Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[The_Hater]

You definitely haven't.

Next time use google search first before hitting send. Your memory either sucks or is very selective

maybe volume but not nearly the same level of efficient shooting

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

[clyde21]

Next time use google search first before hitting send. Your memory either sucks or is very selective

maybe volume but not nearly the same level of efficient shooting

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

[NeoWarriors]

Also of note: Curry is doing this at the age of 33.

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[bovice]

history has already proven you comically wrong. this is flat earther level denial at this point.

come back to this discussion when curry spend the rest of his career being on a team thats fighting for a 7-8th seed playoff spot with no hopes of contention.

Steph can retire today and he's already a top15 player all time...ain't no one losing sleep over your opinion

in your opinion, lol and i won't be losing sleep over that

[xdrta+]

Next time use google search first before hitting send. Your memory either sucks or is very selective

maybe volume but not nearly the same level of efficient shooting

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

The original claim that started the Harden debate was in #1978, " I’ve seen harden do this in the regular season for long stretches throughout his career." Now it's something similar for one month, one time. So the claim was demonstrably false.

[Goose egg]

maybe volume but not nearly the same level of efficient shooting

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

The original claim that started the Harden debate was in #1978, " I’ve seen harden do this in the regular season for long stretches throughout his career." Now it's something similar for one month, one time. So the claim was demonstrably false.

oh puh-lease. i linked just the easiest one i remembered off the top of my head but harden goes through incredible stretches all the time. in the 2017-2018 season, the year before what i linked, harden put up the following pts/reb/assists in a 21 game span:

56/2/13
35/11/13
38/4/8
26/5/15
38/6/11
48/2/7
29/5/7
21/8/9
37/2/10
37/10/8
29/8/10
36/4/9
29/6/3
48/8/3
26/1/17
21/4/8
28/7/6
31/6/5
26/6/6
51/3/9
51/4/8

thats right in the span of 21 games harden had 3 50 point games, 2 40 pt games, and 5 35 pt games. almost 50% of games he scored 35 points while also putting up 8+ assists almost every time. steph's run is more impressive points wise but hes dished out 8 assists ONCE during this run.

people will discount passing like it doesnt matter but hardens run there is also more impressive to me than curry's current run. the playmaking from harden is nuts.

[ken6199]

maybe volume but not nearly the same level of efficient shooting

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

I would say shooting efficiency is a more precise term? Curry is by far the best shooter we've seen in NBA history, no one comes even close to his shooting efficiency. Not Harden, not Allen, not Reggie, not Kerr himself. He shoots 3s wide open with 5 hands in his face pretty much the same way lol. It's unfair to pull Harden or anyone into this comparison.

Re Harden, he was averaging 40ppg while shooting above 40% for a month or two. He averaged 37% that whole season. It wasn't like he was jacking up Melo type volume shots. Another key difference is Harden was doing all these while having a whopping 40%+ AST rate. He had one season over 50% AST rate while Curry is floating around 31% his entire career. It was Curry's off ball threat combined with team movement that was creating opportunities for teammates, but Harden literally had to do everything by himself to spoon feed bunnies and wide opens 3s. He never had a teammate like Draymond Green who distributes, and the years he finally had one, they either staggered their minutes or had them both ISO to death.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

[The_Hater]

maybe volume but not nearly the same level of efficient shooting

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

And Harden’s volume and the length of his streak were on different levels than this.

I’m honestly not sure what you’re trying to argue here?

[clyde21]

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

yup, agreed

[TinmanZBoy]

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

I would say shooting efficiency is a more precise term? Curry is by far the best shooter we've seen in NBA history, no one comes even close to his shooting efficiency. Not Harden, not Allen, not Reggie, not Kerr himself. He shoots 3s wide open with 5 hands in his face pretty much the same way lol. It's unfair to pull Harden or anyone into this comparison.

Re Harden, he was averaging 40ppg while shooting above 40% for a month or two. He averaged 37% that whole season. It wasn't like he was jacking up Melo type volume shots. Another key difference is Harden was doing all these while having a whopping 40%+ AST rate. He had one season over 50% AST rate while Curry is floating around 31% his entire career. It was Curry's off ball threat combined with team movement that was creating opportunities for teammates, but Harden literally had to do everything by himself to spoon feed bunnies and wide opens 3s. He never had a teammate like Draymond Green who distributes, and the years he finally had one, they either staggered their minutes or had them both ISO to death.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

To be honest I think Draymond is almost no use to Harden... the setting for Harden was perfect in Houston, a roller in Clint, three shooters camping outside, let Harden do what he is at best, maximizing his value...
I am curious to know how Curry would be used under Mike D’antoni, who is the dream coach of any PG, who would scheme everything around his PG and is a genius on it... not sure if Stephen would produce at the same level as Harden, but it should not be far off...

