Windhorst: If Giannis doesn't sign a Supermax, AD will sign a 1+1 deal in order to recruit Giannis to Lakers next year

[Jagic Mohnson]

No it wouldn't. He'll be 36 by the time Giannis' signature dries. If joining Wade and Bosh in Miami hasn't bothered you why would this now?

Because he was the best player amongst Wade and Bosh and he never get carried to his two titles in Miami. Not saying Giannis and AD will carry him but when we get to that Jordan/LeBron debate Jordan fans will have a field day putting an asterisk on his titles with Giannis and AD. That would really make sense of what Jordan said about not wanting to join Larry and Magic to win because Giannis and Davis are both elite.

Bosh was never a top 3 player in the NBA at that moment it was LeBron,Wade,and Kobe.

LeBron got carried in the 2011 finals and it was the biggest single player choke in NBA history. So no not carried in the finals wins, but he got carried in 2011 and still couldn't win.

LeBron's rep will take a hit if Giannis joins LA. He'd be "Mr Superteam" far worse than KD, who was inspired by LeBron. If Giannis joins LA, the league is basically a waste of time to watch.

You seriously blaming Lebron for superteams when the Celtics created a superteam to beat him in 2008. Then when the Warriors lose to him in 2016, they form a superteam to beat him in 2017. Lebron is staying ahead of the game because the Nets and Clippers will probably create a superteam to beat Lebron next summer or as early as this upcoming trade deadline.

[othawhitemeat]

Meh, no different than celtics big 3 joining in 2007. Its going to be a 37 year old Lebron and AD. Adding someone who continuously fails in the post season and can't shoot isn't that great. Better off find 3 very good role players.

Not true because Pierce/Allen/Garnett were kind of end of prime while Giannis/AD will be in peak of prime. Allen was 32, Pierce was 30, and KG was 31. While James will be older, Giannis will be 26 and AD will be 28. Also, Giannis, James, and AD as a trio is a lot more talented than Pierce, Allen, and Garnett. Also, those three were traded for and not recruited by - just saying there are quite a few differences. Pierce/Allen might have been top 10 players at that time as KG was the only for sure that was like a top 5 or 6 player. MVP Giannis, James, and AD a top 7 or 8 player is basically a superversion of that in terms of talent (not fit).

[othawhitemeat]

Because he was the best player amongst Wade and Bosh and he never get carried to his two titles in Miami. Not saying Giannis and AD will carry him but when we get to that Jordan/LeBron debate Jordan fans will have a field day putting an asterisk on his titles with Giannis and AD. That would really make sense of what Jordan said about not wanting to join Larry and Magic to win because Giannis and Davis are both elite.

Bosh was never a top 3 player in the NBA at that moment it was LeBron,Wade,and Kobe.

LeBron got carried in the 2011 finals and it was the biggest single player choke in NBA history. So no not carried in the finals wins, but he got carried in 2011 and still couldn't win.

LeBron's rep will take a hit if Giannis joins LA. He'd be "Mr Superteam" far worse than KD, who was inspired by LeBron. If Giannis joins LA, the league is basically a waste of time to watch.

You seriously blaming Lebron for superteams when the Celtics created a superteam to beat him in 2008. Then when the Warriors lose to him in 2016, they form a superteam to beat him in 2017. Lebron is staying ahead of the game because the Nets and Clippers will probably create a superteam to beat Lebron next summer or as early as this upcoming trade deadline.

The 08 Celts were created by GM and they were at the end of their prime. No other team has a top 10 player ever started recruiting superteams out of fear of losing. Lebron is really the one who started the recruit for Superteam because I'm scared and think it will be easy. Despite all the Superteams he's been on, he has won 4 (that Heat team should have won 3 convincingly). He tampered to get AD, he has his friends being a sports agency to create advantages such as Harrell taking a Supercut, etc... It is old. Yes the 07/08 Celtics were sort of a Superteam just as the 80s Lakers/Celtics/ 60's Celtics, etc.. but those were created by teams. Until the Lebron Heatles, has anyone tried to create such a Superteam because of being afraid to lose. He did it with Heatles, did it with the Cavs (then KD followed), and is doing it again with the Lakers. Whether it is KD wanting Harden, the Warriors wanting KD, or AD or Lebron wanting Kawhi and now Giannis is ridiculous. Like even when Clippers got beat, Lebron seemed to be breathing a sigh of relief. I'm sure him and KD are already afraid of the Nets. I mean they lost 2 games to one of the worst finals teams I've seen and without a healthy Dragic/BAM. Congrats you beat Jimmy Butler and some solid, but not ready pieces in 6.

