Magic Exercising 20-21 Option on Fultz

[OzThunder]

Fultz is not an elite athlete nor has he elite handles and he is definitely not a killer in transition. I have heard these things before and i have no idea how anyone that has seen him play would reach such conclusions. If Fultz were an elite athlete with excellent handles he would be able to play even without a 3point shoot. It is precisely because he is neither of these that he is unplayable in his current state.

Moreover dont compare Embiid with Fultz. Embiid had a real injury and was a much better prospect in college. I am not even sure Fultz has a real injury, he literally stopped playing after he got his option picked up and was moved to the bench. He spent the whole summer last year shooting 3s supposedly without any issues and as soon as he secured one more year of money and was moved to the bench he suddenly was injured again.

I hope he overcomes whatever issues he has but lets not kid ourselves that this is a typical injury. He will be paid for the full 4 years of his rookie contract and to this day he has played back up minutes in 33 games and even in those he hasnt shown much. He is literally being paid based on his perceived potential, because he hasnt shown anything on the NBA court yet.

I saw him play last year and I would say he's a pretty elite athlete and is certainly a killer in transition. Without his jumpshot and whilst doing all the weird free throw stuff, he actually was playing pretty well. Nobody actually cares to notice that or give it credit. 8.2ppg on 42% shooting 3.7 rebounds and 3.1 assists. Put someone like that on the Raptors or Knicks for a season and we'd be hearing about the next big thing, not about a kid who fooled his way into the league. And that's whilst in the midst of these huge problems. Hate him all you want but he has huge potential.

If he were an elite athlete he would still be playing for the Sixers. He still had a pull up mid range jumper and he had decent court vision. You dont lose your job to TJ or tail to bring any value in a trade if you are all of the above.

The truth is, as i said, that Fultz is not an explosive athlete, which is part of the reason he was often getting blocked at the rim, and cannot create separation from the defender by himself. His size is an advantage as a pg but his not particularly arhletic for his size or for a pg. If he were to have any success in the NBA it would be through skill and craftiness, not through athleticism. Which is the reason why his shooting issues are such a problem. It is almost impossible to be even a starting pg when you are neither very athletic nor a good shooter.

Yeah if we're talking specifically and only about vertical leap, he's not an "explosive athlete", but I said he was elite, considering size, speed, change of direction etc.

He didn't lose his spot to TJ McConnell. He got shelved because of the focus on the shooting issues. He was playing at an OK level. But it was a call to stop and fix the issue (looking forward into his career) instead of maintaining this "average/ (injured)" level. He could've played on without any semblance of a jumpshot and maintained his spot in the rotation (as he did).

Your forcing a narrative that isn't there. I doubt you watched him play.

[dhsilv2]

Not questioning experts, questioning whether an expert diagnosed him or if it was something more nebulous that his agent ran with.

Did you follow the whole situation closely or did you just start paying attention when he was traded to your team? There's tons of examples of misleading information coming out of his camp. There's been a constant cycle of them having some flimsy story, that story getting blown up and everyone involved looking like they have no idea what they're doing. You tell by the end the Sixers and even the media around the team just gave up and didn't want to deal with the next weird situation. People act like there's a bunch of hate and I'm sure you can find examples of that in this thread and on the internet in general, but the fact is most people just wanted it to end and/or feel bad for the guy.

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

[fateis007]

Umm.... Fultz is one of the most athletic guards in the NBA. I am not sure what people are smoking saying his vertical jump isn't good or that he isnt explosive.

He isn't Trey Young, he can play above the rim. Look at him throwing down dunks with the rim at his head.

Watch on YouTube

[Sixerscan]

Not questioning experts, questioning whether an expert diagnosed him or if it was something more nebulous that his agent ran with.

Did you follow the whole situation closely or did you just start paying attention when he was traded to your team? There's tons of examples of misleading information coming out of his camp. There's been a constant cycle of them having some flimsy story, that story getting blown up and everyone involved looking like they have no idea what they're doing. You tell by the end the Sixers and even the media around the team just gave up and didn't want to deal with the next weird situation. People act like there's a bunch of hate and I'm sure you can find examples of that in this thread and on the internet in general, but the fact is most people just wanted it to end and/or feel bad for the guy.

