Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision

[bondom34]

You can't guarantee anything about anyone other than yourself...

No, I can.

Sure you can... there are plenty of worthless guarantees in this world, what's one more?

No, I can safely guarantee it. I guarantee Russ didn't text a single GSW player during the conference finals.

[bondom34]

LeBrons mega team was bad without him? How do you know that? The few games he sat injured? Klove and LeBron joined the same time. Anyway I really don't want to get into these wars with fan boys. I gotta a magic game to go to tonight. I could care less about these 2 bought teams.

Mo Williams and a near 40 year old Shaq were the 2 best players on those early Cavs teams

I know that team sucked. Im referencing the CHAMPION Cavs from last year, the one that beat the 73-9 warrriors and set records. Guess I wasn't clear enough if people are really thinking I met the 09 Cavs lmao. Wow

In that case nvm, but that has nothing to do w/ the team Durant left. I thought the other poster was talking about the Cavs being a bad team w/o Lebron then

[Mr. E]

I don't want your shoulders.

Don't worry with all the draft picks boston will be a super power in the NBA soon enough.

You're a fool. Say something of value.

I would invite you to do the same.

Everyone involved in this exchange feel free to discuss the topic and not other posters.

[northoakland510]

How can you say he is not a competitor when tried with OKC for 9 seasons? It didn't work out so he moved on that's life.

I don't understand how you can say he tried for 9 seasons and it didn't work out. He had success and made it to the finals with OKC. Then he almost went to the finals last year. That is why people feel it was a weak move to join a team that you lost to in the western conference finals after blowing a 3-1 lead. Especially when he individually shot them out of a few games and was a turnover machine. It should be hard to get that point of view. Just like people should understand GSW fans are happy to have him and will defend him like they do all of their players.

Almost does not count. It doesn't matter why they lost, he tried with the team for 9 seasons and came up short. He played against a better team and lost.

[NeoWarriors]

Loving these KD hate threads. I feel like your tears only make him grow stronger.

[NxtGr8MagicCntr]

Mo Williams and a near 40 year old Shaq were the 2 best players on those early Cavs teams

I know that team sucked. Im referencing the CHAMPION Cavs from last year, the one that beat the 73-9 warrriors and set records. Guess I wasn't clear enough if people are really thinking I met the 09 Cavs lmao. Wow

In that case nvm, but that has nothing to do w/ the team Durant left. I thought the other poster was talking about the Cavs being a bad team w/o Lebron then

Yea no worries, I seemed to have been getting attacked left and right for a statement. Didn't mean to go at you. To clarify, I know Durant pulled a wuss move and bailed a good team. But LeBron joined a super team in Miami, then left that said team that made the finals for a team with limitless pockets (current Cavs) when he noticed Riley was getting cheap, didn't cater to him etc. Like I said Durant took the easy way out, and LeBron did it twice. I see it as very comparable situations as Durant left a good team for another.

LeBron took a slightly riskier move going back to the Cavs, but did he really?? He made the finals both years and will most likely win the east for the foreseeable future. Super stacked teams do that not just a single player. Yet LeBron continues to get credit as you can see by peoples reaction here. Durant is trying to fix his loser image and LeBron definitely did. All I'm saying.

[Devils Advocate]

How can you say he is not a competitor when tried with OKC for 9 seasons? It didn't work out so he moved on that's life.

I don't understand how you can say he tried for 9 seasons and it didn't work out. He had success and made it to the finals with OKC. Then he almost went to the finals last year. That is why people feel it was a weak move to join a team that you lost to in the western conference finals after blowing a 3-1 lead. Especially when he individually shot them out of a few games and was a turnover machine. It should be hard to get that point of view. Just like people should understand GSW fans are happy to have him and will defend him like they do all of their players.

He also went to the WCF four times and only made the Finals once. Last year's loss wasn't the first time the Thunder came up short. This whole "he joined the team that beat him" is ridiculous to me. The guy didn't just get interested in the Warriors last Spring. All reports were that Durant had interest in GSW going back to before GS won the title - before the title, before the 73 wins and before the WCF.

So he's supposed to be less interested because the team has gotten BETTER since he first got interested in them?

in comparison, LeBron/Bosh/Wade had the Big 3 plan years in advance. Had the Heat knocked the Cavs out of the playoffs before the FA year got there, do you think LeBron would have just changed his mind and said, "Nah, I'll stay in Cleveland. Not going to a team who beat me"?

