Let Danny Ainge Rot

[Swish1906]

Randle, Grimes, 4 or 5 first round picks... tell me how the Nets turn that down if they REALLY are looking to deal Durant?

Definitely would need a 3rd team, Randle has no value for the Nets if they trade KD. They want young cheap players for a tank.

Creativetran, you seem reasonable, is Randle a negative asset league-wide, ALA Westbrook? Or is there a third team out there that can use a Julius Rande?

No there isnt or Randle wouldnt be a Knick anymore

[Grubie024]

Am I insane or is Donovan Mitchell maybe the most overrated player in the league. WTF lol

some would say it is Gobert and your team just traded 5 FRP's and a pick swap for him.

So I've heard. People talk a lot.

[Big J]

going all in for donovan mitchell?

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I mean he's the same as Steph!!! Kind of crazy seeing that and Poole is sooooooo high, very interesting chart.

I wouldn't go all in for Donovan

Didn’t Curry just destroy the top defense in the league in the finals?

[Tukkerwolf]

Am I insane or is Donovan Mitchell maybe the most overrated player in the league. WTF lol

some would say it is Gobert and your team just traded 5 FRP's and a pick swap for him.

It's already 5! If the Jazz wait a couple of weeks more it will be 6 or even 7. Ainge is so good he increases the number of picks after the deal is made.

[BudTugly]

Mitchell has just proved he’s not a solo carry. He’s small and isn’t a point. He cannot dominate when the chips are down regardless of teammates. He’s aging. Also he chose to not play with another elite player. This player is not worth much imo. A team that is close could trade a couple firsts for him assuming they need a #2 scorer that doesn’t do anything else

[lambchop]

going all in for donovan mitchell?

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I mean he's the same as Steph!!! Kind of crazy seeing that and Poole is sooooooo high, very interesting chart.

I wouldn't go all in for Donovan

Didn’t Curry just destroy the top defense in the league in the finals?

Yep, props to Curry for elevating his game to 62% TS and 31 ppg against that defense. Somewhat of an outlier performance, considering what he was averaging against top 5 defenses. But that's what ATGs do. I wouldn't really expect Mitchell to be able to be able to do the same, but you never know.

[whatisacenter]

Am I insane or is Donovan Mitchell maybe the most overrated player in the league. WTF lol

some would say it is Gobert and your team just traded 5 FRP's and a pick swap for him.

It's already 5! If the Jazz wait a couple of weeks more it will be 6 or even 7. Ainge is so good he increases the number of picks after the deal is made.

this years first and unprotected firsts in 2023, ‘25, and ‘27, as well as a pick swap in ‘26 and a top-four protected pick in ‘29. Looks like 5 FRP's and a pick swap to me.

[Tukkerwolf]

some would say it is Gobert and your team just traded 5 FRP's and a pick swap for him.

It's already 5! If the Jazz wait a couple of weeks more it will be 6 or even 7. Ainge is so good he increases the number of picks after the deal is made.

this years first and unprotected firsts in 2023, ‘25, and ‘27, as well as a pick swap in ‘26 and a top-four protected pick in ‘29. Looks like 5 FRP's and a pick swap to me.

This years first is called Kessler. Are we calling players picks now? Is Bolmaro a 2020 1st, is Beasley a 2016 1st? Fine, the Wolves traded 7 1st round picks.

[whatisacenter]

It's already 5! If the Jazz wait a couple of weeks more it will be 6 or even 7. Ainge is so good he increases the number of picks after the deal is made.

this years first and unprotected firsts in 2023, ‘25, and ‘27, as well as a pick swap in ‘26 and a top-four protected pick in ‘29. Looks like 5 FRP's and a pick swap to me.

This years first is called Kessler. Are we calling players picks now? Is Bolmaro a 2020 1st, is Beasley a 2016 1st? Fine, the Wolves traded 7 1st round picks.

Zing, you got me. This years FRP, Walker Kessler, who has yet to step on an NBA court and is an unknown talent plus 4 future FRP's 3 of which are totally unprotected. Have fun with Gobert.

[SelfishPlayer]

The Knicks pursuing Donovan Mitchell at this stage of his career is like them making up for acquiring Steve Francis too late.

[BostonCouchGM]

Mitchell has just proved he’s not a solo carry. He’s small and isn’t a point. He cannot dominate when the chips are down regardless of teammates. He’s aging. Also he chose to not play with another elite player. This player is not worth much imo. A team that is close could trade a couple firsts for him assuming they need a #2 scorer that doesn’t do anything else

he's carried the Jazz as far as was possible given that roster. 36-5-5 losing in 7 to the healthy Nuggets when they had Jerami Grant, MPJ, Murray and Jokic. He's averaged 28-5-5 in his playoff career. Also, his 3 pt % goes way up in the playoffs (not including this last disastrous playoff series loss which I blame on everyone knowing it was being blown up and they were checked out) so he's stepping up. He's definitely capable of carrying a team on his back for games and a series. He's really dynamic. I hope he lands somewhere and has a legit surrounding cast so we can see him prove it again. MIA would be a perfect fit since they're about defense and Butler isn't aggressive offensively. It'd be the Mitchell show and I think he'd thrive. Same for BOS if he was to get traded there. I could see Ainge wanting to build around Jaylen Brown as he enters his prime. Might be a quick turnaround if that happened.