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

They barely traded anything for him, it was a flyer that maybe it will work out.

I think Occam's Razor tells us that no doctor is associated with diagnosing him because no doctor diagnosed him. It doesn't make any sense, what he's ok with saying he has a condition, he's ok with his agent saying he has a condition, but isn't ok with a doctor saying it? Huh? Like I'm not saying it's impossible (again, everything about this is weird) but it doesn't seem like the simplest explanation to me.

[michaelm]

Not questioning experts, questioning whether an expert diagnosed him or if it was something more nebulous that his agent ran with.

Did you follow the whole situation closely or did you just start paying attention when he was traded to your team? There's tons of examples of misleading information coming out of his camp. There's been a constant cycle of them having some flimsy story, that story getting blown up and everyone involved looking like they have no idea what they're doing. You tell by the end the Sixers and even the media around the team just gave up and didn't want to deal with the next weird situation. People act like there's a bunch of hate and I'm sure you can find examples of that in this thread and on the internet in general, but the fact is most people just wanted it to end and/or feel bad for the guy.

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

Most people on here won’t get the reference, but Casey Stoner the dual motogp world champion was considered to be a psychologically broken malingerer inventing illness as an excuse including by his own team for whom he had won their only world title on precisely the basis that the doctors attached to the sport couldn’t diagnose his ailment. He eventually sought his own medical advice, won his first race back, then the world title the following year for a different team, both in a totally dominant fashion. Fultz hadn’t proved himself in the first place but multiple doctors not diagnosing a condition they don’t know about or don’t accept exists is hardly without precedent.
Nobody knew about arm pump in earlier days in gp bike racing and symptoms due to that condition were sometimes attributed to psychological issues as well.

Events will prove what is going on with Fultz. I know nothing about TOS although the proposed mechanism sounds somewhat plausible, but as a diagnosis which it would seem there is no way of proving or disproving by any independent testing can see why the condition is problematic. The test will be If he is treated for it and resolves his issue. If he has the yips which is basically a neurological condition anyway then he will very likely continue to have them.

[fateis007]

Some of your Sixers fans are cracked out. Time to get outside and get some air. This guy doesn't have "yips" for god sakes. He was a star in college and I doubt the "pressure of the nba" caused him to change his shot and become a shell of himself. He is a young guy making 12 million a year to play a game, that he loves. Could you ask for anything more?

Seriously, this manure of a narrative you guys are pushing to make yourselves feel better is just shameful.

The guy was diagnosed with a nerve injury, that isn't easy to spot. He is rehabbing in hopes of keeping his dream alive.

Please Sixer fans, stop being so salty at the prospect of him coming back, just because it isn't in your window. Just wish him luck and move on (preferably outside to get some air)

[Sixerscan]

Not questioning experts, questioning whether an expert diagnosed him or if it was something more nebulous that his agent ran with.

Did you follow the whole situation closely or did you just start paying attention when he was traded to your team? There's tons of examples of misleading information coming out of his camp. There's been a constant cycle of them having some flimsy story, that story getting blown up and everyone involved looking like they have no idea what they're doing. You tell by the end the Sixers and even the media around the team just gave up and didn't want to deal with the next weird situation. People act like there's a bunch of hate and I'm sure you can find examples of that in this thread and on the internet in general, but the fact is most people just wanted it to end and/or feel bad for the guy.

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

I follow the Sixers as my second team because of Simmons, but it seemed to me it wasn’t tenable for the Sixers to give Fultz heavy rotation minutes in view of Simmons’ deficiency which is pretty much singular imo but rather a problem in a guard in the modern game, and they want to win now and didn’t have time to wait on Fultz.

Most people on here won’t get the reference, but Casey Stoner the dual motogp world champion was considered to be a psychologically broken malingerer inventing illness as an excuse including by his own team for whom he had won their only world title on precisely the basis that the doctors attached to the sport couldn’t diagnose his ailment. He eventually sought his own medical advice, won his first race back, then the world title the following year for a different team, both in a totally dominant fashion.