[The_Hater]

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

I would say shooting efficiency is a more precise term? Curry is by far the best shooter we've seen in NBA history, no one comes even close to his shooting efficiency. Not Harden, not Allen, not Reggie, not Kerr himself. He shoots 3s wide open with 5 hands in his face pretty much the same way lol. It's unfair to pull Harden or anyone into this comparison.

Re Harden, he was averaging 40ppg while shooting above 40% for a month or two. He averaged 37% that whole season. It wasn't like he was jacking up Melo type volume shots. Another key difference is Harden was doing all these while having a whopping 40%+ AST rate. He had one season over 50% AST rate while Curry is floating around 31% his entire career. It was Curry's off ball threat combined with team movement that was creating opportunities for teammates, but Harden literally had to do everything by himself to spoon feed bunnies and wide opens 3s. He never had a teammate like Draymond Green who distributes, and the years he finally had one, they either staggered their minutes or had them both ISO to death.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

To be honest I think Draymond is almost no use to Harden... the setting for Harden was perfect in Houston, a roller in Clint, three shooters camping outside, let Harden do what he is at best, maximizing his value...
I am curious to know how Curry would be used under Mike D’antoni, who is the dream coach of any PG, who would scheme everything around his PG and is a genius on it... not sure if Stephen would produce at the same level as Harden, but it should not be far off...

Draymond’s elite passing is useful to any player, especially players who can shoot. Just because Harden monopolized the ball in Houston’s offense doesn’t mean getting open shots off ball aren’t useful. He’s already playing a much different style in Brooklyn

[Pharmcat]

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

I would say shooting efficiency is a more precise term? Curry is by far the best shooter we've seen in NBA history, no one comes even close to his shooting efficiency. Not Harden, not Allen, not Reggie, not Kerr himself. He shoots 3s wide open with 5 hands in his face pretty much the same way lol. It's unfair to pull Harden or anyone into this comparison.

Re Harden, he was averaging 40ppg while shooting above 40% for a month or two. He averaged 37% that whole season. It wasn't like he was jacking up Melo type volume shots. Another key difference is Harden was doing all these while having a whopping 40%+ AST rate. He had one season over 50% AST rate while Curry is floating around 31% his entire career. It was Curry's off ball threat combined with team movement that was creating opportunities for teammates, but Harden literally had to do everything by himself to spoon feed bunnies and wide opens 3s. He never had a teammate like Draymond Green who distributes, and the years he finally had one, they either staggered their minutes or had them both ISO to death.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

Watch on YouTube

[The_Hater]

Just like everything you’ve ever posted on realgm, this will almost surely age just as poorly. And of course your timing here adds some comic relief to your post.

You have a knack my friend.

that claim is not false, we haven't. we have never seen this level of explosive scoring on this high efficiency. i'm not really sure what you are trying to argue here honestly.

no one is saying what Harden didn't do wasn't special, but the efficiency here is on a different level.

I would say shooting efficiency is a more precise term? Curry is by far the best shooter we've seen in NBA history, no one comes even close to his shooting efficiency. Not Harden, not Allen, not Reggie, not Kerr himself. He shoots 3s wide open with 5 hands in his face pretty much the same way lol. It's unfair to pull Harden or anyone into this comparison.

Re Harden, he was averaging 40ppg while shooting above 40% for a month or two. He averaged 37% that whole season. It wasn't like he was jacking up Melo type volume shots. Another key difference is Harden was doing all these while having a whopping 40%+ AST rate. He had one season over 50% AST rate while Curry is floating around 31% his entire career. It was Curry's off ball threat combined with team movement that was creating opportunities for teammates, but Harden literally had to do everything by himself to spoon feed bunnies and wide opens 3s. He never had a teammate like Draymond Green who distributes, and the years he finally had one, they either staggered their minutes or had them both ISO to death.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

Watch on YouTube

[TinmanZBoy]

I would say shooting efficiency is a more precise term? Curry is by far the best shooter we've seen in NBA history, no one comes even close to his shooting efficiency. Not Harden, not Allen, not Reggie, not Kerr himself. He shoots 3s wide open with 5 hands in his face pretty much the same way lol. It's unfair to pull Harden or anyone into this comparison.

Re Harden, he was averaging 40ppg while shooting above 40% for a month or two. He averaged 37% that whole season. It wasn't like he was jacking up Melo type volume shots. Another key difference is Harden was doing all these while having a whopping 40%+ AST rate. He had one season over 50% AST rate while Curry is floating around 31% his entire career. It was Curry's off ball threat combined with team movement that was creating opportunities for teammates, but Harden literally had to do everything by himself to spoon feed bunnies and wide opens 3s. He never had a teammate like Draymond Green who distributes, and the years he finally had one, they either staggered their minutes or had them both ISO to death.

Let's just enjoy Curry's month of April and leave my guy Harden outta here pls They both had insane months in their own ways.