[Uncle Mxy]

Well you convinced me. I will let Danny Ainge rot.

That's been my sentiment since Ainge was a player. No change here.

[Drakeem]

Why is there MSG real estate in your head? It shouldn't matter to you since we all know KD doesn't want to play with your squad. With or without Mitchell or KD the KNICKS>Raptors.

Ah yes, the Knicks have had so much more success than the Raptors the last 20 years.

We've had more success overall and more importantly win or lose we are more relevant. And that's why you raptor fans are so angry and fearful as we rise.

Make sense why my life has been stress free since Ewing retired.

[Ball4life32]

The Murray & Gobert trades completely screwed up the trade market.

Neither of them were worth those deals.

People keep saying Wolves and Hawks overpaid. Maybe crappy firsts aren't worth what fans think they are.

Teams were afraid to trade 1st round picks for YEARS after what Billy King did in Brooklyn.

Franchises like the Hawks & Wolves have constantly teetered on the swing of mediocrity — and they’ve moved picks that are 5 years out.

All it takes is one bad year to convey a top pick.

Hawks have made the playoffs 12 of the last 15 seasons. (And 2 of the last 7 ECF) The only 3 years they didn’t they were clearly tanking. And they potentially only gave up two 1sts for Murray.

[TwitterFingers]

Mitchell has just proved he’s not a solo carry. He’s small and isn’t a point. He cannot dominate when the chips are down regardless of teammates. He’s aging. Also he chose to not play with another elite player. This player is not worth much imo. A team that is close could trade a couple firsts for him assuming they need a #2 scorer that doesn’t do anything else

Aging? Yeah I guess we’re all aging, but 25 is a good age for basketball player. It’s good that he’s a vet, and it’s a possibility that his best years are still ahead of him. Being 25 is a plus, not a negative.

When did he choose not to play with another elite player?

Scoring is important. If there’s one thing that im looking for a player to have ability in its scoring the ball. Besides Spida is a decent playmaker as well.

[OrangeBlueSkies]

Things are going to get very very interesting in UTAH over the next 2-3 months. I think Ainge showed his hand, and that was not such a wise move.

I've read deals that go something like Obi Toppin, Grimes OR IQ, cap fillers, and 3 first round picks. This sounds like the fairest of deals.

[CallMeKahn]

Things are going to get very very interesting in UTAH over the next 2-3 months. I think Ainge showed his hand, and that was not such a wise move.

I've read deals that go something like Obi Toppin, Grimes OR IQ, cap fillers, and 3 first round picks. This sounds like the fairest of deals.

Ainge practically showed his hand when he hired Hardy. It doesn't change the fact that Utah can hold on to Mitchell or they can trade him. It doesn't change the price that Ainge is asking for given market conditions. People tend to forget that Ainge can be quite the stubborn prick in these matters, for good or ill.

[iLLmatic860]

Things are going to get very very interesting in UTAH over the next 2-3 months. I think Ainge showed his hand, and that was not such a wise move.

I've read deals that go something like Obi Toppin, Grimes OR IQ, cap fillers, and 3 first round picks. This sounds like the fairest of deals.

Ainge practically showed his hand when he hired Hardy. It doesn't change the fact that Utah can hold lol on to Mitchell or they can trade him. It doesn't change the price that Ainge is asking for given market conditions. People tend to forget that Ainge can be quite the stubborn prick in these matters, for good or ill.

Which is good we have Brock Aller handling trade discussions. Hes well aware of how Ainge operates. I think we are perfectly fine going into the season with our current roster. Jazz should be in a bigger rush to get trade done

[OrangeBlueSkies]

Things are going to get very very interesting in UTAH over the next 2-3 months. I think Ainge showed his hand, and that was not such a wise move.

I've read deals that go something like Obi Toppin, Grimes OR IQ, cap fillers, and 3 first round picks. This sounds like the fairest of deals.

Ainge practically showed his hand when he hired Hardy. It doesn't change the fact that Utah can hold on to Mitchell or they can trade him. It doesn't change the price that Ainge is asking for given market conditions. People tend to forget that Ainge can be quite the stubborn prick in these matters, for good or ill.

Yeah, Ainge has a tendency and history of being stubborn. But no offense, that feels like an entirely different NBA. KG and PP were not going to demand their way out of Boston, it was not happening. All respect to D. Mitchell, probably the most professional "superstar wanting out" moments over the last decade. Look at AD, KD, Kyrie, Simmons, Harden, Harden, as just a few examples of stars raising hell on Earth to get their way. Mitchell, so far, has been very professional, and it's beautiful. I understand he's under contract, this that and the third, but there are very legit reasons for Ainge to make this deal sooner rather than later.

With that all being said, an offer of Toppin, Grimes, fillers, and three first round picks is a TON, "given market conditions". It's clear we have more to offer in our B-level package than any other team has to offer in their A-level package.

[sfernald]

It's starting to smell pretty **** here in Utah.. Someone needs to get Ainge's rotting carcass outta here!