ECSF: P1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers (3) | BOS 1-0

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Series Prediction

Celtics in 4
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3%
Celtics in 5
14
4%
Celtics in 6
35
11%
Celtics in 7
70
22%
76ers in 4
17
5%
76ers in 5
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17%
76ers in 6
108
33%
76ers in 7
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5%
 
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Re: ECSF: P1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers (3) | TIED 0-0 

Post#2061 » by L3GEND4RY » Tue May 1, 2018 4:57 am

SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:
downtownpie wrote:sixer shot terrible in their only loss to Miami. tonight they shot 19% from 3.

Boston made 12 more 3 pointers shooting 48%.

can Boston do that all series and will the sixers shoot that bad again?

no and no.



Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.


If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.


Are you serious.

?

We’re sticking to “ifs”, now? If Saric played “slightly” worse than what Hayward is capable of, I’m sure the Sixers win, too. But he didn’t. Because he’s not.

The Celtics are better coached, a much better defensive team, and are finding their stride(Rozier and Tatum especially). Let’s not rely on “ifs” or pretend as if the Sixers are on some elite level and the Celtics were lucky to win tonight. This, for the most part, is the same Celtics team that finished #2 in the east. Anybody that’s expecting this to end in 4 or 5 either way is in for a rude awakening.

The Celtics did what they needed to with Brown out - outshoot the Sixers. With Brown back, they won’t need to rely as heavily as they did on a shooting disparity.
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Re: ECSF: P1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers (3) | TIED 0-0 

Post#2062 » by LightTheBeam » Tue May 1, 2018 4:57 am

SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:
downtownpie wrote:sixer shot terrible in their only loss to Miami. tonight they shot 19% from 3.

Boston made 12 more 3 pointers shooting 48%.

can Boston do that all series and will the sixers shoot that bad again?

no and no.



Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.


If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.


Reddick/Saric/Covington/Ily shot a combined 2-18 from downtown. Rozier was 7-9 himself. When that changes game 2, it will look like a much different series.
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Post#2063 » by reload141 » Tue May 1, 2018 4:58 am

SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:
downtownpie wrote:sixer shot terrible in their only loss to Miami. tonight they shot 19% from 3.

Boston made 12 more 3 pointers shooting 48%.

can Boston do that all series and will the sixers shoot that bad again?

no and no.



Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.


If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.


Yes but you're playing against Boston's defense, which is rated 1st or 2nd? Especially on the 3pt line.

I fully expect a close game on Thursday btw, it's imperative we defend JJ, Reddick, Illy and reduce their 3pt shot making.
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Post#2064 » by FormerNBAScout » Tue May 1, 2018 5:00 am

Wow. Maybe the most embarrassing loss in Philadelphia sports history, and there's lots to choose from.

No Irving, Hayward, Brown, or Theis and they still get smoked.

I fully expect Philly to win game 2, and if they don't, then this will go down as the biggest fraud, overhyped team in NBA history.
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Post#2065 » by jfs1000d » Tue May 1, 2018 5:04 am

SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:
downtownpie wrote:sixer shot terrible in their only loss to Miami. tonight they shot 19% from 3.

Boston made 12 more 3 pointers shooting 48%.

can Boston do that all series and will the sixers shoot that bad again?

no and no.



Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.


If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.

Kind of sour grapes. Is it any different than the 18 3s the 76ers hit int game 1 against heat?

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Post#2066 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue May 1, 2018 5:08 am

supremacy wrote:
SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:

Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.


If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.


Are you serious.

?

We’re sticking to “ifs”, now? If Saric played “slightly” worse than what Hayward is capable of, I’m sure the Sixers win, too. But he didn’t. Because he’s not.

The Celtics are better coached, a much better defensive team, and are finding their stride(Rozier and Tatum especially). Let’s not rely on “ifs” or pretend as if the Sixers are on some elite level and the Celtics were lucky to win tonight. This, for the most part, is the same Celtics team that finished #2 in the east. Anybody that’s expecting this to end in 4 or 5 either way is in for a rude awakening.

The Celtics did what they needed to with Brown out - outshoot the Sixers. With Brown back, they won’t need to rely as heavily as they did on a shooting disparity.


It was an "if" that can be proven mathematically. Those are the best kinds of if's.
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Post#2067 » by reborn123 » Tue May 1, 2018 5:08 am

FormerNBAScout wrote:Wow. Maybe the most embarrassing loss in Philadelphia sports history, and there's lots to choose from.

No Irving, Hayward, Brown, or Theis and they still get smoked.

