Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA?

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#221 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:32 pm

Time for Change wrote:
GoochyMane wrote:imagine deciding on a player half thru their first season


There is quote, which unfortunately I can’t find right now, about how long it takes to find out if a guy can play or not, and the answer was three hard practices. This was in regards to Darko, and how all the Pistons knew he couldn’t be a player in the NBA almost immediately.

You don’t need to give a guy 2, 3, 4 years to prove he is a bust or not the right fit.


Do you have access to those "three hard practices"?

Are you Ben Wallace, Tayshaun Prince or Too Hamilton?

Have you had a hard practices against Reddish that you can use to judge him?

Do you think sitting on your couch watching Reddish play on TV, that is the same as being Ben Wallace boxing out Darko Milicic?

No? Then stfu and let a 19 year old play.

Dude balled out last night. Players his age, you should be looking for flashes, not consistentcey.

By 20/21/22 you generally need more constencey.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#222 » by Buzzard » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:44 pm

Time for Change wrote:
GoochyMane wrote:imagine deciding on a player half thru their first season


There is quote, which unfortunately I can’t find right now, about how long it takes to find out if a guy can play or not, and the answer was three hard practices. This was in regards to Darko, and how all the Pistons knew he couldn’t be a player in the NBA almost immediately.

You don’t need to give a guy 2, 3, 4 years to prove he is a bust or not the right fit.

If that was the case their teammate Chauncey Billups would have been out of the league at 23. He averaged under .400 FG% for three straight seasons with three different teams: Boston, Toronto, Denver. Just when he was starting to find his feet in Minnesota ( his 4th team ) they traded him to Detroit.

The general rule is you know if a player is a starter by year two or three. But like all things, there are exceptions. Players like Trae show out early and players like Chauncey take longer.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#223 » by Dasein » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:49 pm

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Time for Change wrote:
GoochyMane wrote:imagine deciding on a player half thru their first season


There is quote, which unfortunately I can’t find right now, about how long it takes to find out if a guy can play or not, and the answer was three hard practices. This was in regards to Darko, and how all the Pistons knew he couldn’t be a player in the NBA almost immediately.

You don’t need to give a guy 2, 3, 4 years to prove he is a bust or not the right fit.

If that was the case their teammate Chauncey Billups would have been out of the league at 23. He averaged under .400 FG% for three straight seasons with three different teams: Boston, Toronto, Denver. Just when he was starting to find his feet in Minnesota ( his 4th team ) they traded him to Detroit.

The general rule is you know if a player is a starter by year two or three. But like all things, there are exceptions. Players like Trae show out early and players like Chauncey take longer.


Chauncey was a rare exception though... usually does not take as he did to show you are NBA worthy.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#224 » by Buzzard » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:58 pm

Dasein wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
Time for Change wrote:
There is quote, which unfortunately I can’t find right now, about how long it takes to find out if a guy can play or not, and the answer was three hard practices. This was in regards to Darko, and how all the Pistons knew he couldn’t be a player in the NBA almost immediately.

You don’t need to give a guy 2, 3, 4 years to prove he is a bust or not the right fit.

If that was the case their teammate Chauncey Billups would have been out of the league at 23. He averaged under .400 FG% for three straight seasons with three different teams: Boston, Toronto, Denver. Just when he was starting to find his feet in Minnesota ( his 4th team ) they traded him to Detroit.

The general rule is you know if a player is a starter by year two or three. But like all things, there are exceptions. Players like Trae show out early and players like Chauncey take longer.


Chauncey was a rare exception though... usually does not take as he did to show you are NBA worthy.

That is what I said. Chauncey and Trae are both rare exceptions. 2- 3 years is usually enough to see starter quality in a player.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#226 » by High 5 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:47 am

I don't know who we're going to draft this summer, but I hope the expert scouts of RealGM hate him.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#227 » by Jables » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:55 am

I bet we've all learned our lesson not to judge kids too early. I'm just glad this will never happen again.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#228 » by marco102 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:56 pm

High 5 wrote:I don't know who we're going to draft this summer, but I hope the expert scouts of RealGM hate him.


If the Hawks draft Lonzo Ball, the Hawks will be the most hated team on Real GM.

They already have whipping boys Trae Young and Cam Reddish, starting, to proving them wrong.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#229 » by Geaux_Hawks » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:01 pm

In each month, Killa Cam has upped his scoring and improved his shooting percentages:

October (5 games): 5.2 points, 20.9% FG, 5.6% 3-PT FG, 27.9% TS

November (12 games): 7.9 points, 32% FG, 27.9% 3-PT FG, 42.8% TS

December (14 games): 9.4 points, 35.9% FG, 31% 3-PT FG, 46.7% TS

January (14 games): 11.9 points, 41.1% FG, 40.3% 3-PT FG, 54.3% TS

February (9 games): 13.4 points, 44.1% FG, 34.9% 3-PT FG, 57.2% TS

March (3 games): 19.7 points, 61.1% FG, 56.3% 3-PT FG, 75.5% TS

Amazing what a little time and development can do for you.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#230 » by Duffman100 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:20 pm

Just joined a dynasty league where I have this guy. Was shocked when I checked his numbers. I hadn't checked in on Reddish for awhile as I figured it was one of those rookie years for a young kid where you can't judge him.