They could wait on Fultz figuring out his jump shot. Like he was getting regular rotation minutes. What they couldn't wait on was the fact that he literally decided he couldn't play basketball anymore.

[dhsilv2]

Not questioning experts, questioning whether an expert diagnosed him or if it was something more nebulous that his agent ran with.

Did you follow the whole situation closely or did you just start paying attention when he was traded to your team? There's tons of examples of misleading information coming out of his camp. There's been a constant cycle of them having some flimsy story, that story getting blown up and everyone involved looking like they have no idea what they're doing. You tell by the end the Sixers and even the media around the team just gave up and didn't want to deal with the next weird situation. People act like there's a bunch of hate and I'm sure you can find examples of that in this thread and on the internet in general, but the fact is most people just wanted it to end and/or feel bad for the guy.

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

They barely traded anything for him, it was a flyer that maybe it will work out.

I think Occam's Razor tells us that no doctor is associated with diagnosing him because no doctor diagnosed him. It doesn't make any sense, what he's ok with saying he has a condition, he's ok with his agent saying he has a condition, but isn't ok with a doctor saying it? Huh? Like I'm not saying it's impossible (again, everything about this is weird) but it doesn't seem like the simplest explanation to me.

I still can't understand why you think a doctor would make the statement. When has that EVER happened outside of a surgeon?

And barely traded anything? We'll disagree on that I suppose. A top 20 protected first and a second is hardly nothing. It's not worth a lottery pick should be worth, but the magic still had their doctors involved. You don't just give that up.

[Dez]

I hope he kills it all the while sticking the middle finger up at the flogs actively campaigning against him.

[Sixerscan]

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

They barely traded anything for him, it was a flyer that maybe it will work out.

I think Occam's Razor tells us that no doctor is associated with diagnosing him because no doctor diagnosed him. It doesn't make any sense, what he's ok with saying he has a condition, he's ok with his agent saying he has a condition, but isn't ok with a doctor saying it? Huh? Like I'm not saying it's impossible (again, everything about this is weird) but it doesn't seem like the simplest explanation to me.

I still can't understand why you think a doctor would make the statement. When has that EVER happened outside of a surgeon?

And barely traded anything? We'll disagree on that I suppose. A top 20 protected first and a second is hardly nothing. It's not worth a lottery pick should be worth, but the magic still had their doctors involved. You don't just give that up.

With 5 seconds of googling you can find the name of the doctor that diagnosed him with the scapular muscle imbalance.

I don't really get how people are acting like this never happens... you hear about baseball players going to Dr. James Andrews all the time, not all of them get surgery...

[dhsilv2]

They barely traded anything for him, it was a flyer that maybe it will work out.

I think Occam's Razor tells us that no doctor is associated with diagnosing him because no doctor diagnosed him. It doesn't make any sense, what he's ok with saying he has a condition, he's ok with his agent saying he has a condition, but isn't ok with a doctor saying it? Huh? Like I'm not saying it's impossible (again, everything about this is weird) but it doesn't seem like the simplest explanation to me.

I still can't understand why you think a doctor would make the statement. When has that EVER happened outside of a surgeon?

And barely traded anything? We'll disagree on that I suppose. A top 20 protected first and a second is hardly nothing. It's not worth a lottery pick should be worth, but the magic still had their doctors involved. You don't just give that up.

With 5 seconds of googling you can find the name of the doctor that diagnosed him with the scapular muscle imbalance.

I don't really get how people are acting like this never happens... you hear about baseball players going to Dr. James Andrews all the time, not all of them get surgery...

James Andrews is extremely unique (and nba guys have gone to him as well), but he is a surgeon.

Do you for example know Kawhi Leonard's doctors? I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but it honestly seems weird that we'd know the doctor. It's just not normal to discuss that.

[michaelm]

If anything on the Fultz topic I'd fall more into being a 76ers fan. So yes, I've been following it.

There's been a lot of confusing information on this. That doesn't bring reason to think Fultz isn't working with medical experts...again do you really think the magic would make a trade without talking to his doctors and having their own ones look into it?

