WCQF | (4) LA Clippers vs Utah Jazz (5) | UTA 3-2

[bakesale]

My point is the Clippers have also been plagued with injury woes. So the what if game is pointless.

It wasn't the Jazz fans that started with the what if game, it was alebaba. I'm only responding to his silly what if game.

Naw Jazz fans have been pushing that Gobert theory all series. It's not logical. When guys go down, others step up. It's why adding a 30 ppg scorer to a good team doesn't mean the team is going to score 30 points more per game. Other guys will have reduced or increased roles. Same concept here. If Gobert was healthy all along, would Joe Johnson have dominated and got on a roll? Would Hayward have went to the basket as much? Too many variables to play the hypothetical game.

Well I didn't push that theory, so you're wasting your time on the wrong fan.

[Nate505]

I can't speak for all Jazz fans, but I'd be quite satisfied getting outclassed by the Warriors in the 2nd round. Just making the 2nd round is a huge achievement for this squad. I hope we get there.

And if we get pounded once there, so be it. We won't be the first nor the last team that tyhe Warriors pound in the playoffs.

Yeah, if the Jazz can get to the 2nd round they are playing with house money at that point. Granted, I don't want to see them get wiped out but whatever, getting to the 2nd round was the realistic goal of this season IMO.

[OkcSinceSGA]

It wasn't the Jazz fans that started with the what if game, it was alebaba. I'm only responding to his silly what if game.

Naw Jazz fans have been pushing that Gobert theory all series. It's not logical. When guys go down, others step up. It's why adding a 30 ppg scorer to a good team doesn't mean the team is going to score 30 points more per game. Other guys will have reduced or increased roles. Same concept here. If Gobert was healthy all along, would Joe Johnson have dominated and got on a roll? Would Hayward have went to the basket as much? Too many variables to play the hypothetical game.

Well I didn't push that theory, so you're wasting your time on the wrong fan.

No, you're defending them. So in that sense I'm talking to the right person.

[IggyStardust]

Serious question? If they secured the ball and scored either a two or three, they would have given themselves a chance at making it a one possession game.

chris paul, with 14 seconds left, shooting his second of two free throws, in a 4 point game, just sank the second.

maybe you could explain to him basketball strategy?

lol, someone is very hung up on this. I didn't watch the Jazz-Clippers game, but as I said before I was explaining the rational [sic] to you. I never said it was the uniform choice. Fairly obvious different teams/coaches/players will play that differently. Seems kind of dumb from the Clippers tbh, since they had no timeouts and didn't have time to get into a back and forth. But Chris Paul can never be wrong. Good call.

it just provided a beautiful and timely counter example. its not resting on the premise that 'chris paul can never be wrong'-- its a piece of corroborating data.

but you could be right. teams could be playing suboptimally. i hope you try your strategy at the youth club level. maybe you can try it along with ranadive's cherry pickers.

[JoeyLightYears]

Paul only tied up Hayward after fouling him from behind.

Looked to me that the refs called an awfully quick foul when no one had possession of the ball. Usually they let them get away with contact there, especially at the end of a close game. I don't care about either of these teams so I feel like I'm pretty unbiased here.

[Shock Defeat]

LAC would be much better if they traded Blake Griffin for another player. He's too injury prone and too unreliable in big moments. I don't feel like they miss him that much while he's injured.

[JoeyLightYears]

Hopefully my Dubs can snag CP3 this offseason and play him in the Ian Clark role. ian has been pretty bad for us.. he only takes 2 threes a game and that's a career high!

[OkcSinceSGA]

LAC would be much better if they traded Blake Griffin for another player. He's too injury prone and too unreliable in big moments. I don't feel like they miss him that much while he's injured.

I used to think otherwise but this season kinda opened my eyes to this. Don't get me wrong. WHEN healthy he's still a top 10 caliber guy who's supremely talented. But he's just a bad fit and can't stay healthy for the life of him.

[JoeyLightYears]

LAC would be much better if they traded Blake Griffin for another player. He's too injury prone and too unreliable in big moments. I don't feel like they miss him that much while he's injured.

i believe he is a free agent so he will probably sign with the Dubs for the minimum. Blake seems like the type of guy to take the "hardest road".

