Trae Young: I'll be better than Luka Doncic in 5-10 years

[Ball4life32]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

Yeah not sure about that. Trae and Collins pickandroll is deadly.

[BudenFerry]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

and who put that starting lineup together?

That mess of a GM /owner situation that you have. Meanwhile, our owners are finally rock solid and our GM has found studs with the 19th pick the last 2 years.

So what gives you confidence that the Mavs front office will be able to surround Luka with talent better than ATL's will be able to for Trae?

[Ito]

Traeway !!

[King Ken]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

This is nonsense. How is Collins, a PF who Trae has more blocks than a better fit with Luka who can't cover space on defense, Luka close out speed is terrible and Luka is selfish a better fit with Collins? LUUUKA



Dude, both of these guys was passed over by 18 teams. Just last year most thought Collins was a Drew Gooden at best type. You really want to crap on Trae and it's starting to get on my nerves.

Barnes won a title with GS. Barnes has been a good player his entire career and he is a veteran so he knows what he is doing.

DAJ has been one of the 10 best centers in the last 8 years and goodness, he constantly is saving Doncic ass on defense. I mean damn man, give the man some damn respect. Not to mention he has a good bench and some role players as well.

We get it, as long as Luka is playing, its everyone fault but Luka and everyone on everyone other teams are better and would be Scottie Pippen with Luka. We all get it.

[XTraderXL]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

This is nonsense. How is Collins, a PF who Trae has more blocks than a better fit with Luka who can't cover space on defense, Luka close out speed is terrible and Luka is selfish a better fit with Collins? LUUUKA



Dude, both of these guys was passed over by 18 teams. Just last year most thought Collins was a Drew Gooden at best type. You really want to crap on Trae and it's starting to get on my nerves.

Barnes won a title with GS. Barnes has been a good player his entire career and he is a veteran so he knows what he is doing.

DAJ has been one of the 10 best centers in the last 8 years and goodness, he constantly is saving Doncic ass on defense. I mean damn man, give the man some damn respect. Not to mention he has a good bench and some role players as well.

We get it, as long as Luka is playing, its everyone fault but Luka and everyone on everyone other teams are better and would be Scottie Pippen with Luka. We get all it.

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[The_Hater]

And if doesn’t happen in 5 years. or 10 years, Trae should just triple down and say he’s going to be the better player in 20 years.

[I_Like_Dirt]

And if doesn’t happen in 5 years. or 10 years, Trae should just triple down and say he’s going to be the better player in 20 years.

I mean, it isn't an outrageous goal and he's play pretty damn well of late. If his 3 keeps falling as it has been since mid December then his game suddenly changes quite a bit. Rushing to judgement in a rookie season always strikes me as a rather ridiculous idea. Fox will never be half the player Donovan Mitchell will be...

[The_Hater]

And if doesn’t happen in 5 years. or 10 years, Trae should just triple down and say he’s going to be the better player in 20 years.

I mean, it isn't an outrageous goal and he's play pretty damn well of late. If his 3 keeps falling as it has been since mid December then his game suddenly changes quite a bit. Rushing to judgement in a rookie season always strikes me as a rather ridiculous idea. Fox will never be half the player Donovan Mitchell will be...

I think Young will be a good player and you can never blame a guy for being confident, that's what gets him through the slumps and the never-ending criticism from fans and media. But I would be utterly shocked if he ended up better than Doncic, who I think is going to be a special player.

[King Ken]

And if doesn’t happen in 5 years. or 10 years, Trae should just triple down and say he’s going to be the better player in 20 years.

I mean, it isn't an outrageous goal and he's play pretty damn well of late. If his 3 keeps falling as it has been since mid December then his game suddenly changes quite a bit. Rushing to judgement in a rookie season always strikes me as a rather ridiculous idea. Fox will never be half the player Donovan Mitchell will be...

I think Young will be a good player and you can never blame a guy for being confident, that's what gets him through the slumps and the never-ending criticism from fans and media. But I would be utterly shocked if he ended up better than Doncic, who I think is going to be a special player.

Prepare to be utterly shocked then.

[Edrees]

I'd say it's quite common for star players who are 5-10 year veterans to be better than whoever was the best rookie their rookie year. I think people are short sighted when they always assume the ROY will remain the best of his draft class, it doesn't always happen. In fact, it is less common for this to happen than for it not to happen. I noticed that players who come in NBA ready tend not to work on their game and improve over their career as much.

Over the last 20 years, I think the only players who were the best rookie and also remained the best player of their draft class through their prime was like Lebron...and AD? Maybe CP3? Maybe KD?

I think Doncic will be better but if Trae is better in 10 years it's not going to surprise me that much.

NBA players who shine early stay skilled for longer

That did nothing to contest was I was saying.