As I've said Occam Razor tells us that he's getting good medical assistance, he doesn't want to be open with the fans, and we should just wait and see.

I follow the Sixers as my second team because of Simmons, but it seemed to me it wasn’t tenable for the Sixers to give Fultz heavy rotation minutes in view of Simmons’ deficiency which is pretty much singular imo but rather a problem in a guard in the modern game, and they want to win now and didn’t have time to wait on Fultz.

Most people on here won’t get the reference, but Casey Stoner the dual motogp world champion was considered to be a psychologically broken malingerer inventing illness as an excuse including by his own team for whom he had won their only world title on precisely the basis that the doctors attached to the sport couldn’t diagnose his ailment. He eventually sought his own medical advice, won his first race back, then the world title the following year for a different team, both in a totally dominant fashion.

They could wait on Fultz figuring out his jump shot. Like he was getting regular rotation minutes. What they couldn't wait on was the fact that he literally decided he couldn't play basketball anymore.

I follow the Sixers as a second team because of Simmons, and you will no doubt be better informed, but didn’t Hanlen or whomever, his renowned shooting coach, eventually decide himself that Fultz had an injury/health issue that shooting coaching wouldn’t resolve?.

[Sixerscan]

I still can't understand why you think a doctor would make the statement. When has that EVER happened outside of a surgeon?

And barely traded anything? We'll disagree on that I suppose. A top 20 protected first and a second is hardly nothing. It's not worth a lottery pick should be worth, but the magic still had their doctors involved. You don't just give that up.

With 5 seconds of googling you can find the name of the doctor that diagnosed him with the scapular muscle imbalance.

I don't really get how people are acting like this never happens... you hear about baseball players going to Dr. James Andrews all the time, not all of them get surgery...

James Andrews is extremely unique (and nba guys have gone to him as well), but he is a surgeon.

Do you for example know Kawhi Leonard's doctors? I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but it honestly seems weird that we'd know the doctor. It's just not normal to discuss that.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs

What Popovich did not say at the time, however, was that while Leonard was in New York, he saw Dr. Jonathan Glashow, an orthopedic surgeon and co-chair of Sports Medicine at New York City's Mount Sinai Medical Center who has professional affiliations with the New Jersey Devils and Philadelphia 76ers.

Frankel and Robertson arranged the consultation, according to multiple sources, and the Spurs were informed of the decision and the doctor's recommendations. From this point forward, Glashow and his team have guided the rehabilitation program, sources said. The Spurs have had staffers in New York to observe and assist in Leonard's work, which has primarily taken place at the NBA Players Association headquarters in midtown Manhattan.

The frustration on the Spurs' end stems from losing control of the medical care of their franchise player, and the way in which the entire process has been handled by Leonard's representation, according to multiple sources.

Said one Spurs staffer, "It's out of our hands."

Surgeons do more than just perform surgeries...

[dhsilv2]

With 5 seconds of googling you can find the name of the doctor that diagnosed him with the scapular muscle imbalance.

I don't really get how people are acting like this never happens... you hear about baseball players going to Dr. James Andrews all the time, not all of them get surgery...

James Andrews is extremely unique (and nba guys have gone to him as well), but he is a surgeon.

Do you for example know Kawhi Leonard's doctors? I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but it honestly seems weird that we'd know the doctor. It's just not normal to discuss that.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs

What Popovich did not say at the time, however, was that while Leonard was in New York, he saw Dr. Jonathan Glashow, an orthopedic surgeon and co-chair of Sports Medicine at New York City's Mount Sinai Medical Center who has professional affiliations with the New Jersey Devils and Philadelphia 76ers.

Frankel and Robertson arranged the consultation, according to multiple sources, and the Spurs were informed of the decision and the doctor's recommendations. From this point forward, Glashow and his team have guided the rehabilitation program, sources said. The Spurs have had staffers in New York to observe and assist in Leonard's work, which has primarily taken place at the NBA Players Association headquarters in midtown Manhattan.

The frustration on the Spurs' end stems from losing control of the medical care of their franchise player, and the way in which the entire process has been handled by Leonard's representation, according to multiple sources.

