keeping them affecting the franchise by decades??? Being a crap team with no picks versus a borderline play-in team legit makes zero difference out the franchise outlook as soon as the players leave.

And Towns can opt out and be a free agent in 2027, so you could literally be looking at like 1 or 2 years of play max. Again, "setting them back decades" is ridiculous hyperbole. Sure maybe if the Bucks actually got a package close to Giannis value, not the poo poo platter you're throwing out there.

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

[NoStatsGuy]

leon is too smart to sell the farm and the bucks wont sell for anything less (rightfully so). This is such a non story its crazy

[Wolveswin]

You cannot be serious. Towns/OG have a few years left of their peak play, how is not getting and keeping them affecting the franchise by decades??? Being a crap team with no picks versus a borderline play-in team legit makes zero difference out the franchise outlook as soon as the players leave.

And Towns can opt out and be a free agent in 2027, so you could literally be looking at like 1 or 2 years of play max. Again, "setting them back decades" is ridiculous hyperbole. Sure maybe if the Bucks actually got a package close to Giannis value, not the poo poo platter you're throwing out there.

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

You purposely wondered into a very thread about Giannis saying Knicks or bust. Truth will be in action. Bucks can sit on Giannis let him walk for nothing. Or wait to trade him next offseason and receive less than they would today. Good luck with that.

[pieguyxx]

You cannot be serious. Towns/OG have a few years left of their peak play, how is not getting and keeping them affecting the franchise by decades??? Being a crap team with no picks versus a borderline play-in team legit makes zero difference out the franchise outlook as soon as the players leave.

And Towns can opt out and be a free agent in 2027, so you could literally be looking at like 1 or 2 years of play max. Again, "setting them back decades" is ridiculous hyperbole. Sure maybe if the Bucks actually got a package close to Giannis value, not the poo poo platter you're throwing out there.

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

Bucks lose leverage by the day. In the end they have no real say. If Giannis says he's not going to re-up with his next team then teams wont trade for him or give up the farm. As it stands the report is Knicks. Everyone on this thread can say Sengun this, Stephon Castle that but at the end of the day its what Giannis wants. He has already said as such his camp wants him in NY and theres been some traction and interest on both ends (of Giannis and the Knicks). Bucks are just a middle man at this point because the writing is on the wall. It would be different if Giannis didnt already deliver a championship to the Bucks but he did already. So with so many reports I think hes gone. We've seen this so many times before. Shams is not going to put this out there for nothing.

[Wooderson]

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

You purposely wondered into a very thread about Giannis saying Knicks or bust. Truth will be in action. Bucks can sit on Giannis let him walk for nothing. Or wait to trade him next offseason and receive less than they would today. Good luck with that.

Uh except all the reporting now is saying its not just Knicks. Knicks and Bucks talked first but the Knicks offer wasn't close to what the Bucks wanted if you believe the reporting. Which is exactly my point, Knicks offer stinks.

Hence..."Shams Charania: Giannis Antetokounmpo and his agent Alex Saratsis have been “figuring out” which teams could find a way to acquire him if he were to request a trade mid-season".

For the nth times, its laughable to think missing out on KAT with 1/2 years on his deal and OG at $40M+ sets the franchise back decades. DECADES!

[Wooderson]

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

Bucks lose leverage by the day. In the end they have no real say. If Giannis says he's not going to re-up with his next team then teams wont trade for him or give up the farm. As it stands the report is Knicks. Everyone on this thread can say Sengun this, Stephon Castle that but at the end of the day its what Giannis wants. He has already said as such his camp wants him in NY and theres been some traction and interest on both ends (of Giannis and the Knicks). Bucks are just a middle man at this point because the writing is on the wall. It would be different if Giannis didnt already deliver a championship to the Bucks but he did already. So with so many reports I think hes gone. We've seen this so many times before. Shams is not going to put this out there for nothing.

No they dont lose much leverage because the Knicks would have to gut their team to sign Giannis in free agency. Knicks are highly incentived to make a trade if they want him.

And no, its not only Knicks from Giannis perspective. Shams reporting said they are considering other teams. So if you believe original Shams reporting you have to take that at face value as well.