I fully expect Philly to win game 2, and if they don't, then this will go down as the biggest fraud, overhyped team in NBA history.

So many hot takes...Philly can lose the next game and still come out with a series win. All they need to do is nab homecourt. This game 1 is a big outlier and I don’t think the result will be the same the next game.
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Post#2068 » by SMTBSI » Tue May 1, 2018 5:09 am

SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:
downtownpie wrote:sixer shot terrible in their only loss to Miami. tonight they shot 19% from 3.

Boston made 12 more 3 pointers shooting 48%.

can Boston do that all series and will the sixers shoot that bad again?

no and no.



Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.

If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.

And if both teams did everything league average tonight, we'd be in the 7th OT with no end in sight.

I do believe that part of tonight was hot and cold shooting, and that not every game with follow the exact same script. But you can't just assume things will regress to where you want them to. Our defense is not league average. If there's a night where we both do actually shoot around league average from three, some other stat will probably be wildly divergent.
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Re: ECSF: P1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs Philadelphia 76ers (3) | TIED 0-0 

Post#2069 » by Squigglepuffin » Tue May 1, 2018 5:09 am

jonjames wrote:
mzepol wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I don't know where you read me say it will be a walk in the park.


Isn't saying the Sixers will win in 6 games insinuating just that? You seem pretty confident about it.


Sixers can win the series in 6 but it doesn't mean it'll be easy. All they have to do is win one road game and protect home court and they'll be good. Boston is also absolute garbage on the road as evidenced by the Bucks series losing all 3 games at Milwaukee so there's nothing wrong with what Arsenal said. I also think Sixers will win in 6.


I myself am a Celtics fan. Love my Celtics.

Being completely objective I think Philadelphia wins the series. I don't know in how many games. 6 seems fair. Tonight was an anomaly since you won't usually have Horford score that much (but he has been scoring a bunch as of late) or Rozier score that much (but close btw maybe 22 in a playoff game) and Philly couldn't hit a shot.

The first quarter both teams played bad. In saying that Jaylen Brown wasn't playing and the 76ers still lost. Not saying Brown is the lynch pin of the C's but he is our starting SG.

The problem for me is not Ben Simmons. The C's guard him well. It is Embiid. He's the best player on the 76ers and imo a future MVP. If he goes down Celtics win no problem, but the C's have an uphill battle to beat Philly as it is simply because of Embiid.

If he plays the way he played tonight, gets Baynes in foul trouble, and Philly shoot how they normally shoot they win. Coach Brad Stevens though is just an unbelievably good coach. He is the MVP of the Celtics.
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Post#2070 » by duppyy » Tue May 1, 2018 5:11 am

FormerNBAScout wrote:Wow. Maybe the most embarrassing loss in Philadelphia sports history, and there's lots to choose from.

No Irving, Hayward, Brown, or Theis and they still get smoked.

I fully expect Philly to win game 2, and if they don't, then this will go down as the biggest fraud, overhyped team in NBA history.


Calm down bro.

Our raptors getting swept by a lower seed were the bigger frauds.
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Post#2071 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue May 1, 2018 5:13 am

reload141 wrote:Yes but you're playing against Boston's defense, which is rated 1st or 2nd? Especially on the 3pt line.

I fully expect a close game on Thursday btw, it's imperative we defend JJ, Reddick, Illy and reduce their 3pt shot making.

SMTBSI wrote:
SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:
Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.

If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.

And if both teams did everything league average tonight, we'd be in the 7th OT with no end in sight.

I do believe that part of tonight was hot and cold shooting, and that not every game with follow the exact same script. But you can't just assume things will regress to where you want them to. Our defense is not league average. If there's a night where we both do actually shoot around league average from three, some other stat will probably be wildly divergent.


I'm not trying to diminish the win- you outplayed us tonight. I'm also not freaking out because I don't think those percentages are sustainable. Only time will tell.
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Post#2072 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue May 1, 2018 5:17 am

jfs1000d wrote:
SuperDario wrote:
supremacy wrote:

Boston is set to get back one of their best defenders and a 20ppg scorer. The Sixers had one job - steal an “easy” game one without Bostons starting SG. Not only do they lose, but they **** the bed. We won’t need to shoot 48% from downtown.


If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.

Kind of sour grapes. Is it any different than the 18 3s the 76ers hit int game 1 against heat?

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I'm not sure what you mean by that. We weren't able to sustain those percentages over the series. Thankfully we didn't need to after Embiid returned.
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Post#2073 » by SMTBSI » Tue May 1, 2018 5:18 am

SuperDario wrote:
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SuperDario wrote:If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.