Said one Spurs staffer, "It's out of our hands."

Surgeons do more than just perform surgeries...

Interesting

I'm aware surgeons do more than surgeries...

[LKN]

Allow me to summarize this thread:

[HotelVitale]

He didn't lose his spot to TJ McConnell. He got shelved because of the focus on the shooting issues. He was playing at an OK level. But it was a call to stop and fix the issue (looking forward into his career) instead of maintaining this "average/ (injured)" level. He could've played on without any semblance of a jumpshot and maintained his spot in the rotation (as he did). Your forcing a narrative that isn't there. I doubt you watched him play.

Can't let you get away with that. I watched near every minute of Fultz on the Sixers and he was never a legit rotation guy on his own merits. There were definitely some flashes and he had a few games where he was contributing positively, but that's it. He was a low volume guy with league-bottom efficiency, who had a NBA body and played hard but otherwise just looked like he was a novelty.

He did have a good size+athlete package but this is the NBA--you have to be a wildly rare freak of nature to be a decent player without a jumper, and Fultz wasn't close to that type of prospect. His promise as a prospect was premised on him hitting pull-ups at an elite level, the rest of his high ceiling came from things revolving around that (playing pn'r and hitting jumpers if they went under and driving/pocket passes if over). He could finish alright, rebounded well for a guard, and saw the floor pretty well on the move but those were definitely secondary/tertiary things and not close to things he could get by on in the NBA.

[dhsilv2]

He didn't lose his spot to TJ McConnell. He got shelved because of the focus on the shooting issues. He was playing at an OK level. But it was a call to stop and fix the issue (looking forward into his career) instead of maintaining this "average/ (injured)" level. He could've played on without any semblance of a jumpshot and maintained his spot in the rotation (as he did). Your forcing a narrative that isn't there. I doubt you watched him play.

Can't let you get away with that. I watched near every minute of Fultz on the Sixers and he was never a legit rotation guy on his own merits. There were definitely some flashes and he had a few games where he was contributing positively, but that's it. He was a low volume guy with league-bottom efficiency, who had a NBA body and played hard but otherwise just looked like he was a novelty.

He did have a good size+athlete package but this is the NBA--you have to be a wildly rare freak of nature to be a decent player without a jumper, and Fultz wasn't close to that type of prospect. His promise as a prospect was premised on him hitting pull-ups at an elite level, the rest of his high ceiling came from things revolving around that (playing pn'r and hitting jumpers if they went under and driving/pocket passes if over). He could finish alright, rebounded well for a guard, and saw the floor pretty well on the move but those were definitely secondary/tertiary things and not close to things he could get by on in the NBA.

Fultz was 20-21 years old. He was already an above average "point guard defender", as you pointed out rebounder, he was killing it in transition, and yes he was a darn good athlete. His passing was ok at best but given his age, promising. He had an awful pull up shot (no clue who said he had one), was horrible and I mean horrible off ball on offense. The reality is he was a legit rotation player all be it not a good one. He wasn't a starter.

Given his age that's not a bad profile at all for a guy most teams would want to keep around with hopes of developing into a quality starter.

So anyone who'd disappointed by that profile given his number 1 pick status...well he at no point looked like a clear number 1 guy. With a jumper I think we'd be talking about a guy with a lot of potential to be a 5x allstar but not multiple time all nba first team guy. I'm not sure however where people are coming from. He isn't an elite athlete? Well that's crazy talk, he's a legit nba player with no jumper at 6'4! Yeah he's an athlete! He isn't an nba player....just false. He wasn't a starter nor didn't he fit on the 76ers. But not a player? Again given his age he was clearly a 6-10 year player in the league on athletics alone.

[OzThunder]

He didn't lose his spot to TJ McConnell. He got shelved because of the focus on the shooting issues. He was playing at an OK level. But it was a call to stop and fix the issue (looking forward into his career) instead of maintaining this "average/ (injured)" level. He could've played on without any semblance of a jumpshot and maintained his spot in the rotation (as he did). Your forcing a narrative that isn't there. I doubt you watched him play.

