What are the Sixers doing?

[BullyKing]

We can be high on MCW and still agree that a 6-10 LAL pick this year (or 4-12 next) is good value for him.

Hinkie is playing for the superstar. MCW was never going to develop into one. He's playing the odds, that's okay from my perspective.

As an aside, anyone who thinks the Lakers with a 37 year old Kobe Bryant, limited and first year PF in Randle and a rookie are (A) going to be an attractive FA destination, or (B) make any type of noise whatsoever next year, are delusional.

Delusional like when Dragic told the Suns that LA is one of his preferred destinations, right?

LA is going to have a ridiculous amount of free salary to go after players this off season, and Mitch knows his pick is gone so there's no reason to tank. They're going to win games. Philly fans shouldn't get their hopes up dreaming of a top 10 pick next season.

The Lakers also had capspace last season and knew their pick this year might be gone and ended up with Jeremy Lin, Carlos Boozer, and resigning Jordan Hill and Swaggy P.

[Sweet J]

It's like Hinkie is playing 2K and he is waiting for that A grade potential draft to roll around. But each year it's only a B+, C etc so he chooses to go for more picks in the hope the next draft is the ONE.

[GallagherArt]

Question for 6ers fans and people who know the CBA, what was KJ McDaniels max salary for next year? is it still MLE money for 3 years, like when the Rockets signed Lin and Asik out of their rookie contracts?
I liked the MCW trade, but I just can't grasp what's the upside for the McDaniels trade, considering they'll have tons of capspace for years to come and guys like him is exactly what they set out to get in the draft.

I'm not privy to the CBA, so I'll leave that to somebody else. However I posted this earlier...

KJ was highly touted because of his flash of the pan offensive performance to begin the season, since the new year he's shooting 36.9%, 24% from deep and he can't dribble worth a damn. I would have loved to keep him personally because of his defensive savvy and more selfishly for his highlight plays, but similarly to most Sixers' trades, the outrage is exaggerated. He accepted the base salary that second rounders are entitled to and it's paying off for him, that's good for KJ, however he's not coveted nearly as much as an asset the moment he signs a contract which I'm assuming will be worth similarly to top pick's without the potential and polish that top picks usually have.

Possesses an interesting skill set, entertaining player to watch, I would have loved to keep him on a standard rookie contract, too bad as a Sixers' fan he gambled on himself (congrats to KJ for all the money he's going to earn).

Also, Isiah Canaan is being underrated as a prospect and the pick will be another high second rounder as well (either T'Wolves or Nuggets, so believe it's currently the 38th pick).

[Biased_Fan6425]

So you dont want to pay Mcdaniels but you want to pay MCgee.... Great....

[QRich3]

Question for 6ers fans and people who know the CBA, what was KJ McDaniels max salary for next year? is it still MLE money for 3 years, like when the Rockets signed Lin and Asik out of their rookie contracts?
I liked the MCW trade, but I just can't grasp what's the upside for the McDaniels trade, considering they'll have tons of capspace for years to come and guys like him is exactly what they set out to get in the draft.

Did you watch Canaan ball?

I have, he was killin us before he got injured in one game, then he barely played the next one. Still, KJ is the kind of raw prospect whose flaws are all the improvable parts (shooting, dribbling, poised defense) typical of a raw talented rookie. I'd have loved to get him knowing he'd be that cheap. If only we had any assets.

[GallagherArt]

So you dont want to pay Mcdaniels but you want to pay MCgee.... Great....

McGee came with a first round pick attached and could easily be flipped as a rim protecting big man on an expiring contract next season. KJ will be getting paid this off season and we got a prospect and pick back for him.

I don't love the return for KJ, however he's going to get paid and a second round pick loses it's luster if you lose the financial advantages of choosing that player in the second round.

[eagereyez]

We can be high on MCW and still agree that a 6-10 LAL pick this year (or 4-12 next) is good value for him.

Hinkie is playing for the superstar. MCW was never going to develop into one. He's playing the odds, that's okay from my perspective.

As an aside, anyone who thinks the Lakers with a 37 year old Kobe Bryant, limited and first year PF in Randle and a rookie are (A) going to be an attractive FA destination, or (B) make any type of noise whatsoever next year, are delusional.

