Houston Not Matching Chandler Parsons Offer Sheet

[baki]

I still think they could be a contender.

A contender for what? Playoffs? 1st round? WCF? Finals?

Worst off-season moves?

Haha! They already won that round.

Contenders as in they could win it all. I don't see why not with some good match ups in the playoffs and if Howard regains his dominant form and Harden improves a little. More likely, they will be contenders next year after FA next year... but strange things happen and they have elite talent at the rim and on the wing.

This is not really a prediction. Its more ... they lost Parsons... that sucks but they have Howard and Harden. Them two with role players can win 55+ imo and go deep in the playoffs.

[NightmanCometh]

So Hinkie is the smart one and not Morey?


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[TaylorMonkey]

Unless they do something more this Summer....I Houston in the 8th spot...after....
Spurs, Blazers, Thunder, Warriors, Mavs, Memphis, Clippers,

You can't lose Asik, Parsons, Lynn....and expect to do much. Not only will their defense suck....offense will too. Wow....they really F'ed it up.

Cliched, but... Houston, we have a problem.

Hotrocks, I noticed your And-1.

As someone who "gets it", my condolences to you and you alone.

[jmomcc]

A contender for what? Playoffs? 1st round? WCF? Finals?

Worst off-season moves?

Haha! They already won that round.

Contenders as in they could win it all. I don't see why not with some good match ups in the playoffs and if Howard regains his dominant form and Harden improves a little. More likely, they will be contenders next year after FA next year... but strange things happen and they have elite talent at the rim and on the wing.

This is not really a prediction. Its more ... they lost Parsons... that sucks but they have Howard and Harden. Them two with role players can win 55+ imo and go deep in the playoffs.

Not a prediction but possible under the right circumstances. That's why I said 'could be'. You know there's a difference, right?

[TaylorMonkey]

Yea, I'd agree that they would have been locks to be contenders if they acquired Bosh and kept Parsons. My opinion though is that they have an elite rim protector in Howard and a elite SG (offensively). That can be enough sometimes for a very deep playoff run with the right breaks. They did take a step back but I still like their core.

Except that with Howard and Harden, they weren't even close to a deep playoff run. They weren't even close to a deep 1st round run. Harden's playstyle with poor defense and over-reliance on flopping and free throws may not be conducive to playoff basketball. And now the team has less total assets and talent.

[spacemonkey]

Indeed. Even if Parsons hit UFA status next season, the Rox could still have offered more money and years than any other team could. Massive miscalculation on Morey's part.

So, what, Parsons shouldn't have signed the sheet? Can't blame a player for taking what's on the table. Parsons made no promises to Houston.

No, I'm saying it was a bad gamble by Morey not to pick up the option. As a Mav fan I'm glad he didn't, but even if Parsons was angry over another year of low pay, the Rox would have his Bird rights and the ability to offer him more years/money than anyone else after this season. They could also have worked an extension during the season IIRC. I don't get the logic behind it.

Sorry, I meant to quote the person you quoted.

[fart]

Can someone explain why he didn't match? Luxury tax reasons or what?

[Ginger Bean]

Parsons was not exactly caught off guard when he learned the Rockets had chosen not to match the Mavericks' offer sheet.

"I'm not surprised," Parsons said. "That's up to them. At the end of the day it's a business. They have to do what's best for their future moving forward. It's out of my control. That was on them."

"I viewed myself as an up and coming star in this league," Parsons said. "They were the ones that made the offer and look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority.

"I want a bigger role. (Mavericks owner) Mark Cuban and Coach (Rick) Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me and that's what I'll be in Dallas. I couldn't be more excited for the opportunity."

The culture Morey fosters filters down. Do players even give a damn when they leave the Rockets? I mean, they drafted Parsons and developed him. He wasn't just some journeyman.

[EntropyPR]

So let me get this.. the full team that Houston had last year lost in the 1st round to Portland (not a knock on Portland), they lost one of their key players..got a guy who only produces in a contract year to replace him..and some Houston fans expect the team to still be contenders?

[jmomcc]

Yea, I'd agree that they would have been locks to be contenders if they acquired Bosh and kept Parsons. My opinion though is that they have an elite rim protector in Howard and a elite SG (offensively). That can be enough sometimes for a very deep playoff run with the right breaks. They did take a step back but I still like their core.

Except that with Howard and Harden, they weren't even close to a deep playoff run. They weren't even close to a deep 1st round run. Harden's playstyle with poor defense and over-reliance on flopping and free throws may not be conducive to playoff basketball. And now the team has less total assets and talent.

Yea maybe, I don't like reacting to strongly to one series though. They have less talent but I think they still have the key type of talent you need. Rim Protector and wing scorer.

I don't know about Harden's style being playoff conducive or not but I hope he picks up his D this year and loses some weight. I personally don't watch a ton of Houston because they play ugly ball imo but I think they have an interesting talent set.

[TaylorMonkey]

Yea, I'd agree that they would have been locks to be contenders if they acquired Bosh and kept Parsons. My opinion though is that they have an elite rim protector in Howard and a elite SG (offensively). That can be enough sometimes for a very deep playoff run with the right breaks. They did take a step back but I still like their core.

Except that with Howard and Harden, they weren't even close to a deep playoff run. They weren't even close to a deep 1st round run. Harden's playstyle with poor defense and over-reliance on flopping and free throws may not be conducive to playoff basketball. And now the team has less total assets and talent.

Yea maybe, I don't like reacting to strongly to one series though. They have less talent but I think they still have the key type of talent you need. Rim Protector and wing scorer.

Thing is, you need hell of a lot more than that in the West.

