Is Iggy a Hall of Famer

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Will Iguodola make the HOF?

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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#221 » by dho4ever » Mon May 20, 2019 6:05 pm

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Would Howard at his peak be a more effective defensive player than Iguodala is on Golden State? For comparison even a peak Boogie Cousins without injury I don't think is close to Iguodala in effectiveness on Golden State.


Sure but that doesn't change the fact that Dwight Howard was a top player in the league at sometime in his career and is deserving of the hall of fame.


I still find this to be the most insane thinking. Clear first ballot for a team killer with no meaningful skills...compared to a FMVP and critical defensive wing on a team that re-defined basketball. Losing in the finals is not a hall of fame achievement.

I know there's no criteria for the hall so people go by box score and awards, but this is totally crazy.


It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Feelings. Even just by going by that word "Fame", Dwight in his prime was the most famous center, triggering a huge free agency storm. However, you feel about him handling it, the Laker Debacle, and the fact that he never really learned how to play basketball on the offensive end is irrelevant.

Box Score (stats) and Awards have always been relevant.

If you compare the two careers, one is an obvious first ballot due to accolades (which the Hall has been consistent about).. the other one has played on a team that you feel very keen about.

I'm not a fan of Dwight, but someone who was pretty high on the MVP ladder in 2-3 seasosn that I can recall, won DPOTY 3 times, multiple all stars... blows Iguodala's career out of the ocean.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#222 » by Sulico » Mon May 20, 2019 6:07 pm

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Worthy - 7 time all-star, 2 time all-nba
Iggy - 1 time all-star, 0 time all-nba


Oh god, another popularity contests fan.
I'm sure you would like to change the NBA to figure skating format, where judges, or the fans, give each team a mark after game, and whoever got the best mark wins.


you're right, let's ignore the stats and accolades, your opinion means more.


Nothing to do with my opinion. Don't even like Iggy all that much.
Pure facts. Iggy played vital role in 3 championships, Worthy played vital role in 3 championships.
Worthy's role was more important. Iggy had longer career and had more succes as a leader and best player of a team.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#223 » by CS707 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:08 pm

I'm actually surprised this thread has even maintained. Proof people will argue about anything I guess.

BBall HOF, no. I'm borderline on whether he merits a jersey retirement even. I'd probably go yes because of nostalgia and how much he actually meant to this franchise but even that is pretty exclusive.
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Post#224 » by MrPerfect1 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:11 pm

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He is role player, he shouldn't get in.


A player who single handedly swings 3 NBA Championships should be in the HOF. Horry's impact on the NBA was 100x greater than Divac. Diva's biggest NBA accomplishment was being a solid starter on the Kings. Horry literally was deciding multiple Championships and changing legacies.


Divac, again, got in for what he did in international play to go along with NBA play. This is not the NBA hall of Fame but the BASKETBALL hall of fame. If this was just the NBA, Divac would not get in my opinion.

There have been a few players that have hit big shots in multiple championship games but would not be considered to be a hall of Famer, Steve Kerr is one I remember. There is more to being a hall of famer than finals shots.


Yes it is the BASKETBALL Hall of Fame. The NBA should have by far the biggest value or else it starts to become silly.

If someone dominates the D League and wins tons of titles there should they make the HOF? Should Marbury make the HOF for dominating in China? How about someone who dominates in High School and college and wins Medals in the Pan Am Games, U19, etc. All those are various Basketball leagues.

Kerr isn't in the same stratosphere of impact as Horry was. There is no role player that comes close to having the impact and deciding Championships like he did. Even when he was all but washed up he was deciding Championships when he got Stoudamire and Diaw suspended against the Spurs.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#225 » by clyde21 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:18 pm

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Oh god, another popularity contests fan.
I'm sure you would like to change the NBA to figure skating format, where judges, or the fans, give each team a mark after game, and whoever got the best mark wins.


you're right, let's ignore the stats and accolades, your opinion means more.