Come on now

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

[bondom34]

I know that team sucked. Im referencing the CHAMPION Cavs from last year, the one that beat the 73-9 warrriors and set records. Guess I wasn't clear enough if people are really thinking I met the 09 Cavs lmao. Wow

In that case nvm, but that has nothing to do w/ the team Durant left. I thought the other poster was talking about the Cavs being a bad team w/o Lebron then

Yea no worries, I seemed to have been getting attacked left and right for a statement. Didn't mean to go at you. To clarify, I know Durant pulled a wuss move and bailed a good team. But LeBron joined a super team in Miami, then left that said team that made the finals for a team with limitless pockets (current Cavs) when he noticed Riley was getting cheap, didn't cater to him etc. Like I said Durant took the easy way out, and LeBron did it twice. I see it as very comparable situations as Durant left a good team for another.

LeBron took a slightly riskier move going back to the Cavs, but did he really?? He made the finals both years and will most likely win the east for the foreseeable future. Super stacked teams do that not just a single player. Yet LeBron continues to get credit as you can see by peoples reaction here. Durant is trying to fix his loser image and LeBron definitely did. All I'm saying.

Eh....Lebron was still the best player by a mile on all his teams. Durant isn't that. And Lebron left for a team that was in the lotto the year before. Durant didn't come close to that, he went to a team that was historic. There's literally no precedent for what just happened.

[uber_snotling]

Let's look at it the other way.

LeBron left the Heat. The Heat still had Bosh, Wade, Chalmers. They added Dragic, Deng, and Whiteside.
The team went from a 54 win Finals team to a team that won 37 games.

LeBron left the Cavs. The Cavs went from a 61 win team to a 19 win team.

LeBron was the best player on those teams. He made them great teams.

The current betting line in Las Vegas is for the Thunder without KD to win 45.5 games. That Thunder team is expected to make the playoffs without KD.

KD is a grown man and can make his own decisions, but we fans get to call him marshmallow soft.

[Devils Advocate]

I know that team sucked. Im referencing the CHAMPION Cavs from last year, the one that beat the 73-9 warrriors and set records. Guess I wasn't clear enough if people are really thinking I met the 09 Cavs lmao. Wow

In that case nvm, but that has nothing to do w/ the team Durant left. I thought the other poster was talking about the Cavs being a bad team w/o Lebron then

Yea no worries, I seemed to have been getting attacked left and right for a statement. Didn't mean to go at you. To clarify, I know Durant pulled a wuss move and bailed a good team. But LeBron joined a super team in Miami, then left that said team that made the finals for a team with limitless pockets (current Cavs) when he noticed Riley was getting cheap, didn't cater to him etc. Like I said Durant took the easy way out, and LeBron did it twice. I see it as very comparable situations as Durant left a good team for another.

LeBron took a slightly riskier move going back to the Cavs, but did he really?? He made the finals both years and will most likely win the east for the foreseeable future. Super stacked teams do that not just a single player. Yet LeBron continues to get credit as you can see by peoples reaction here. Durant is trying to fix his loser image and LeBron definitely did. All I'm saying.

Sorry didn't mean for my post to sound like an attack. Just a different opinion.

[NW]

I don't understand how you can say he tried for 9 seasons and it didn't work out. He had success and made it to the finals with OKC. Then he almost went to the finals last year. That is why people feel it was a weak move to join a team that you lost to in the western conference finals after blowing a 3-1 lead. Especially when he individually shot them out of a few games and was a turnover machine. It should be hard to get that point of view. Just like people should understand GSW fans are happy to have him and will defend him like they do all of their players.

He also went to the WCF four times and only made the Finals once. Last year's loss wasn't the first time the Thunder came up short. This whole "he joined the team that beat him" is ridiculous to me. The guy didn't just get interested in the Warriors last Spring. All reports were that Durant had interest in GSW going back to before GS won the title - before the title, before the 73 wins and before the WCF.

So he's supposed to be less interested because the team has gotten BETTER since he first got interested in them?

in comparison, LeBron/Bosh/Wade had the Big 3 plan years in advance. Had the Heat knocked the Cavs out of the playoffs before the FA year got there, do you think LeBron would have just changed his mind and said, "Nah, I'll stay in Cleveland. Not going to a team who beat me"?

Come on now

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

[Devils Advocate]

He also went to the WCF four times and only made the Finals once. Last year's loss wasn't the first time the Thunder came up short. This whole "he joined the team that beat him" is ridiculous to me. The guy didn't just get interested in the Warriors last Spring. All reports were that Durant had interest in GSW going back to before GS won the title - before the title, before the 73 wins and before the WCF.

So he's supposed to be less interested because the team has gotten BETTER since he first got interested in them?

in comparison, LeBron/Bosh/Wade had the Big 3 plan years in advance. Had the Heat knocked the Cavs out of the playoffs before the FA year got there, do you think LeBron would have just changed his mind and said, "Nah, I'll stay in Cleveland. Not going to a team who beat me"?