[jmomcc]

So let me get this.. the full team that Houston had last year lost in the 1st round to Portland (not a knock on Portland), they lost one of their key players..got a guy who only produces in a contract year to replace him..and some Houston fans expect the team to still be contenders?

Lol .. I was saying that. I'm not a Houston supporter or a supporter of any team. I'm Irish and I only really support my local teams in anything (Gaelic Games mainly). I am a massive NBA fan but don't feel connections to teams I can't see in person. I did see a Toronto Raptors game last year and moving to Canada next year with the fiance so I can see myself falling for them. I love that they have really passionate fans also.

Anyway, my opinion on Houston goes like this and it is just conjecture - I would not bet money on this.

It's possible that they could improve enough to make up for their losses and get breaks in the playoffs. I don't think they were as bad as Portland made them look and I believe Howard is a game changing talent. That's it. I am not going to put the house that I do not own on that.

[EntropyPR]

So let me get this.. the full team that Houston had last year lost in the 1st round to Portland (not a knock on Portland), they lost one of their key players..got a guy who only produces in a contract year to replace him..and some Houston fans expect the team to still be contenders?

Lol .. I was saying that. I'm not a Houston supporter or a supporter of any team. I'm Irish and I only really support my local teams in anything (Gaelic Games mainly). I am a massive NBA fan but don't feel connections to teams I can't see in person. I did see a Toronto Raptors game last year and moving to Canada next year with the fiance so I can see myself falling for them. I love that they have really passionate fans also.

Anyway, my opinion on Houston goes like this and it is just conjecture - I would not bet money on this.

It's possible that they could improve enough to make up for their losses and get breaks in the playoffs. I don't think they were as bad as Portland made them look and I believe Howard is a game changing talent. That's it. I am not going to put the house that I do not own on that.

You do realize they still have their worst asset, Mchale, as the coach? if they change that, they may actually be better. The one move Houston needed to do to start the off season was to fire Mchale, yet for some weird reason he still has a job.

[jmomcc]

So let me get this.. the full team that Houston had last year lost in the 1st round to Portland (not a knock on Portland), they lost one of their key players..got a guy who only produces in a contract year to replace him..and some Houston fans expect the team to still be contenders?

Lol .. I was saying that. I'm not a Houston supporter or a supporter of any team. I'm Irish and I only really support my local teams in anything (Gaelic Games mainly). I am a massive NBA fan but don't feel connections to teams I can't see in person. I did see a Toronto Raptors game last year and moving to Canada next year with the fiance so I can see myself falling for them. I love that they have really passionate fans also.

Anyway, my opinion on Houston goes like this and it is just conjecture - I would not bet money on this.


It's possible that they could improve enough to make up for their losses and get breaks in the playoffs. I don't think they were as bad as Portland made them look and I believe Howard is a game changing talent. That's it. I am not going to put the house that I do not own on that.

You do realize they still have their worst asset, Mchale, as the coach? if they change that, they may actually be better. The one move Houston needed to do to start the off season was to fire Mchale, yet for some weird reason he still has a job.

I agree with that. I don't think he is a great coach.

My definition of contender is quite a bit broader than most too. There is a lot more luck and matchups in the playoffs than most give credit for. I think Dallas and Golden State are contenders too depending on the health of Bogut and Chandler.

[Dirkules]

So let me get this.. the full team that Houston had last year lost in the 1st round to Portland (not a knock on Portland), they lost one of their key players..got a guy who only produces in a contract year to replace him..and some Houston fans expect the team to still be contenders?

Parsons went from being a future cornerstone of the Rockets, fan favorite, a player who has great upside and "can do it all," to "overrated," has limited upside and can easily be replaced by Trevor Ariza, in a matter of days.

[postcall]

I am excited to see what Parsons can do with a real coach and system. I think his numbers may stay the same but his efficiency will increase as well as improved defense.

[Johnny Firpo]

I am excited to see what Parsons can do with a real coach and system. I think his numbers may stay the same but his efficiency will increase as well as improved defense.

He already had great efficiency. I fully expect his numbers to go up, Houston played with a neck breaking pace, but he'll be relied on more with us, Carlisle will draw plays for him, and he'll also play him at as many as 3 positions (although he just said he'll play him everywhere from 1 to 4, which is of course not true, but i can see three positions).

[The Sparest]

Morey and the Rox are taking a lot of heat, and rightfully so. But they still have time and assets to improve before the season starts, and I expect them to do so.

[baki]

Worst off-season moves?

Haha! They already won that round.

Contenders as in they could win it all. I don't see why not with some good match ups in the playoffs and if Howard regains his dominant form and Harden improves a little. More likely, they will be contenders next year after FA next year... but strange things happen and they have elite talent at the rim and on the wing.

This is not really a prediction. Its more ... they lost Parsons... that sucks but they have Howard and Harden. Them two with role players can win 55+ imo and go deep in the playoffs.

Not a prediction but possible under the right circumstances. That's why I said 'could be'. You know there's a difference, right?

Let me introduce you to this guy:

[baki]

I am excited to see what Parsons can do with a real coach and system. I think his numbers may stay the same but his efficiency will increase as well as improved defense.

He already had great efficiency. I fully expect his numbers to go up, Houston played with a neck breaking pace, but he'll be relied on more with us, Carlisle will draw plays for him, and he'll also play him at as many as 3 positions (although he just said he'll play him everywhere from 1 to 4, which is of course not true, but i can see three positions).

Parsons may be expected to be overworked and earning that salary, I'm also expecting a number of key games missed as a result of it. Other than that, he should no doubt do well at Dallas in replacement of Carter and Marion (both were getting old).