Damn nice turn around, good to see.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#231 » by Bigfactsstackz » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:30 pm

Bryn Forbes is the worst starter in the league by a good margin ..
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#232 » by Haddaway » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:46 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Meanwhile


Herro or Nunn are way better than Barret.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#233 » by Mone 24 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:48 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:In each month, Killa Cam has upped his scoring and improved his shooting percentages:

October (5 games): 5.2 points, 20.9% FG, 5.6% 3-PT FG, 27.9% TS

November (12 games): 7.9 points, 32% FG, 27.9% 3-PT FG, 42.8% TS

December (14 games): 9.4 points, 35.9% FG, 31% 3-PT FG, 46.7% TS

January (14 games): 11.9 points, 41.1% FG, 40.3% 3-PT FG, 54.3% TS

February (9 games): 13.4 points, 44.1% FG, 34.9% 3-PT FG, 57.2% TS

March (3 games): 19.7 points, 61.1% FG, 56.3% 3-PT FG, 75.5% TS

Amazing what a little time and development can do for you.


Cam is the umpteenth example that a player can't be judged until the 3rd year in the league.

So happy for Reddish.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#234 » by Klayforspicy » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:51 pm

Cam doesn't have the skillset of a player who will be flat out terrible. At the very worst he'll be a Marvin Williams.

Rubio had some horrific shooting numbers in his early seasons.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#235 » by Alonzo_Morning » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:53 pm

Mone 24 wrote:
Geaux_Hawks wrote:In each month, Killa Cam has upped his scoring and improved his shooting percentages:

October (5 games): 5.2 points, 20.9% FG, 5.6% 3-PT FG, 27.9% TS

November (12 games): 7.9 points, 32% FG, 27.9% 3-PT FG, 42.8% TS

December (14 games): 9.4 points, 35.9% FG, 31% 3-PT FG, 46.7% TS

January (14 games): 11.9 points, 41.1% FG, 40.3% 3-PT FG, 54.3% TS

February (9 games): 13.4 points, 44.1% FG, 34.9% 3-PT FG, 57.2% TS

March (3 games): 19.7 points, 61.1% FG, 56.3% 3-PT FG, 75.5% TS

Amazing what a little time and development can do for you.


Cam is the umpteenth example that a player can't be judged until the 3rd year in the league.

So happy for Reddish.


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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#236 » by Duffman100 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:54 pm

Mone 24 wrote:
Geaux_Hawks wrote:In each month, Killa Cam has upped his scoring and improved his shooting percentages:

October (5 games): 5.2 points, 20.9% FG, 5.6% 3-PT FG, 27.9% TS

November (12 games): 7.9 points, 32% FG, 27.9% 3-PT FG, 42.8% TS

December (14 games): 9.4 points, 35.9% FG, 31% 3-PT FG, 46.7% TS

January (14 games): 11.9 points, 41.1% FG, 40.3% 3-PT FG, 54.3% TS

February (9 games): 13.4 points, 44.1% FG, 34.9% 3-PT FG, 57.2% TS

March (3 games): 19.7 points, 61.1% FG, 56.3% 3-PT FG, 75.5% TS

Amazing what a little time and development can do for you.


Cam is the umpteenth example that a player can't be judged until the 3rd year in the league.

So happy for Reddish.


You especially can't judge the first half of a first season of the a rookie who is 19 years old.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#237 » by Mone 24 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:01 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Mone 24 wrote:
Geaux_Hawks wrote:In each month, Killa Cam has upped his scoring and improved his shooting percentages:

October (5 games): 5.2 points, 20.9% FG, 5.6% 3-PT FG, 27.9% TS

November (12 games): 7.9 points, 32% FG, 27.9% 3-PT FG, 42.8% TS

December (14 games): 9.4 points, 35.9% FG, 31% 3-PT FG, 46.7% TS

January (14 games): 11.9 points, 41.1% FG, 40.3% 3-PT FG, 54.3% TS

February (9 games): 13.4 points, 44.1% FG, 34.9% 3-PT FG, 57.2% TS

March (3 games): 19.7 points, 61.1% FG, 56.3% 3-PT FG, 75.5% TS

Amazing what a little time and development can do for you.


Cam is the umpteenth example that a player can't be judged until the 3rd year in the league.

So happy for Reddish.


You especially can't judge the first half of a first season of the a rookie who is 19 years old.


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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#238 » by kg01 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:06 pm

Where's all the dudes that gave up on him after 3 games tho?
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#239 » by NoBias » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:23 pm

Haddaway wrote:
DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Meanwhile


Herro or Nunn are way better than Barret.


LOL. Dead.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#240 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:25 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:In each month, Killa Cam has upped his scoring and improved his shooting percentages:

October (5 games): 5.2 points, 20.9% FG, 5.6% 3-PT FG, 27.9% TS

November (12 games): 7.9 points, 32% FG, 27.9% 3-PT FG, 42.8% TS

December (14 games): 9.4 points, 35.9% FG, 31% 3-PT FG, 46.7% TS

January (14 games): 11.9 points, 41.1% FG, 40.3% 3-PT FG, 54.3% TS

February (9 games): 13.4 points, 44.1% FG, 34.9% 3-PT FG, 57.2% TS

March (3 games): 19.7 points, 61.1% FG, 56.3% 3-PT FG, 75.5% TS

Amazing what a little time and development can do for you.


woah, you mean we can't draw conclusions after a few games?

but what will RealGM do?
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