Marcus Smart: "Jayson and Jaylen, they don't want to pass the ball"

[patman66]

why would they pass the ball to smart for him to just brick it.

He is not saying he doesn't get enough touches- he handles the ball just as much as they do. he is upset about them playing isolation and allowing other teams to play defense more effectively on those isolation plays. The ball should go back to Williams and horford both very good passing big men and allow Tatum and Brown to move and make it more difficult for the D to switch. His problem is not them taking all the shots (which they should) it is how they are holding on to the ball and playing a obsolete version of basketball. And this year it is even more pronounced as Both are not getting the fouls called that the league used to give offensive players with the ball.

When Stevens left and the new coach was brought on, both stated that moving the ball was going to be a point of importance. 6 games in and they reverted by back to last year. The coach being new and finding his way must not have been firm enough with Brown and Tatum so Smart took it upon himself. When the team loses Smart is not on the court joking with other other teams players, He takes defeat a lot harder than most of the team IMO.

[DroseReturnChi]

So it wasn't Kyrie's fault after all.

Damn I've been telling people it was Kyrie's fault.

kyries pretty much easy target. the guys a transcendent talent but his weird personality is what turns people on.
i mean why the hell would you blame on a championship number 2 vet when its obvious it was tatum browns fault?

[John Murdoch]

Raps and Nets posters have more beef with celtic posters than Laker fans do now...crazy lol

[patman66]

"in this case "keeping it in-house" is utter nonsense. it's a knee jerk reaction. mainly smart is saying what everyone can already see. saying it made the issue "real". it's like "okay guyz, i said it out loud, now what are we going to do about it.

what you keep in-house is the inner squabble stuff that NO ONE outside the team has the right to know about

This

Guy having a fight with each other or the staff that stuff is kept in house. People post like Marcus never said this stuff in TOs huddle during games or in the locker room in the past this year or last and just took it to the media the first time this rose it head.

[Pennebaker]

"in this case "keeping it in-house" is utter nonsense. it's a knee jerk reaction. mainly smart is saying what everyone can already see. saying it made the issue "real". it's like "okay guyz, i said it out loud, now what are we going to do about it.

what you keep in-house is the inner squabble stuff that NO ONE outside the team has the right to know about

This

Guy having a fight with each other or the staff that stuff is kept in house. People post like Marcus never said this stuff in TOs huddle during games or in the locker room in the past this year or last and just took it to the media the first time this rose it head.

Nope. Smart definitely should not have said anything like that publicly. This problem happens every day on a lot of teams and we never hear anything about it and certainly not in this blunt and rude manner.

Smart crossed a line that he knows he's not supposed to cross.

For him to take his beef public means that Smart has personal problems with Jayson and Jaylen. He doesn't like them and I would not be surprised if the deeper issue is how Jayson and Jalen are given special treatment by basically everyone (the franchise, the fanbase, the media and by opponents).

[Jazztop]

Neither Brown or Tatum are good passers but Smart might be the worst offensive player in the league.

[Triple M]

Well hopefully, the Celtics have found their identity and stay locked in on defence if they want to win games. The offense will have glaring weaknesses until they can address spacing and shooting.

[Lalouie]

"in this case "keeping it in-house" is utter nonsense. it's a knee jerk reaction. mainly smart is saying what everyone can already see. saying it made the issue "real". it's like "okay guyz, i said it out loud, now what are we going to do about it.

what you keep in-house is the inner squabble stuff that NO ONE outside the team has the right to know about

This

Guy having a fight with each other or the staff that stuff is kept in house. People post like Marcus never said this stuff in TOs huddle during games or in the locker room in the past this year or last and just took it to the media the first time this rose it head.

Nope. Smart definitely should not have said anything like that publicly. This problem happens every day on a lot of teams and we never hear anything about it and certainly not in this blunt and rude manner.

Smart crossed a line that he knows he's not supposed to cross.