Delusional like when Dragic told the Suns that LA is one of his preferred destinations, right?

LA is going to have a ridiculous amount of free salary to go after players this off season, and Mitch knows his pick is gone so there's no reason to tank. They're going to win games. Philly fans shouldn't get their hopes up dreaming of a top 10 pick next season.

The Lakers also had capspace last season and knew their pick this year might be gone and ended up with Jeremy Lin, Carlos Boozer, and resigning Jordan Hill and Swaggy P.

Lin and Boozer were brought in to command the tank once Kobe inevitably self-destructed. The tank was real from the start. Goran is proof that good players are still willing to sign in LA, and LA has the money to overpay. PHI getting a top 10 pick next season seems doubtful to me, but obviously it depends on who LA can sign.

[Pistons888]

What if all of these draft picks turn out to be MCW caliber?

[BullyKing]

Delusional like when Dragic told the Suns that LA is one of his preferred destinations, right?

LA is going to have a ridiculous amount of free salary to go after players this off season, and Mitch knows his pick is gone so there's no reason to tank. They're going to win games. Philly fans shouldn't get their hopes up dreaming of a top 10 pick next season.

The Lakers also had capspace last season and knew their pick this year might be gone and ended up with Jeremy Lin, Carlos Boozer, and resigning Jordan Hill and Swaggy P.

Lin and Boozer were brought in to command the tank once Kobe inevitably self-destructed. The tank was real from the start. Goran is proof that good players are still willing to sign in LA, and LA has the money to overpay. PHI getting a top 10 pick next season seems doubtful to me, but obviously it depends on who LA can sign.

Weren't the Lakers trying to get Carmelo last year? They only went to the tank plan once they struck out on all of the good free agents next year. It's nice like this is a good free agent class anyway so the Lakers either need to run the table on the good UFA or hope teams don't match RFAs (which seems unlikely given the rising cap).

[GallagherArt]

What if all of these draft picks turn out to be MCW caliber?

Well pending on what picks you're referring to that wouldn't be so bad. If it's among the top picks than that would be, although if it's later in the lottery than that would be quite good. If the second rounders are MCW caliber than look out.

[shangrila]

You are seriously underrating Isaah Canaan hes a future all-star

Apparently so.

[Pistons888]

What if all of these draft picks turn out to be MCW caliber?

Well pending on what picks you're referring to that wouldn't be too bad. If it's among the top picks than that would be bad, although if it's later in the lottery than good.

I'm just curious in general. I never see Sixers fans mention that the picks c they have built up could not pan out. I think that building through the draft is an important part of creating a successful team but with so much unknown it can't be the only way.

I'm not trying to be a hater. I think the Sixers rebuilding technique is interesting but it just seems so incredibly risky.

[GallagherArt]

I'm just curious in general. I never see Sixers fans mention that the picks c they have built up could not pan out. I think that building through the draft is an important part of creating a successful team but with so much unknown it can't be the only way.

I'm not trying to be a hater. I think the Sixers rebuilding technique is interesting but it just seems so incredibly risky.

Well then let me be the first: The picks could very well not pan out, I'm expecting a few not to actually, it's just the nature of the beast that is the draft. Although, I doubt we draft players with all of these picks, perhaps a few, however I'm expecting some to be bundled eventually.

[eagereyez]

The Lakers also had capspace last season and knew their pick this year might be gone and ended up with Jeremy Lin, Carlos Boozer, and resigning Jordan Hill and Swaggy P.

Lin and Boozer were brought in to command the tank once Kobe inevitably self-destructed. The tank was real from the start. Goran is proof that good players are still willing to sign in LA, and LA has the money to overpay. PHI getting a top 10 pick next season seems doubtful to me, but obviously it depends on who LA can sign.

Weren't the Lakers trying to get Carmelo last year? They only went to the tank plan once they struck out on all of the good free agents next year. It's nice like this is a good free agent class anyway so the Lakers either need to run the table on the good UFA or hope teams don't match RFAs (which seems unlikely given the rising cap).