Come on now

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

So its Championship or bust? By your standards Golden State isn't even successfull...just move on

[KokoKaizer]

He also went to the WCF four times and only made the Finals once. Last year's loss wasn't the first time the Thunder came up short. This whole "he joined the team that beat him" is ridiculous to me. The guy didn't just get interested in the Warriors last Spring. All reports were that Durant had interest in GSW going back to before GS won the title - before the title, before the 73 wins and before the WCF.

So he's supposed to be less interested because the team has gotten BETTER since he first got interested in them?

in comparison, LeBron/Bosh/Wade had the Big 3 plan years in advance. Had the Heat knocked the Cavs out of the playoffs before the FA year got there, do you think LeBron would have just changed his mind and said, "Nah, I'll stay in Cleveland. Not going to a team who beat me"?

Come on now

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

That was just a dream (the conference finals) for the Warriors not that long ago...

[NW]

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

So its Championship or bust? By your standards Golden State isn't even successfull...just move on

For title contenders? Yes, that does tend to be how it works. Finals at least. Pretty sure, if you asked Warriors players if last year was a failure since they didn't win the title, they'd say yes.

[NW]

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

That was just a dream (the conference finals) for the Warriors not that long ago...

Fun thing about sports. As you improve, so do the standards and expectations

[nikster]

He also went to the WCF four times and only made the Finals once. Last year's loss wasn't the first time the Thunder came up short. This whole "he joined the team that beat him" is ridiculous to me. The guy didn't just get interested in the Warriors last Spring. All reports were that Durant had interest in GSW going back to before GS won the title - before the title, before the 73 wins and before the WCF.

So he's supposed to be less interested because the team has gotten BETTER since he first got interested in them?

in comparison, LeBron/Bosh/Wade had the Big 3 plan years in advance. Had the Heat knocked the Cavs out of the playoffs before the FA year got there, do you think LeBron would have just changed his mind and said, "Nah, I'll stay in Cleveland. Not going to a team who beat me"?

Come on now

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

well the question is why did they come up short? In Lebrons cases, when he came up short it was not because of lack of production, it was lack of talent (except the Finals loss to the Mavs). Durant lost to the warriors because he himself failed to produce (42%, 28% from 3, more turnovers than assists), not because of lack of talent. I dont think he was criticized enough for that performance

[blazeyo]

Let's not beat around the bush here. Curry is a top basketball player, Klay isn't. Lebron and Kyrie are a tier above Klay. To even things out a bit, you now have Curry and Durant, two top players versus two other top players in Lebron and Kyrie. It's the top players that win the finals, and now it has evened out.

What?!!! Klay Thompson is a way better player than Kyrie Irving. Up until the finals one might not know the difference between Kyrie and JR Smith.....and I'm talking JR Smith on the Knicks and Nuggets. Please let's stop with this Kyrie the superstar talk. He has one good series.

Thompson is a star player dude. Why can't people just give him credit. Hes the best defensive SG in the league and pretty much averages 30 the second Curry sits down.

I don't even care about this silly Durant bitch fest but Thompson is not so far below Curry in my opinion

Best defensive sg in the leagu1?! are you for real?
He takes on challenges on the defensive end but he gets roasted everytime.
Also, it seems like hand checking doesn't apply to him

[KokoKaizer]

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

That was just a dream (the conference finals) for the Warriors not that long ago...

Fun thing about sports. As you improve, so do the standards and expectations

Beware of the fall

[NW]

You are in such a rush to defend KD (and I pointed out I understand the need for OKC fans to do so) that you reinforced the point that I was trying to make to someone else, that KD had plenty of success in OKC. It wasn't as if he left a bad situation or team.

You also brought up Lebron for some reason and made up a hypothetical situation where the Heat beat the Cavs in the Playoffs. Who knows what LeBron would have done and if that even matters in this debate. We know what KD did and people are criticizing him for it. Relax, no matter who has what opinion your team is still the title favorite.

You call it success. A lot of folks view it as coming up short. No one plays for conference finals participant banners

well the question is why did they come up short? In Lebrons cases, when he came up short it was not because of lack of production, it was lack of talent (except the Finals loss to the Mavs). Durant lost to the warriors because he himself failed to produce (42%, 28% from 3, more turnovers than assists), not because of lack of talent. I dont think he was criticized enough for that performance

Laying it completely at KDs feet? I seem to remember Russ coming up short and making key turnovers in game 6 that put the game away

[NW]

That was just a dream (the conference finals) for the Warriors not that long ago...

Fun thing about sports. As you improve, so do the standards and expectations

Beware of the fall

Us Warriors fans have experienced decades of falling. Going to enjoy the rise for as long as it lasts