[Jagic Mohnson]

LeBron got carried in the 2011 finals and it was the biggest single player choke in NBA history. So no not carried in the finals wins, but he got carried in 2011 and still couldn't win.

LeBron's rep will take a hit if Giannis joins LA. He'd be "Mr Superteam" far worse than KD, who was inspired by LeBron. If Giannis joins LA, the league is basically a waste of time to watch.

You seriously blaming Lebron for superteams when the Celtics created a superteam to beat him in 2008. Then when the Warriors lose to him in 2016, they form a superteam to beat him in 2017. Lebron is staying ahead of the game because the Nets and Clippers will probably create a superteam to beat Lebron next summer or as early as this upcoming trade deadline.

The 08 Celts were created by GM and they were at the end of their prime. No other team has a top 10 player ever started recruiting superteams out of fear of losing. Lebron is really the one who started the recruit for Superteam because I'm scared and think it will be easy. Despite all the Superteams he's been on, he has won 4 (that Heat team should have won 3 convincingly). He tampered to get AD, he has his friends being a sports agency to create advantages such as Harrell taking a Supercut, etc... It is old. Yes the 07/08 Celtics were sort of a Superteam just as the 80s Lakers/Celtics/ 60's Celtics, etc.. but those were created by teams. Until the Lebron Heatles, has anyone tried to create such a Superteam because of being afraid to lose. He did it with Heatles, did it with the Cavs (then KD followed), and is doing it again with the Lakers. Whether it is KD wanting Harden, the Warriors wanting KD, or AD or Lebron wanting Kawhi and now Giannis is ridiculous. Like even when Clippers got beat, Lebron seemed to be breathing a sigh of relief. I'm sure him and KD are already afraid of the Nets. I mean they lost 2 games to one of the worst finals teams I've seen and without a healthy Dragic/BAM. Congrats you beat Jimmy Butler and some solid, but not ready pieces in 6.

You use age as an excuse for the 2008 Celtics because KG and Ray were 32 which is still prime yet Lebron will be 37 in the 2021-2022 season with his posible big 3 with Giannis. Like I said, Lebron create the Heatles because he coudlnt beat the Celtics superteam.Plus age is a dumb excuse because an old Malone and Stockton whooped Kobe and Shaq and Kareem won finals MVP at age 36.

[ILOVEIT]

Legit question: Do AD and Giannis even fit/make sense on the same team? There is just no space there at all for these two to operate. LeBron's game is more and more on the block.

Of course Lakers would take him...but does he fit along side AD?

[Mr B]

What would be great for the league is if Giannis stayed in Milwaukee or if he signed with a team that is not in LA or Miami.


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[Emhoward]

If Giannas joins Bron and AD at all, it would be a travesty, but if the Lakers repeat (and they are the favs) and then he joins them, it's even worse than what KD did, which I didn't think was possible. At least the Warriors didn't actually win it.

And it doesn't matter how old Lebron is, if they repeat he was obviously good enough to be one of the best players in the league

[NO-KG-AI]

I don't think AD will operate at all based on what Giannis is or isn't doing. if Giannis is determined to go to the Lakers, he'll get there regardless.

[Mr B]

I don't think AD will operate at all based on what Giannis is or isn't doing. if Giannis is determined to go to the Lakers, he'll get there regardless.

It’s funny this is even a topic when you consider he’s already said he has no interest in playing with Labron. He wants to beat Labron.


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[reflex35]

I don't think AD will operate at all based on what Giannis is or isn't doing. if Giannis is determined to go to the Lakers, he'll get there regardless.

This is true.
Why do people or media think that AD will operate on what Giannis does?

It is such a nonsense.
AD is still young, at his prime, got his ring, has opportunity to get a second one...
Probably thinks that he's better and I probably does not see for it to be a great fit to play with Giannis...