For him to take his beef public means that Smart has personal problems with Jayson and Jaylen. He doesn't like them and I would not be surprised if the deeper issue is how Jayson and Jalen are given special treatment by basically everyone (the franchise, the fanbase, the media and by opponents).

theyve won twice since with DEFENSE, meaning extra fighting effort.

koinky dink? i think not. this team has no rudder. keeping it in the locker room is bs

[patman66]

"in this case "keeping it in-house" is utter nonsense. it's a knee jerk reaction. mainly smart is saying what everyone can already see. saying it made the issue "real". it's like "okay guyz, i said it out loud, now what are we going to do about it.

what you keep in-house is the inner squabble stuff that NO ONE outside the team has the right to know about

This

Guy having a fight with each other or the staff that stuff is kept in house. People post like Marcus never said this stuff in TOs huddle during games or in the locker room in the past this year or last and just took it to the media the first time this rose it head.

Nope. Smart definitely should not have said anything like that publicly. This problem happens every day on a lot of teams and we never hear anything about it and certainly not in this blunt and rude manner.

Smart crossed a line that he knows he's not supposed to cross.

For him to take his beef public means that Smart has personal problems with Jayson and Jaylen. He doesn't like them and I would not be surprised if the deeper issue is how Jayson and Jalen are given special treatment by basically everyone (the franchise, the fanbase, the media and by opponents).

Well, we will disagree. I don't think he has a personal problem with either, but he may professionally. He is not critical of thier effort, not playing hard, not playing D, just something that anyone who is a celtic fan has been screaming at his TV for the last year and a 1/2.

[patman66]

This

Guy having a fight with each other or the staff that stuff is kept in house. People post like Marcus never said this stuff in TOs huddle during games or in the locker room in the past this year or last and just took it to the media the first time this rose it head.

Nope. Smart definitely should not have said anything like that publicly. This problem happens every day on a lot of teams and we never hear anything about it and certainly not in this blunt and rude manner.

Smart crossed a line that he knows he's not supposed to cross.

For him to take his beef public means that Smart has personal problems with Jayson and Jaylen. He doesn't like them and I would not be surprised if the deeper issue is how Jayson and Jalen are given special treatment by basically everyone (the franchise, the fanbase, the media and by opponents).

theyve won twice since with DEFENSE, meaning extra fighting effort.

koinky dink? i think not. this team has no rudder. keeping it in the locker room is bs

they expect players to lose by play by some "code".

[John Murdoch]

Jaylen for Brogdon and Duarte /2nd

Gives C's a playmaker and spaces the floor as well. Pacers start the rebuild...basically saying hey we know u will never be the man in Boston with Tatum there but come be the man here ala Oladipo pre injury.

[planetmars]

Jaylen for Brogdon and Duarte /2nd

Gives C's a playmaker and spaces the floor as well. Pacers start the rebuild...basically saying hey we know u will never be the man in Boston with Tatum there but come be the man here ala Oladipo pre injury.

Because Brogdon signed a 2 year extension, making his contract 4 years in length, he cannot be traded for up to 6 months after he signed that extension. That would be March 18, 2022. But this is after the trade deadline. Which ultimately means that Brogdon cannot be traded this season.

Also if Indiana is rebuilding, I'm not sure they would want to trade Duarte who they got in the lottery. He's an older rookie, but still a rookie.

[celticfan42487]

Jaylen for Brogdon and Duarte /2nd

Gives C's a playmaker and spaces the floor as well. Pacers start the rebuild...basically saying hey we know u will never be the man in Boston with Tatum there but come be the man here ala Oladipo pre injury.

Because Brogdon signed a 2 year extension, making his contract 4 years in length, he cannot be traded for up to 6 months after he signed that extension. That would be March 18, 2022. But this is after the trade deadline. Which ultimately means that Brogdon cannot be traded this season.

Also if Indiana is rebuilding, I'm not sure they would want to trade Duarte who they got in the lottery. He's an older rookie, but still a rookie.

Would Indy even be desiring to trade Brogdon? I mean I know he's hurt 90% of the season but still.

I think Indy should rush to trade one of Turner or Sabonis, as obvious as a thing as every fan base has known since the trade one of Simmons or Embiid, then let the team play it out for half a season and see how the fit is.