Well it's not like they'll need to sign LeBron to push that pick out of the top 10. LA is going to be a better team next season regardless of who they get in FA. They can scrape together enough middling talent to make a decent push out of the bottom 10.

[LloydFree]

What if all of these draft picks turn out to be MCW caliber?

Then they didn't lose anything.

[RealRapsFan]

What if all of these draft picks turn out to be MCW caliber?

Well pending on what picks you're referring to that wouldn't be too bad. If it's among the top picks than that would be bad, although if it's later in the lottery than good.

I'm just curious in general. I never see Sixers fans mention that the picks c they have built up could not pan out. I think that building through the draft is an important part of creating a successful team but with so much unknown it can't be the only way.

I'm not trying to be a hater. I think the Sixers rebuilding technique is interesting but it just seems so incredibly risky.

ofcourse its risky.

But what "building technique" isn't?

How many teams have saved up tons of cap space to sign a star, only to find out they didn't get one? Or worse get stuck with a 2nd/3rd rate player on a massive contract?

How many teams have made trades for big name players just to watch them fall apart, and/or worse seen their great assets start to pay off elsewhere?

No matter what building plan a team has, the 'high reward, low risk' methods are so rare, and so random they should all be seen as pure luck. You quite literally need to just be in the right place (geographically and financially) and the right time. A team unable/unwilling to pay a James Harden is a once in a decade event. LeBron, Wade and Bosh all ganging up to create a championship team was a first time event (at least publically). Legit stars only get traded/or move when they demand trades (or tell the team they won't resign) and in doing so pick their destinations - so unless you are a destination hot spot, chances are you aren't going to be on that list.

The one amazing aspect of what Hinkie is doing, is the choice he's giving himself. Lots of picks to choose from, tons of cap space to use if or when he likes (for free agents or to absorb in trades), and a lot of high value assets (young players and picks) to trade if he likes. People view 76ers through the draft pick lens, and that may well be their main focus, but they avenues available to them are quite extensive. They may have the single cleanest roster/cba "balance sheet" in the NBA.

[ALL HAIL]

Trading Carter-Williams for the Lakers' pick was savvy.

Trading McDaniels was also savvy. When you're confident that you're losing a player, you should cash-in. No if ands or buts about it.

Trading for McGee was equivalent to a squirrel collecting nuts, but I wonder if there'll be any minutes for him next season to showcase him (before he's re-traded). Eventually, I think McGee isn't flipped.

[MiltownHawkeye]

The Sixers got something rather than receiving nothing when he gets over payed this summer. Not that embarrassing.

Oh yeah, I forgot that all 2nd round picks are unrestricted free agents after their rookie seasons.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I don't think logistically means what you think it means.

Nah, I meant "logistically." I think you think I'm confusing it with "logically", which I am not. Leading me to believe that you don't know what "logistically" means. Nice try though.

[Kingshadaine]

Delusional like when Dragic told the Suns that LA is one of his preferred destinations, right?

LA is going to have a ridiculous amount of free salary to go after players this off season, and Mitch knows his pick is gone so there's no reason to tank. They're going to win games. Philly fans shouldn't get their hopes up dreaming of a top 10 pick next season.

The Lakers also had capspace last season and knew their pick this year might be gone and ended up with Jeremy Lin, Carlos Boozer, and resigning Jordan Hill and Swaggy P.

Lin and Boozer were brought in to command the tank once Kobe inevitably self-destructed. The tank was real from the start. Goran is proof that good players are still willing to sign in LA, and LA has the money to overpay. PHI getting a top 10 pick next season seems doubtful to me, but obviously it depends on who LA can sign.[/quotes e]

You believe in a Kobe Bryant that has been injured the last few years, randle coming off injury, and just like last year they will sign stars in free agency, its just not happening

[sixerswillrule]

Trading Carter-Williams for the Lakers' pick was savvy.

Trading McDaniels was also savvy. When you're confident that you're losing a player, you should cash-in. No if ands or buts about it.

Trading for McGee was equivalent to a squirrel collecting nuts, but I wonder if there'll be any minutes for him next season to showcase him (before he's re-traded). Eventually, I think McGee isn't flipped.

I think it was more about the free first round pick than McGee himself.