Bucks and Knicks met first and Knicks offer clearly wasn't close to good enough, hence talks shut down. Which is exactly the point I've made in this thread.

[Wolveswin]

Why are you so confused. Letting Giannis walk for nothing (you know not trading him) is setting Bucks back for decades. Not the act of trading for Towns/OG plus (you know the Knicks package for Giannis).

If you don’t like Towns, forward him for assets. I mean he just was traded for Randle/DDV/1st and since shined brighter in NY spotlight deep into playoffs. He would be worth more to Bucks today if traded for assets.

Giannis is worth what another team is willing to pay. And these threats of Knicks or bust killed value for Bucks. It really limits teams offering and what they offer - being now seen as a flight risk. If Giannis is traded today at least he comes with two years control. If Bucks wait until next offseason, Giannis is worth even less.

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

Bucks lose leverage by the day. In the end they have no real say. If Giannis says he's not going to re-up with his next team then teams wont trade for him or give up the farm. As it stands the report is Knicks. Everyone on this thread can say Sengun this, Stephon Castle that but at the end of the day its what Giannis wants. He has already said as such his camp wants him in NY and theres been some traction and interest on both ends (of Giannis and the Knicks). Bucks are just a middle man at this point because the writing is on the wall. It would be different if Giannis didnt already deliver a championship to the Bucks but he did already. So with so many reports I think hes gone. We've seen this so many times before. Shams is not going to put this out there for nothing.

This guy gets it.

Teams would have to evaluate their risk when trading for Giannis. Per this very thread, their risk is greater today with Giannis having Big Apple dreams. How real those dreams are for team buying (trading assets) for Giannis services is for them to determine - not Bucks. Today Giannis’ services comes with 2x years guaranteed. Anything after is a highly depreciated asset.

Would teams today with two years Giannis control top Towns/OG+ offer from Knicks? Maybe. Some team(s) probably thinks they can convince Giannis to stay with them. But the offers of blue chip prospects has dried up from the majority of teams (like Rockets or Spurs or Cavs).

[Wolveswin]

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

You purposely wondered into a very thread about Giannis saying Knicks or bust. Truth will be in action. Bucks can sit on Giannis let him walk for nothing. Or wait to trade him next offseason and receive less than they would today. Good luck with that.

Uh except all the reporting now is saying its not just Knicks. Knicks and Bucks talked first but the Knicks offer wasn't close to what the Bucks wanted if you believe the reporting. Which is exactly my point, Knicks offer stinks.

Hence..."Shams Charania: Giannis Antetokounmpo and his agent Alex Saratsis have been “figuring out” which teams could find a way to acquire him if he were to request a trade mid-season".

For the nth times, its laughable to think missing out on KAT with 1/2 years on his deal and OG at $40M+ sets the franchise back decades. DECADES!

If Towns/OG+ is best offer Bucks have - and choose nothing instead - that action sets Bucks back for decades. Imagine Giannis walking and Bucks hand delivering other franchises top 3 picks for like next 4 years post Giannis - and STILL not being able to tank for a blue chipper. ‘But but we would have cap space’. Yes, because premium free agents are flocking to play in Milwaukee for a roster void of any talent whatsoever.

I get you aren’t high on Towns and OG. You know what Towns just was traded for in real world - and is worth more today than at that time. That is your poor evaluations lens you are looking through. Not reality.

[pieguyxx]

Post where it was concretely stated it's Knicks or bust.

Bucks dont need find a 3rd team for KAT/OG, it's on Knicks to do that and facilitate something appealing to the Bucks. (Which is why I asked you to come up with offers and crickets). Because KAT/OG do nothing for the Bucks future.

Bucks lose leverage by the day. In the end they have no real say. If Giannis says he's not going to re-up with his next team then teams wont trade for him or give up the farm. As it stands the report is Knicks. Everyone on this thread can say Sengun this, Stephon Castle that but at the end of the day its what Giannis wants. He has already said as such his camp wants him in NY and theres been some traction and interest on both ends (of Giannis and the Knicks). Bucks are just a middle man at this point because the writing is on the wall. It would be different if Giannis didnt already deliver a championship to the Bucks but he did already. So with so many reports I think hes gone. We've seen this so many times before. Shams is not going to put this out there for nothing.