To be honest I think Draymond is almost no use to Harden... the setting for Harden was perfect in Houston, a roller in Clint, three shooters camping outside, let Harden do what he is at best, maximizing his value...
I am curious to know how Curry would be used under Mike D’antoni, who is the dream coach of any PG, who would scheme everything around his PG and is a genius on it... not sure if Stephen would produce at the same level as Harden, but it should not be far off...

Draymond’s elite passing is useful to any player, especially players who can shoot. Just because Harden monopolized the ball in Houston’s offense doesn’t mean getting open shots off ball aren’t useful. He’s already playing a much different style in Brooklyn

Houston does not run the motion offense Warriors run, Houston gave the ball to Harden every possession... Draymond can’t shoot outside, not a elite roller like Clint... so almost no use to Harden on offense, I am not saying he has no value to the team

[clyde21]

i can see where Pharm gets his takes from

[SFrush]

cant believe this thread is 98 pages long. most successful troll in realgm history

Indeed.

[ken6199]

Houston does not run the motion offense Warriors run, Houston gave the ball to Harden every possession... Draymond can’t shoot outside, not a elite roller like Clint... so almost no use to Harden on offense, I am not saying he has no value to the team

For Houston it was all about Harden-Clint one-two punch or Harden finds the open man in corner, with some occasional swing swing on the perimeter. 2 out of the 3 campers normally do not have the ability to put the ball on the floor to create more complicated actions.

With Draymond he gives you a whole new dimension to put the ball on the floor to further collapse the defense - likely would reduce Harden's mid range floaters which were not one of his most efficient plays. Draymond also would be elite in finding the open Clint or whip it to corners.

Oh, let's not start with what he can do in transition offense in MDA's system. To say MDA has no use of Draymond is not true.

[Marrrcuss]

I thought he alone changed basketball? Lol

Great takes guys! [/quote]

Ummm, why was i added?

If he ALONE changed basketball, he should be good being down only 1 player, right?

[Raps in 4]

Sure. They’re both incredible fears yet people have decided that they need to back their favourite player of the 2 and claim one is clearly better than the other. There is a 3rd answer here, both feats are incredible.

Regardless, I was only addressing the false claim that we’ve never seen something like this before when it happened just 2 seasons ago.

The original claim that started the Harden debate was in #1978, " I’ve seen harden do this in the regular season for long stretches throughout his career." Now it's something similar for one month, one time. So the claim was demonstrably false.

oh puh-lease. i linked just the easiest one i remembered off the top of my head but harden goes through incredible stretches all the time. in the 2017-2018 season, the year before what i linked, harden put up the following pts/reb/assists in a 21 game span:

56/2/13
35/11/13
38/4/8
26/5/15
38/6/11
48/2/7
29/5/7
21/8/9
37/2/10
37/10/8
29/8/10
36/4/9
29/6/3
48/8/3
26/1/17
21/4/8
28/7/6
31/6/5
26/6/6
51/3/9
51/4/8

thats right in the span of 21 games harden had 3 50 point games, 2 40 pt games, and 5 35 pt games. almost 50% of games he scored 35 points while also putting up 8+ assists almost every time. steph's run is more impressive points wise but hes dished out 8 assists ONCE during this run.

people will discount passing like it doesnt matter but hardens run there is also more impressive to me than curry's current run. the playmaking from harden is nuts.

Harden is a historically efficient player, yet his efficiency is nowhere near Curry's. That's what makes Curry special. He can put up these numbers on scoring efficiency that shouldn't be humanly possible.

[HiRez]

The original claim that started the Harden debate was in #1978, " I’ve seen harden do this in the regular season for long stretches throughout his career." Now it's something similar for one month, one time. So the claim was demonstrably false.

oh puh-lease. i linked just the easiest one i remembered off the top of my head but harden goes through incredible stretches all the time. in the 2017-2018 season, the year before what i linked, harden put up the following pts/reb/assists in a 21 game span:

56/2/13
35/11/13
38/4/8
26/5/15
38/6/11
48/2/7
29/5/7
21/8/9
37/2/10
37/10/8
29/8/10
36/4/9
29/6/3
48/8/3
26/1/17
21/4/8
28/7/6
31/6/5
26/6/6
51/3/9
51/4/8

thats right in the span of 21 games harden had 3 50 point games, 2 40 pt games, and 5 35 pt games. almost 50% of games he scored 35 points while also putting up 8+ assists almost every time. steph's run is more impressive points wise but hes dished out 8 assists ONCE during this run.

people will discount passing like it doesnt matter but hardens run there is also more impressive to me than curry's current run. the playmaking from harden is nuts.

Harden is a historically efficient player, yet his efficiency is nowhere near Curry's. That's what makes Curry special. He can put up these numbers on scoring efficiency that shouldn't be humanly possible.

Harden did shoot 41% from 3 over those games, which is very good, but also shot just 39% overall, which is terrible. And he had a better team around him than Steph does now (thus: more assists), so he wasn't doing it while constantly double and triple teamed.