As a Cetlics fan watching his team play 2 Centers in the starting lineup for 2 years in a row I know how horrible that is and how much a lineup instantly becomes better when you stop playing like it's the 1970s.

Also the Celtics shouldn't trade Jaylen or Jayson. They need to trade the dead weight around them and tank. Smart, Schroder, Horford, Freedom, ect.

[planetmars]

Jaylen for Brogdon and Duarte /2nd

Gives C's a playmaker and spaces the floor as well. Pacers start the rebuild...basically saying hey we know u will never be the man in Boston with Tatum there but come be the man here ala Oladipo pre injury.

Because Brogdon signed a 2 year extension, making his contract 4 years in length, he cannot be traded for up to 6 months after he signed that extension. That would be March 18, 2022. But this is after the trade deadline. Which ultimately means that Brogdon cannot be traded this season.

Also if Indiana is rebuilding, I'm not sure they would want to trade Duarte who they got in the lottery. He's an older rookie, but still a rookie.

Would Indy even be desiring to trade Brogdon? I mean I know he's hurt 90% of the season but still.

I think Indy should rush to trade one of Turner or Sabonis, as obvious as a thing as every fan base has known since the trade one of Simmons or Embiid, then let the team play it out for half a season and see how the fit is.

As a Cetlics fan watching his team play 2 Centers in the starting lineup for 2 years in a row I know how horrible that is and how much a lineup instantly becomes better when you stop playing like it's the 1970s.

Also the Celtics shouldn't trade Jaylen or Jayson. They need to trade the dead weight around them and tank. Smart, Schroder, Horford, Freedom, ect.

Indiana has been stuck in mud for the past few years. Blowing it up seems like the smart thing to do. I'm not sure who I'd have to keep. Brogdon has to be kept, well at least through the season, but he shouldn't be untouchable by the time the next season starts either.

As for Boston. Their assets aren't so hot anymore. I'd look to move Smart for a younger PG that is more of a facilitator. I could see some trade here with Sacramento who also needs to blow things up. Fox for Smart, J-Rich, some prospect like Nesmith or Pritchard, and a FRP. Time Lord is their future big man. Could look at the scrap heap for another big as a backup.. but Freedom ain't it.

[bisme37]

Jaylen for Brogdon and Duarte /2nd

Gives C's a playmaker and spaces the floor as well. Pacers start the rebuild...basically saying hey we know u will never be the man in Boston with Tatum there but come be the man here ala Oladipo pre injury.

I like this trade more than a lot of other stuff I've seen. But I'm not ready to trade JB unless it's for a clear upgrade. And as others pointed out, Brogdon can't be traded until the offseason.

Also this thread is annoying lol.

[art_tatum]

Just trade away smart. Problem solved ahahaha

[Karate Diop]

Just trade away smart. Problem solved ahahaha

Eh... Trading Smart takes way the 1 leader the Celtics have and virtually any semblance of toughness that they have. Without Smart the Celtics would be both leaderless and extremely soft... It also wouldn't fix the issue of both Tatum and Brown being unwilling / unnatural passers who can't create for others or make the passes required to keep the offense from going into long droughts in pretty much every game...

[art_tatum]

Just trade away smart. Problem solved ahahaha

Eh... Trading Smart takes way the 1 leader the Celtics have and virtually any semblance of toughness that they have. Without Smart the Celtics would be both leaderless and extremely soft... It also wouldn't fix the issue of both Tatum and Brown being unwilling / unnatural passers who can't create for others or make the passes required to keep the offense from going into long droughts in pretty much every game...

Fixes the locker room problem of guy that's complaining to play basketball. Then brown and Tatum can take turns chucking at will again aha

[celticfan42487]

Smart isn't a leader, he's a malcontent that jumps on the ground for balls in games.

Jaylen Brown is the Celtics leader. Horford is for some but to most of the team he's new.

[basketballRob]

Smart isn't a leader, he's a malcontent that jumps on the ground for balls in games.

Jaylen Brown is the Celtics leader. Horford is for some but to most of the team he's new.

The Magic will trade Gary Harris for Smart.

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