No they dont lose much leverage because the Knicks would have to gut their team to sign Giannis in free agency. Knicks are highly incentived to make a trade if they want him.

And no, its not only Knicks from Giannis perspective. Shams reporting said they are considering other teams. So if you believe original Shams reporting you have to take that at face value as well.

Bucks and Knicks met first and Knicks offer clearly wasn't close to good enough, hence talks shut down. Which is exactly the point I've made in this thread.

Giannis is not reaching free agency, so lets put that to rest. For one he is not leaving $ on the table with extension that comes with either the Bucks or through trade. He and his camp would raise hell before it comes to that. You have to read between the lines. In the report he says he reserves the right to change his mind in "6 or 7 months". Thats past the trade deadline and before when hes eligible to sign that extension. Meaning he will give the Bucks a punchers chance to make the ECF but knows its next to impossible. A Giannis deal will get done next offseason and he will sign an extension with his next team. Now exactly who, well theres a lot of variables over the season but as it stands right now the report says Knicks.

The reason this deal or any deal isnt done right now is simple. The Bucks arent incentivized to do a deal because Giannis is their money maker. With 2 years of control they can take a full season to get all the jerseys and tickets out of him and hope the team is good enough to compete for a championship in a last ditch effort because when he becomes extension eligible he likely retires with the team that signs him with that deal.

From the Knicks perspective they have a very good team already and the favorites in the East, no reason for them to give their best offer when they know Bucks arent serious.

From Giannis camp perspective this is just setting up a soft landing for the Bucks org and Bucks fans that he is serious about leaving and removing some of the shock of when it does happen.

[MrGoat]

I don't buy this report. Especially because it's coming from Shams. He's been trying to push Giannis out of Milwaukee in his mind for years now

[Wolveswin]

Bucks lose leverage by the day. In the end they have no real say. If Giannis says he's not going to re-up with his next team then teams wont trade for him or give up the farm. As it stands the report is Knicks. Everyone on this thread can say Sengun this, Stephon Castle that but at the end of the day its what Giannis wants. He has already said as such his camp wants him in NY and theres been some traction and interest on both ends (of Giannis and the Knicks). Bucks are just a middle man at this point because the writing is on the wall. It would be different if Giannis didnt already deliver a championship to the Bucks but he did already. So with so many reports I think hes gone. We've seen this so many times before. Shams is not going to put this out there for nothing.

No they dont lose much leverage because the Knicks would have to gut their team to sign Giannis in free agency. Knicks are highly incentived to make a trade if they want him.

And no, its not only Knicks from Giannis perspective. Shams reporting said they are considering other teams. So if you believe original Shams reporting you have to take that at face value as well.

Bucks and Knicks met first and Knicks offer clearly wasn't close to good enough, hence talks shut down. Which is exactly the point I've made in this thread.

Giannis is not reaching free agency, so lets put that to rest. For one he is not leaving $ on the table with extension that comes with either the Bucks or through trade. He and his camp would raise hell before it comes to that. You have to read between the lines. In the report he says he reserves the right to change his mind in "6 or 7 months". Thats past the trade deadline and before when hes eligible to sign that extension. Meaning he will give the Bucks a punchers chance to make the ECF but knows its next to impossible. A Giannis deal will get done next offseason and he will sign an extension with his next team. Now exactly who, well theres a lot of variables over the season but as it stands right now the report says Knicks.

The reason this deal or any deal isnt done right now is simple. The Bucks arent incentivized to do a deal because Giannis is their money maker. With 2 years of control they can take a full season to get all the jerseys and tickets out of him and hope the team is good enough to compete for a championship in a last ditch effort because when he becomes extension eligible he likely retires with the team that signs him with that deal.

From the Knicks perspective they have a very good team already and the favorites in the East, no reason for them to give their best offer when they know Bucks arent serious.

From Giannis camp perspective this is just setting up a soft landing for the Bucks org and Bucks fans that he is serious about leaving and removing some of the shock of when it does happen.

I think if Bucks wait a season, the Towns/OG+ offer is still on table for Giannis. Bucks lose some value if they forward Towns to a 3rd team with his one less year control (unless extension signed prior).