Nothing to do with my opinion. Don't even like Iggy all that much.
Pure facts. Iggy played vital role in 3 championships, Worthy played vital role in 3 championships.
Worthy's role was more important. Iggy had longer career and had more succes as a leader and best player of a team.


so did Shaun Livingston, should we throw him in the HoF too?
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#226 » by will » Mon May 20, 2019 6:21 pm

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you're right, let's ignore the stats and accolades, your opinion means more.


Nothing to do with my opinion. Don't even like Iggy all that much.
Pure facts. Iggy played vital role in 3 championships, Worthy played vital role in 3 championships.
Worthy's role was more important. Iggy had longer career and had more succes as a leader and best player of a team.


so did Shaun Livingston, should we throw him in the HoF too?


He doesn't have any numbers to warrant HOF consideration.

Pre-injury...was looking real exciting when he shared the backcourt with Sam I Am.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#227 » by clyde21 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:25 pm

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Nothing to do with my opinion. Don't even like Iggy all that much.
Pure facts. Iggy played vital role in 3 championships, Worthy played vital role in 3 championships.
Worthy's role was more important. Iggy had longer career and had more succes as a leader and best player of a team.


so did Shaun Livingston, should we throw him in the HoF too?


He doesn't have any numbers to warrant HOF consideration.

Pre-injury...was looking real exciting when he shared the backcourt with Sam I Am.


lol, and which #s warrant Iguodala's HoF induction? is it the 15 career PER? or maybe the .125 WS/48? or is it the 12/3/3 career stat line?
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#228 » by will » Mon May 20, 2019 6:28 pm

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so did Shaun Livingston, should we throw him in the HoF too?


He doesn't have any numbers to warrant HOF consideration.

Pre-injury...was looking real exciting when he shared the backcourt with Sam I Am.


lol, and which #s warrant Iguodala's HoF induction? is it the 15 career PER? or maybe the .125 WS/48? or is it the 12/3/3 career stat line?


Iggy averaging 12/5.1/4.4 for his career.

Keep in mind since he left Philly and played one unforgettable (No French, No Sway Lee) season in Denver...he basically sacrificed his offense to play a completely different role.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#229 » by will » Mon May 20, 2019 6:29 pm

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He doesn't have any numbers to warrant HOF consideration.

Pre-injury...was looking real exciting when he shared the backcourt with Sam I Am.


lol, and which #s warrant Iguodala's HoF induction? is it the 15 career PER? or maybe the .125 WS/48? or is it the 12/3/3 career stat line?


Iggy averaging 12/5.1/4.4 for his career.

Keep in mind since he left Philly and played one unforgettable (No French, No Sway Lee) season in Denver...he basically sacrificed his offense to play a completely different role.


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Post#230 » by clyde21 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:30 pm

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He doesn't have any numbers to warrant HOF consideration.

Pre-injury...was looking real exciting when he shared the backcourt with Sam I Am.


lol, and which #s warrant Iguodala's HoF induction? is it the 15 career PER? or maybe the .125 WS/48? or is it the 12/3/3 career stat line?


Iggy averaging 12/5.1/4.4 for his career.

Keep in mind since he left Philly and played one unforgettable (No French, No Sway Lee) season in Denver...he basically sacrificed his offense to play a completely different role.


lol, sorry, 12/5/4. let's roll out the red carpet immediately. :lol:

he didn't sacrifice anything. when he came here he was STILL a starter getting 32+ minutes...his numbers dropped across the board because he was no longer the same player.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#231 » by Galloisdaman » Mon May 20, 2019 6:36 pm

will wrote:
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He doesn't have any numbers to warrant HOF consideration.

Pre-injury...was looking real exciting when he shared the backcourt with Sam I Am.


lol, and which #s warrant Iguodala's HoF induction? is it the 15 career PER? or maybe the .125 WS/48? or is it the 12/3/3 career stat line?


Iggy averaging 12/5.1/4.4 for his career.

Keep in mind since he left Philly and played one unforgettable (No French, No Sway Lee) season in Denver...he basically sacrificed his offense to play a completely different role.