Dr Vaci added: “However, it is probable that other factors, such as physical ability, personality, motivation, or even genetic makeup, which may enable certain players to acquire knowledge and skill more quickly, may also affect this correlation.”

It's probable that other factors may overcome this.

Let's just look at the top 10 players in the nba and see who was the best rookie

Lebron - yes, was the best rookie
Curry - wasn't the best rookie, had bad injury issues his rookie year
Giannis, was never the best rookie
Kawhi - wasn't the best rookie
AD - Wasn't best rookie (Lilliard was better)
Harden -wasn't the best rookie
Westbrook - wasn't the best rookie
jokic - wasn't the best rookie
Durant - Yes, was the best rookie
Embiid - wasn't the best rookie
Jimmy Butler - wasn't the best rookie

Basically, only 2 out of top 10 players in the NBA currently were ever the best rookie. This is why I think people are short sighted, and always assuming whoever is the best rookie now will stay the best isn't always accurate. And I already said Doncic will probably be better than Trey despite this because of just how good Doncic is already, but just going by past experience,all I am saying is it won't be some crazy surprise if that's not what happens like people are making it out to be.

[Johnny Firpo]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

This is nonsense. How is Collins, a PF who Trae has more blocks than a better fit with Luka who can't cover space on defense, Luka close out speed is terrible and Luka is selfish a better fit with Collins? LUUUKA



Dude, both of these guys was passed over by 18 teams. Just last year most thought Collins was a Drew Gooden at best type. You really want to crap on Trae and it's starting to get on my nerves.

Barnes won a title with GS. Barnes has been a good player his entire career and he is a veteran so he knows what he is doing.

DAJ has been one of the 10 best centers in the last 8 years and goodness, he constantly is saving Doncic ass on defense. I mean damn man, give the man some damn respect. Not to mention he has a good bench and some role players as well.

We get it, as long as Luka is playing, its everyone fault but Luka and everyone on everyone other teams are better and would be Scottie Pippen with Luka. We all get it.

You are spouting a lot of nonsense, and you are more emotionally invested in this Luka vs Young thing than anyone on this board, any Luka fans in fact. It's impossible to have a normal discussion with you on this topic, sorry. I just realized this, so I will not take any attempt until I see you taking a step back, and become less emotional on this.

[BoardCrusher]

some Trae stans really getting emotional about this, way to lose your credibility, if you ever had any, keep going strong lol

[BudenFerry]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

I wanted to be the first to say CONGRATS Johnny! I legit can't wait to see Luka and Porgz together. Just hope he can stay healthy for yall.

Now if yall would be kind enough to give us like the 7th or 8th pick this year so we can both be off to great starts!

Just WOW. What a deal

[Johnny Firpo]

Just look at their current situations. Trae seems to have a much better relationship with his teammates than Luka. He also does a better job of improving those around him so far.

I can't agree with that, sorry. Collins would probably be an even better fit for Luka than he is for Young (Doncic is a significantly better pick&roll player), and Collins is actually a better fit than DeAndre. Same goes for Huerter, who is btw one of my favorite rookies. I would be ecstatic if we'd have him instead of Barnes. And this goes to King Ken more than it does to you, our starting lineup is a mess. It is literally the worst lineup in the league (statistically), with Luka having to play together with a bunch of ill-fitting pieces. An yet he has great advanced stats even with those anchors pulling him down. DSJ, Matthews and Barnes are not bad players, but they are terrible fits next to Luka, especially DSJ and Barnes. Matthews is actually a solid fit when he is playing within the system.

I think both are going to be great and should have players wanting to play for them.

I agree with this, and I'm rooting for Young, he is a very exciting young player.

I wanted to be the first to say CONGRATS Johnny! I legit can't wait to see Luka and Porgz together. Just hope he can stay healthy for yall.

Now if yall would be kind enough to give us like the 7th or 8th pick this year so we can both be off to great starts!

Just WOW. What a deal

Thanks man, I hope they'll work well together. They are my two favorite players, so every game will be exciting, and that is no small feat for a fan, even if you ignore everything else (long term success, comparisons, etc.). I know you feel the same way about Young, it's finally exciting for you guys to watch games, and we feel the same way about Luka, and will feel the same way about this duo.

[bradybunch]

He may not be a liar.

Oof.

[GrindCityHustle]

He has bits of the Mamba Mentality which is hard badge to get but he prob is going to lol.

[bradybunch]

Luka's durability may be a big reason why this is possible.

[Loaded_Hollows]

bradybunch used “Thread Bump”

It’s effective!

[Wolfgang630]

Why would this get bumped. Luka got his team to the 4th seed. He wasn’t fighting for a play in spot

[bradybunch]

Why would this get bumped. Luka got his team to the 4th seed. He wasn’t fighting for a play in spot

But his body gave out in the process.

Could be a growing concern moving forward.