2026 offseason:
Towns/OG any and all youth/picks Knicks have
FOR
Giannis/Kuzma

Bucks decide if they want to forward Towns to 3rd team for assets - based on offers I guess.

[giannis and 1]

that's not how it works anymore. if giannis wants ny, he will get ny.

ultimately, it won't be fair value. figure it's a deal involving kat and parts for giannis.

Nope. Bucks have zero interest in KAT. It would be Brunson, OG, Bridges, picks

Considering Giannis would be coming to play with Brunson, Bucks wouldn’t get him. And no team would give up significant pieces without getting the reassurance he’s going to re-up. KAT + other pieces might be the best they can get.

Then Giannis is not going to be playing for the New York Knicks.

[Moose]

Nope. Bucks have zero interest in KAT. It would be Brunson, OG, Bridges, picks

Considering Giannis would be coming to play with Brunson, Bucks wouldn’t get him. And no team would give up significant pieces without getting the reassurance he’s going to re-up. KAT + other pieces might be the best they can get.

Then Giannis is not going to be playing for the New York Knicks.

Odds are this trade doesn't happen, but you aren't the front office and you know this isn't always how it works.

Getting a player like KAT and another quality starter allows them to sell a dream, jerseys, and tickets.

[Wooderson]

You purposely wondered into a very thread about Giannis saying Knicks or bust. Truth will be in action. Bucks can sit on Giannis let him walk for nothing. Or wait to trade him next offseason and receive less than they would today. Good luck with that.

Uh except all the reporting now is saying its not just Knicks. Knicks and Bucks talked first but the Knicks offer wasn't close to what the Bucks wanted if you believe the reporting. Which is exactly my point, Knicks offer stinks.

Hence..."Shams Charania: Giannis Antetokounmpo and his agent Alex Saratsis have been “figuring out” which teams could find a way to acquire him if he were to request a trade mid-season".

For the nth times, its laughable to think missing out on KAT with 1/2 years on his deal and OG at $40M+ sets the franchise back decades. DECADES!

If Towns/OG+ is best offer Bucks have - and choose nothing instead - that action sets Bucks back for decades. Imagine Giannis walking and Bucks hand delivering other franchises top 3 picks for like next 4 years post Giannis - and STILL not being able to tank for a blue chipper. ‘But but we would have cap space’. Yes, because premium free agents are flocking to play in Milwaukee for a roster void of any talent whatsoever.

I get you aren’t high on Towns and OG. You know what Towns just was traded for in real world - and is worth more today than at that time. That is your poor evaluations lens you are looking through. Not reality.

Bolded likely happens regardless. Strongly disagree Towns is worth more than he was before. He can't play C and likely will only have one year left on his contract assuming it's a 2026 offseason deal. That's the point. Randle/Donte/crappy FRP for Towns was not some major haul. Towns probably gets one FRP and doubtful it's even Bucks FRP owned by ATL/PDX. OG might get one of those back. So again, Bucks are stuck in that situation either way. Unless you think Towns/OG get back most of the Bucks picks they owe out, they're screwed regardless. Bucks would be highly incentivized to hold out for a haul of those picks back or other likely high firsts/blue chip prospects. If not, ownership might be better off just getting an extra year of revenue from Giannis and hoping with additional assets like future FRPs that are available they can convince Giannis to stay by pulling off another Jrue/Dame trade. Even if the odds are low of that happing.

[Wooderson]

Considering Giannis would be coming to play with Brunson, Bucks wouldn’t get him. And no team would give up significant pieces without getting the reassurance he’s going to re-up. KAT + other pieces might be the best they can get.

Then Giannis is not going to be playing for the New York Knicks.

Odds are this trade doesn't happen, but you aren't the front office and you know this isn't always how it works.

Getting a player like KAT and another quality starter allows them to sell a dream, jerseys, and tickets.

A 30+ year old KAT and quality starter aren't going to fool fans into a "dream". If people think the Bucks situation is so dire that Giannis would be a fool not to leave, then no way in hell is that package selling a "dream" to fans as it would quickly be apparent the team sucks and is a borderline play-in team at best. Decent chance KAT bails anyway and exercises his player option in 2027 and Bucks are left with essentially nothing.