1. He was easily forgetable in Denver.

2. He didn't sacrifice his offense. He just isn't good offensively.

3. Is he "sacrificing" when he shoots from the ft line (53%)
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#232 » by will » Mon May 20, 2019 6:37 pm

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lol, and which #s warrant Iguodala's HoF induction? is it the 15 career PER? or maybe the .125 WS/48? or is it the 12/3/3 career stat line?


Iggy averaging 12/5.1/4.4 for his career.

Keep in mind since he left Philly and played one unforgettable (No French, No Sway Lee) season in Denver...he basically sacrificed his offense to play a completely different role.


1. He was easily forgetable in Denver.

2. He didn't sacrifice his offense. He just isn't good offensively.

3. Is he "sacrificing" when he shoots from the ft line (53%)


Is it too late for me to backtrack out of this? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#233 » by clyde21 » Mon May 20, 2019 6:46 pm

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Iggy averaging 12/5.1/4.4 for his career.

Keep in mind since he left Philly and played one unforgettable (No French, No Sway Lee) season in Denver...he basically sacrificed his offense to play a completely different role.


1. He was easily forgetable in Denver.

2. He didn't sacrifice his offense. He just isn't good offensively.

3. Is he "sacrificing" when he shoots from the ft line (53%)


Is it too late for me to backtrack out of this? :lol: :lol: :lol:


im mad that you're making me talk that ish about my boy Iggy :banghead:
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Post#234 » by Vibranium » Mon May 20, 2019 6:56 pm

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VYoungJrIII wrote:I voted yes because of his accolades, but numberwise I could see why he wouldn't make it.


1 time allstar and 6th man for 4 title teams? Really?

Finals MVP is a big one
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Post#235 » by dho4ever » Mon May 20, 2019 7:12 pm

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VYoungJrIII wrote:I voted yes because of his accolades, but numberwise I could see why he wouldn't make it.


1 time allstar and 6th man for 4 title teams? Really?

Finals MVP is a big one


Cedrix Maxwell also won a finals MVP on a team with Bird, McHale and Parish. No one's rallying him for a Hall of Fame vote.
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Post#236 » by PizzaSteve » Mon May 20, 2019 7:18 pm

I think he is smart enough that, should he pursue it, he could get in as a combination star player and great coach. I believe Iguadala (i understand he doesnt like Iggy) could be a HOF level coach. Mark it down.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#237 » by Sulico » Mon May 20, 2019 7:19 pm

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you're right, let's ignore the stats and accolades, your opinion means more.


Nothing to do with my opinion. Don't even like Iggy all that much.
Pure facts. Iggy played vital role in 3 championships, Worthy played vital role in 3 championships.
Worthy's role was more important. Iggy had longer career and had more succes as a leader and best player of a team.


so did Shaun Livingston, should we throw him in the HoF too?


Much MUCH lesser role. No success otherwise.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#238 » by will » Mon May 20, 2019 7:20 pm

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1 time allstar and 6th man for 4 title teams? Really?

Finals MVP is a big one


Cedrix Maxwell also won a finals MVP on a team with Bird, McHale and Parish. No one's rallying him for a Hall of Fame vote.


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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#239 » by clyde21 » Mon May 20, 2019 7:21 pm

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Nothing to do with my opinion. Don't even like Iggy all that much.
Pure facts. Iggy played vital role in 3 championships, Worthy played vital role in 3 championships.
Worthy's role was more important. Iggy had longer career and had more succes as a leader and best player of a team.


so did Shaun Livingston, should we throw him in the HoF too?


Much MUCH lesser role. No success otherwise.


so what's the threshold between a HoF role player and a non HoF role player?

you're running around in circle, you don't really have an argument.
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Re: Is Iggy a Hall of Famer 

Post#240 » by Galloisdaman » Mon May 20, 2019 7:23 pm

VYoungJrIII wrote:
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VYoungJrIII wrote:I voted yes because of his accolades, but numberwise I could see why he wouldn't make it.


1 time allstar and 6th man for 4 title teams? Really?

Finals MVP is a big one


Has a finals mvp ever had worse regular season stats the year the writers gave the award? So hof for 6 games averaging 16ppg with good defense? Seems legit for a guy who has played 1200.
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