Lebron maybe can have this idea on his mind - but just to have an additional season or two with those 2 to get one more ring.

But for AD it does not make sense at all.

[NO-KG-AI]

I don't think AD will operate at all based on what Giannis is or isn't doing. if Giannis is determined to go to the Lakers, he'll get there regardless.

It’s funny this is even a topic when you consider he’s already said he has no interest in playing with Labron. He wants to beat Labron.


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Eh. Almost nothing these guys say means anything until they sign on the dotted line.

[picko]

Legit question: Do AD and Giannis even fit/make sense on the same team? There is just no space there at all for these two to operate. LeBron's game is more and more on the block.

Of course Lakers would take him...but does he fit along side AD?

The fit would be fine.

Both are versatile defenders who can switch quite capably from three to five.

Offensively, Davis has an excellent mid-range and improving three-point game. Meanwhile, Giannis does his best work near the basket but often starts from the perimeter.

We should also remember that both players would play only 30 - 32 minutes a game and so they'd be operating without the other for most of that time, which completely removes issues of fit.

At the end of the day you have two versatile and hyper athletic bigs. It'd be highly effective, with or without LeBron.

[LightTheBeam]

God damn how much help do they need? 3 top 5 players together? Grow a sack AD

[akula1488]

AD + Giannis vs Robinson + Duncan, which is the better duo?

[DonaldSanders]

You seriously blaming Lebron for superteams when the Celtics created a superteam to beat him in 2008. Then when the Warriors lose to him in 2016, they form a superteam to beat him in 2017. Lebron is staying ahead of the game because the Nets and Clippers will probably create a superteam to beat Lebron next summer or as early as this upcoming trade deadline.

Yes, I'm blaming LeBron more than anyone. LeBron has been playing LeGM for a LONG time, all the way back to Cleveland.

1) That Celtics team was not created to beat LeBron, who had won a total of 0 championships when the Celtics big 3 came together in the 2007-2008 season. The Spurs absolutely destroyed the Cavs in the 2006-2007 Finals where LeBron trotted out a garbage cast of Ilgauskas, Sasha P, Drew Gooden, Daniel Gibson, and Varejao.

The Celtics did NOT need a super team to beat this squad.

2) That Celtics team is a borderline super team. They have 1 finals victory out of 3 appearances... great team but certainly not some all-time squad. The Lakers during the same period have 2 championships, they were the team to beat for both LeBron and the Celtics.

The Cavs had awful teams around LeBron, with LeGM playing a part in that. If you go back and research the Cavs there wasn't much they could do as LeGM/Cavs had bad contracts etc -- so LeBron actually wanted to go because the Cavs needed to reload big time after the players the Cavs got that LeBron wanted didn't win a chip.

3) LeBron's Cavs were a borderline super team in the same way that the Celtics were. Multiple finals, 1 ring.

[Coach Carter]

God damn how much help do they need? 3 top 5 players together? Grow a sack AD

Lebron too.

[iamworthy]

One day before training camp and AD still hasn't signed a new deal. That seems crazy to me.

[HMFFL]

By the time Giannis would sign on the Lakers you are talking what, 37-38 year old Lebron?

This is Klutch wanting to setup AD to keep winning rings after Lebron fades out of the picture and pairing him with Giannis is an easy way to do that.

Lebron would still be productive at that age. I expect him to load manage a lot this coming season. It's the perfect situation, too.
With the technology that's out and what he uses only held his body continue on. His genetics are obviously insane as well.

I think Giannis would be open to joining the Lakers but probably without Lebron. I hope he he continues to have the mindset to beat his rivals and the best, not team up with them.

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[Swish1906]

One day before training camp and AD still hasn't signed a new deal. That seems crazy to me.

Im guessing He is signing it tomorrow or they would maybe break the covid safety protocol having someone on the training court who isnt a signed player or staff

[John Murdoch]

I don't think AD will operate at all based on what Giannis is or isn't doing. if Giannis is determined to go to the Lakers, he'll get there regardless.

It’s funny this is even a topic when you consider he’s already said he has no interest in playing with Labron. He wants to beat Labron.


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He cant even beat Butler and some YMCA dudes