Dumpster Thread for "Raptor Fans Cheering" - keep all discussion here

[Luigi]

oh, a random kick from 4 years where Stevens didn't even miss any time?

gotcha.

I mean, he did do it TWICE to Adams in that series. Along with other shenanigans.

'other shenanigans'...right, so u admit the original premise is complete bull

You said the kick was random. The fact that he did it TWICE seems to count against it being a random act, no?

Here's the other shenanigans from when they happened. The truth is that Green's technicals suspension should have been served against the Thunder that year. Edit: I see the NBA has been clearing house on youtube, bad PR videos don't look good for the league. He was guilty of multiple dirty plays. Own it.

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or reference, here's Green's recent body of work:

Against OKC:

Game 2 -

Watch on YouTube

Game 3 -

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Game 4 -

Watch on YouTube

Game 5 - http://thebiglead.com/2016/05/27/video-draymond-green-kicked-andre-roberson-in-the-face/
Game 7 -

Watch on YouTube

Against Cavs:

Game 1 - http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/6/2/11848564/draymond-green-flopped-and-nearly-kicked-kyrie-irving-in-the-face
Game 4 -

Watch on YouTube

Am I missing any?

[floppymoose]

What's worse clapping when a player goes down or being the guy that repeatedly causes the injuries on purpose like Draymond Green?, who is seen by American media as one of the games greatest defenders and ultimate competitors.

So some fans of your team do something wrong, and your response is "but what about...?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[rilamann]

It's a shame that the majority of Raptors fans have to make the few good ones look bad.

[Clementine64]

What's worse clapping when a player goes down or being the guy that repeatedly causes the injuries on purpose like Draymond Green?, who is seen by American media as one of the games greatest defenders and ultimate competitors.

So some fans of your team do something wrong, and your response is "but what about...?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Yes, I felt to point out hypocrisy and hyperbole when I saw it.

[shza]

I mean, he did do it TWICE to Adams in that series. Along with other shenanigans.

'other shenanigans'...right, so u admit the original premise is complete bull

You said the kick was random. The fact that he did it TWICE seems to count against it being a random act, no?

Here's the other shenanigans from when they happened. The truth is that Green's technicals suspension should have been served against the Thunder that year. Edit: I see the NBA has been clearing house on youtube, bad PR videos don't look good for the league. He was guilty of multiple dirty plays. Own it.

posting.php?mode=edit&f=6&p=47829521

or reference, here's Green's recent body of work:

Against OKC:

Game 2 -

Watch on YouTube

Game 3 -

Watch on YouTube

;spfreload=5
Game 4 -

Watch on YouTube

Game 5 - http://thebiglead.com/2016/05/27/video-draymond-green-kicked-andre-roberson-in-the-face/
Game 7 -

Watch on YouTube

Against Cavs:

Game 1 - http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/6/2/11848564/draymond-green-flopped-and-nearly-kicked-kyrie-irving-in-the-face
Game 4 -

Watch on YouTube

Am I missing any?

This stupid post is relevant to a (troll) thread about “purposely causing an injury” exactly how? Just apologize for cheering a player’s injury. Pathetic.

[floppymoose]

Yes, I felt to point out hypocrisy and hyperbole when I saw it.

You should have just taken a stand against asshats. It's not that hard.

[Luigi]

This stupid post is relevant to a (troll) thread about “purposely causing an injury” exactly how? Just apologize for cheering a player’s injury. Pathetic.

I don't understand who you are addressing or how.

[Clementine64]

when did Draymond purposefully injure anyone?

Come on this is common knowledge....The kicks to the nuts, the harden eye pokes, dislocating JV's thumb, tackling players knees/legs when falling down etc. Whenever there is an inury to a GSW opponent Draymond Green is almost always the guy doing the damage, its no coincidence

[shza]

This stupid post is relevant to a (troll) thread about “purposely causing an injury” exactly how? Just apologize for cheering a player’s injury. Pathetic.

I don't understand who you are addressing or how.

I think you do. Or you’re really, really dense.

The thread poses a made-up choice in an attempt to excuse deplorable behavior from Raps fans tonight, referencing unexplained “injuries” “purposely caused” by Draymond Green as the reason to excuse (totally unrelated) inexcusable conduct from Raps fans.

People ask the troll OP for examples of what purposeful injuries he’s referencing.

You butt in and post a bunch of examples of people not being injured by Draymond Green.

[shza]

when did Draymond purposefully injure anyone?

Come on this is common knowledge....The kicks to the nuts, the harden eye pokes, dislocating JV's thumb, tackling players knees/legs when falling down etc. Whenever there is an inury to a GSW opponent Draymond Green is almost always the guy doing the damage, its no coincidence

Putting aside the falsity of all that, your position is that therefore it was cool for Raps fans to cheer a potentially career-changing injury to someone other than Draymond Green?