Can't let you get away with that. I watched near every minute of Fultz on the Sixers and he was never a legit rotation guy on his own merits. There were definitely some flashes and he had a few games where he was contributing positively, but that's it. He was a low volume guy with league-bottom efficiency, who had a NBA body and played hard but otherwise just looked like he was a novelty.

He did have a good size+athlete package but this is the NBA--you have to be a wildly rare freak of nature to be a decent player without a jumper, and Fultz wasn't close to that type of prospect. His promise as a prospect was premised on him hitting pull-ups at an elite level, the rest of his high ceiling came from things revolving around that (playing pn'r and hitting jumpers if they went under and driving/pocket passes if over). He could finish alright, rebounded well for a guard, and saw the floor pretty well on the move but those were definitely secondary/tertiary things and not close to things he could get by on in the NBA.

I watched near ever minute and he was a legit rotation guy. Low turnovers and an OK shooting pertentage whilst not playing in his ideal role.... what's part of that doesn't relate to a rotation guy?

It's comparable to say... an OKC Reggie Jackson? FVV? Dejonte Murray? Jeremy Lin a few years back? Good rotation players, before we move to comparing him to the bad rotation players.

And even if it's not exactly comparable, most the debate is around whether he deserves to be in the league. He was clearly a solid rotation guy when available.

[GeorgeMarcus]

Some of your Sixers fans are cracked out. Time to get outside and get some air. This guy doesn't have "yips" for god sakes. He was a star in college and I doubt the "pressure of the nba" caused him to change his shot and become a shell of himself. He is a young guy making 12 million a year to play a game, that he loves. Could you ask for anything more?

Seriously, this manure of a narrative you guys are pushing to make yourselves feel better is just shameful.

The guy was diagnosed with a nerve injury, that isn't easy to spot. He is rehabbing in hopes of keeping his dream alive.

Please Sixer fans, stop being so salty at the prospect of him coming back, just because it isn't in your window. Just wish him luck and move on (preferably outside to get some air)

I liked your post in defense of Markelle, but I also gotta defend my people. Hating on Fultz was perpetuated first and foremost by non Sixers fans. The conclusion of his Philly saga left a bitter taste in our mouths, some more than others, but it wasn’t Philly fans diagnosing him with the yips, sexual impotence, and whatever else he’s accused of. Lloyd was always an exception to the rule.

[michaelm]

Some of your Sixers fans are cracked out. Time to get outside and get some air. This guy doesn't have "yips" for god sakes. He was a star in college and I doubt the "pressure of the nba" caused him to change his shot and become a shell of himself. He is a young guy making 12 million a year to play a game, that he loves. Could you ask for anything more?

Seriously, this manure of a narrative you guys are pushing to make yourselves feel better is just shameful.

The guy was diagnosed with a nerve injury, that isn't easy to spot. He is rehabbing in hopes of keeping his dream alive.

Please Sixer fans, stop being so salty at the prospect of him coming back, just because it isn't in your window. Just wish him luck and move on (preferably outside to get some air)

I liked your post in defense of Markelle, but I also gotta defend my people. Hating on Fultz was perpetuated first and foremost by non Sixers fans. The conclusion of his Philly saga left a bitter taste in our mouths, some more than others, but it wasn’t Philly fans diagnosing him with the yips, sexual impotence, and whatever else he’s accused of. Lloyd was always an exception to the rule.

I followed much of the debate on the Sixers forum but saw even Lloyd’s schtick mostly being about the misuse of a high draft pick by the Sixers and much “I told you so”ing because he had predicted the outcome.

This needn’t involve moral turpitude on Fultz’s part nor mean he doesn’t/didn’t have a genuine potentially resolvable physical problem, and if he does/did I don’t see why anyone should wish him other than the best. I would imagine the Magic’s medical corps know who his doctor was and have liaised with that doctor in addition to making their own assessment. We shall see fairly soon, he won’t have value even as a trade piece if he doesn’t play consistent minutes this year, despite which the Magic have exercised their option on him. Was he shooting freely in the gym and only yipping in games when he was with the Sixers?.