[MistyMountain20]

chris paul, with 14 seconds left, shooting his second of two free throws, in a 4 point game, just sank the second.

maybe you could explain to him basketball strategy?

lol, someone is very hung up on this. I didn't watch the Jazz-Clippers game, but as I said before I was explaining the rational [sic] to you. I never said it was the uniform choice. Fairly obvious different teams/coaches/players will play that differently. Seems kind of dumb from the Clippers tbh, since they had no timeouts and didn't have time to get into a back and forth. But Chris Paul can never be wrong. Good call.

it just provided a beautiful and timely counter example. its not resting on the premise that 'chris paul can never be wrong'-- its a piece of corroborating data.

but you could be right. teams could be playing suboptimally. i hope you try your strategy at the youth club level. maybe you can try it along with ranadive's cherry pickers.

haha - that's not data. Those are two anecdotal incidences and your choosing to highlight the one you like better even though both teams lost.

And the funny thing is I never said I favored what the Thunder did, only explaining to you why they did which you seemed not to grasp.

[bakesale]

Naw Jazz fans have been pushing that Gobert theory all series. It's not logical. When guys go down, others step up. It's why adding a 30 ppg scorer to a good team doesn't mean the team is going to score 30 points more per game. Other guys will have reduced or increased roles. Same concept here. If Gobert was healthy all along, would Joe Johnson have dominated and got on a roll? Would Hayward have went to the basket as much? Too many variables to play the hypothetical game.

Well I didn't push that theory, so you're wasting your time on the wrong fan.

No, you're defending them. So in that sense I'm talking to the right person.

No I was backing up Daut when he mentioned we could've won more regular season games if we weren't injured all season. I don't think it's a stretch to think that.

I didn't say anything about Gobert in this series.

[xfactor]

Doubt it, either of these teams will get blown out by GSW

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I wouldn't doubt it, but Jazz/Warriors is going to feature some incredibly beautiful basketball. it's a must watch for hoop junkies for the offensive execution, in-game and game-to-game adjustments, and defensive schemes both teams will plan for.

Not going to get ahead of myself, but the gameplan for the Jazz in a hypothetical Warriors matchup would be to make it as ugly as possible lol. If beautiful basketball is being played in that series, the Jazz are in trouble. We are experts at mucking it up and making it a blow for blow slow paced grind.

Exactly correct. That's why the worst matchups for the Dubs are the Jazz, Grizzlies, and Cavs. Muck it up teams are the Warriors Kryptonite.

[Method28]

DJ for Jokic and Blake for PG13 anyone?! Huh, huh! Any takers?! Craw for a 3rd round pick?

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[OkcSinceSGA]

Honestly at this point id give Denver both bigs for just Jokic. Imagine CP3+Jokic?

[TheNewEra]

CP and DJ tried but the Jazz better overall team

[Else_where]

LAC would be much better if they traded Blake Griffin for another player. He's too injury prone and too unreliable in big moments. I don't feel like they miss him that much while he's injured.

Doc will probably trade him in 3 team trade and get Vujacic and Calderon

[OkcSinceSGA]

CP3 averaging 27 ppg, 6 rpg, 10 apg on 53/44/92 shooting percentages. Crazy good series for him.

[Method28]

Honestly at this point id give Denver both bigs for just Jokic. Imagine CP3+Jokic?

Hes super talented, but they still wouldnt win anything. If they cannot get back a team that could compete id rather them just go young and get picks or something. Ugh, this blows

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[OkcSinceSGA]

LAC would be much better if they traded Blake Griffin for another player. He's too injury prone and too unreliable in big moments. I don't feel like they miss him that much while he's injured.

Doc will probably trade him in 3 team trade and get Vujacic and Calderon

Then tell adoring media that what the team always lacked was outside shooting.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Honestly at this point id give Denver both bigs for just Jokic. Imagine CP3+Jokic?

Hes super talented, but they still wouldnt win anything. If they cannot get back a team that could compete id rather them just go young and get picks or something. Ugh, this blows

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With the potential dynasty Warriors+Lebron era that is how it goes. Nobody else is gonna have more than a miracle chance really.