[Raps in 4]

when did Draymond purposefully injure anyone?

Literally last game:

Watch on YouTube

[Luigi]

This stupid post is relevant to a (troll) thread about “purposely causing an injury” exactly how? Just apologize for cheering a player’s injury. Pathetic.

I don't understand who you are addressing or how.

I think you do. Or you’re really, really dense.

The thread poses a made-up choice in an attempt to excuse deplorable behavior from Raps fans tonight, referencing unexplained “injuries” “purposely caused” by Draymond Green as the reason to excuse (totally unrelated) inexcusable conduct from Raps fans.

People ask the troll OP for examples of what purposeful injuries he’s referencing.

You butt in and post a bunch of examples of people not being injured by Draymond Green.

You are making a lot of assumptions here. I didn't cheer Durant's injury.

Green's intentional plays did cause injury. The question is how serious they were. If you'd like to draw the line at missing games, that's fine. Others might think it's important to talk about intentional dirty play. Others think the potential for injury matters.

I agree with you about the basic premise of the thread, though. The two things (intentional injury vs cheering for injiry) aren't related. I am just addressing Green's play here.

[ElectricMayhem]

If making up lies about the opponent gets you more amped up, then hey, go at it. Sometimes a little self-propaganda does the trick.

[BayArea408415]

Is the point of the thread to simply deflect attention away from the poor behavior by some (not all) Raptors fans at Air Canada Centre/Scotiabank Arena and Jurassic Park’s Square to Draymond Green? Otherwise, they’re both bad and we don’t need to debate which is worse.

Like, they behaved in poor taste and it was awful to see. Just recognize it happened and move on. I’m still very irritated to see it happen but I’m not going to cause an uproar about it.

[Clementine64]

Yes, I felt to point out hypocrisy and hyperbole when I saw it.

You should have just taken a stand against asshats. It's not that hard.

Thank you for the advice, but i'm happy with the point i'm trying to make here.

We can all do a lot better as human beings, but lets chill on all the hyperbolic judgements.
As the proverb says "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

FWIW I heard some Warrior fans cheering when Fred VanVleet took the elbow to the teeth and left the game. I didn't get upset or judge all americans because of the actions of a few, that would be petty.

[Golden Knight]

The KD injury play where he slipped led to an Ibaka steal and fast break layup. Fans were cheering for that play. Not the injury. No one in the crowd knew what exactly happened until the whistle was blown and KD was supported off the court.

There were some cheers and waving goodbye at the end of the video though.

[Clementine64]

when did Draymond purposefully injure anyone?

Literally last game:

Watch on YouTube

This is disgusting. How are people defending Draymond, they should be ashamed.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

oh, a random kick from 4 years where Stevens didn't even miss any time?

gotcha.

I mean, he did do it TWICE to Adams in that series. Along with other shenanigans.

Please, let's not mix up things.
One thing is being physical or even dirty, another is to play to injure somebody.
I don't recall Green putting ever at risk the safety of an opponent.
Malone flooring Thomas was unacceptable. Fortson throwing Zarko on the stands was unacceptable. Bowen undercutting shooters to make them roll their ankles was unacceptable (or Pachulia with Kawhi). This can be career ending stuff.
Hard fouls can be bad and painful but are in a very different league.

To answer the original question: for a player trying to injure another on purpose should be ban worthy.

[TheBallsDeeper]

when did Draymond purposefully injure anyone?

Literally last game:

Watch on YouTube

What? Clean block, not even a foul.

If you want to look at dirty plays, look at Lowry taking out players legs while they are in the air. I hope that prick ruptures his knee before he injures anyone else.

[Luigi]

oh, a random kick from 4 years where Stevens didn't even miss any time?

gotcha.

I mean, he did do it TWICE to Adams in that series. Along with other shenanigans.

Please, let's not mix up things.
One thing is being physical or even dirty, another is to play to injure somebody.
I don't recall Green putting ever at risk the safety of an opponent.
Malone flooring Thomas was unacceptable. Fortson throwing Zarko on the stands was unacceptable. Bowen undercutting shooters to make them roll their ankles was unacceptable (or Pachulia with Kawhi). This can be career ending stuff.
Hard fouls can be bad and painful but are in a very different league.

To answer the original question: for a player trying to injure another on purpose should be ban worthy.

You need to watch Green more closely.

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But it's true, this is not related to some Raptor fans cheering an injury. That's bad behavior all its own. Still, I can't let Green get away with bad behavior either, even if it did come a few weeks ago.