And if both teams did everything league average tonight, we'd be in the 7th OT with no end in sight.

I do believe that part of tonight was hot and cold shooting, and that not every game with follow the exact same script. But you can't just assume things will regress to where you want them to. Our defense is not league average. If there's a night where we both do actually shoot around league average from three, some other stat will probably be wildly divergent.


I'm not trying to diminish the win- you outplayed us tonight. I'm also not freaking out because I don't think those percentages are sustainable. Only time will tell.

It's all good. I'm not all puffed up over the win either. There's a long way to go. You definitely shouldn't be freaking out.

I just see that, "If we'd just done this better, all else being equal, we would have won" thing a lot, and it seems to me that it's some kind of fallacy I don't know the name of. If you performed significantly better in some offensive measure, then all else was not equal - there's an implied difference in the corresponding measure of your opponent's defense.
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Post#2074 » by reload141 » Tue May 1, 2018 5:18 am

SuperDario wrote:
reload141 wrote:Yes but you're playing against Boston's defense, which is rated 1st or 2nd? Especially on the 3pt line.

I fully expect a close game on Thursday btw, it's imperative we defend JJ, Reddick, Illy and reduce their 3pt shot making.

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SuperDario wrote:If both teams shot league average from 3 tonight with all else being the same, the Sixers would have won by double digits.

And if both teams did everything league average tonight, we'd be in the 7th OT with no end in sight.

I do believe that part of tonight was hot and cold shooting, and that not every game with follow the exact same script. But you can't just assume things will regress to where you want them to. Our defense is not league average. If there's a night where we both do actually shoot around league average from three, some other stat will probably be wildly divergent.


I'm not trying to diminish the win- you outplayed us tonight. I'm also not freaking out because I don't think those percentages are sustainable. Only time will tell.


Said something similar about Middleton averaging 65% from the field & 60% from 3pt.... but he did.
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Post#2075 » by GeorgeMarcus » Tue May 1, 2018 5:33 am

SMTBSI wrote:
SuperDario wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:And if both teams did everything league average tonight, we'd be in the 7th OT with no end in sight.

I do believe that part of tonight was hot and cold shooting, and that not every game with follow the exact same script. But you can't just assume things will regress to where you want them to. Our defense is not league average. If there's a night where we both do actually shoot around league average from three, some other stat will probably be wildly divergent.


I'm not trying to diminish the win- you outplayed us tonight. I'm also not freaking out because I don't think those percentages are sustainable. Only time will tell.

It's all good. I'm not all puffed up over the win either. There's a long way to go. You definitely shouldn't be freaking out.

I just see that, "If we'd just done this better, all else being equal, we would have won" thing a lot, and it seems to me that it's some kind of fallacy I don't know the name of. If you performed significantly better in some offensive measure, then all else was not equal - there's an implied difference in the corresponding measure of your opponent's defense.


Fair enough. The "all else being the same" part is the problem because all else will never be the same. There are areas of the game we performed at an above average level and areas where Boston performed worse than average, so no it's not fair to isolate variables to prop up the Sixers. All that said, no team is going to win games on the wrong side of a 3pt disparity like that.
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Post#2076 » by Mik317 » Tue May 1, 2018 5:39 am

we looked like **** tonight.

maybe some "fans" will stop acting like the team has already won 20 chips now.
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Post#2077 » by Mister Ze » Tue May 1, 2018 5:42 am

Boston has elite perimeter defenders, possibly the best in the league. This is gonna be a closer series than I expected. I'm still sticking to Philly winning the series though. Boston would have to win game 2 to prove me wrong
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Post#2078 » by HeartBreakKid » Tue May 1, 2018 5:45 am

jfs1000d wrote:There is no one in the Sixers who can guard terry. They also won't be able to guard Tatum or Brown. Tatum destroyed whomever was on him.

Philly shot terribly, but I don't see the athleticism on the wings to guard boston.

Going to have to find a way to keep rozier out of paint and guard al on pick and pops.

When bucks did well, they were really physica! With rozier and hit them in every opportunity. Who does that on this 76ers team?

Also, al is criminally underrated. The guy does every single basketball skill 4 of 5 stars. Nothing great, everything very very good.


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Post#2079 » by Mylie10 » Tue May 1, 2018 5:48 am

Whatever happened in this game means nothing for the next one.

Philly only needs one of these two. Not saying they are going to get the next one, but I wouldn't put to much weight into what happened in this one.
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Post#2080 » by Mylie10 » Tue May 1, 2018 5:49 am

Who gets traded at on draft day, Rozier? Or Smart?
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