Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

[ReddoverKobe]

At this point doing anything with a female co-worker beyond required work conduct and basic greetings should be keenly avoided by any man. Odds are entirely stacked against us in this day and age.

And before you quote me, no I don't give a damn what your opinion on equality is or your thoughts on why this is akshually a good thing.

I agree.

There will always be cases where they’ll say they felt forced to have a conversation with the coach/director/manager dude to a “power dynamic”, then all hell breaks loose.

Conversation=sex on here. Wild

[vulture]

Hopefully people will learn that actions have consequences.
With that said they better ban miles bridges for life.

That actually isn’t the takeaway I’m hoping for. There’s a REASON these people risked it all. And I’d bet it can be traced back to some mental health issues. I’m hoping the lesson is more about us asking WHY these things happen in the first place, instead of just reverting to “men can’t control themselves”.

I didn’t say that men can’t control themselves but I do agree that a why question should be asked.

People make bad decisions for different reasons.

[DaeDae]

You really should stop. The divorce rate has never been over 50%, peaked in 1982 (at something under 50%), and has generally been declining for the last 40 years. I can’t speak to how the pandemic years have gone (I haven’t examined the data), but generally speaking the entire foundation of your premise for marriage having an expiration date is wrong.

This response is so naive & ignorant, that’s its not even worth responding to.

How can any person currently living think that divorce rates are LOWER now in the age of social media, dating apps & no-fault divorce?

Absolutely silly.

What is silly is arguing against actual statistics with supposition. The divorce rate is as low as it's been and has been trending down for a while:

Source:

The biggest reason is that people don't get married as young and don't feel obligated to just to have sex. It lets people wait longer and find better fits. Early (first) marriages have a higher rate of dissolution than later marriages but there are less now.

Bingo. A little digging could have cleared this up. But we hold onto dysfunction because it serves whatever narrative we are aligned with in a given day, even if it isn’t truth. People are entitled to their own opinions. We are NOT entitled to our own “facts”.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Don't know the details of what exactly happened, but on a basketball note, I thought he did a poor job in the finals last season- especially bad strategies for guarding Curry- drop coverages on the best shooter of all time and switching Horford onto him are a recipe for disaster

[Antinomy]

If there are less marriages, then there will be less divorces; hence the RATES being down.

The PERCENTAGE of marriages that end in divorce has not gotten lower.

There is a difference a rate & a percentage.

Amazing that this needs to be explained.

“One google search” is all it takes lol.

[JDR720]

Honest Question: Haven't there been instances of WNBA players dating their assistant coaches?

Let me know if I'm wrong here.

This is the Celtics team policy. Not a league wide thing.

I do think getting suspended for a year for a consensual relationship is nuts though. Workplace relationships may be inappropriate, but they happen literally all the time.

[Flannerz]

If it's conensual and she isn't married to anyone in the organisation then it's ridiculous that he gets suspended.

[Zeno]

BTW, does this mean that Udoka is no longer one of the favorites to win coach of the year?

The coach's association award or the one from the media?

[Roscoe Sheed]

If there are less marriages, then there will be less divorces; hence the RATES being down.

The PERCENTAGE of marriages that end in divorce has not gotten lower.

There is a difference a rate & a percentage.

Amazing that this needs to be explained.

“One google search” is all it takes lol.

even with that factor, the divorce % has been decreasing since the 1980s

[Antinomy]

This response is so naive & ignorant, that’s its not even worth responding to.

How can any person currently living think that divorce rates are LOWER now in the age of social media, dating apps & no-fault divorce?

Absolutely silly.

What is silly is arguing against actual statistics with supposition. The divorce rate is as low as it's been and has been trending down for a while:

Source:

The biggest reason is that people don't get married as young and don't feel obligated to just to have sex. It lets people wait longer and find better fits. Early (first) marriages have a higher rate of dissolution than later marriages but there are less now.

Bingo. A little digging could have cleared this up. But we hold onto dysfunction because it serves whatever narrative we are aligned with in a given day, even if it isn’t truth. People are entitled to their own opinions. We are NOT entitled to our own “facts”.

This conversation is silly because you guys don’t know the difference between a rate & a percentage.

Kinda sad actually.

[djsunyc]

big fail on the celtics org for having this get to woj/shams before getting in front of all this.

[Antinomy]

If there are less marriages, then there will be less divorces; hence the RATES being down.

The PERCENTAGE of marriages that end in divorce has not gotten lower.

There is a difference a rate & a percentage.

Amazing that this needs to be explained.

“One google search” is all it takes lol.

even with that factor, the divorce % has been decreasing since the 1980s

It’s been flat, at best.

1st marriages = 41%

2nd marriages = 70%

3rd or more = 80%+

[Cubbies2120]

i don't think i've ever seen a white coach suspended for this type of crap

Which other coach was having sex with a female staffer (I assume that's what you mean by "this type of crap")?

[Inklink]

Ok but what does Lebron think???!!! We must know

[Ballerhogger]

Honest Question: Haven't there been instances of WNBA players dating their assistant coaches?

Let me know if I'm wrong here.

This is the Celtics team policy. Not a league wide thing.

I do think getting suspended for a year for a consensual relationship is nuts though. Workplace relationships may be inappropriate, but they happen literally all the time.

has to be more this.

[DaeDae]

This whole situation just shows the importance of getting women out of the workplace!!!! This is a man's world, and stuff like this wouldn't happen if those women weren't around causing all these problems!!!!!


LOL!! Yes, of course I'm kidding!!!!! (just want to be sure people know this is not a serious post, so they don't come after me with pitchforks!!! - just having a bit of fun in spite of another bad bit of news out of the Celtics camp)
Actually, you know what might be interesting, if Boston hires a female coach to fill in for the year - now wouldn't that be something!!!

A player who leads you to the Finals like Tatum, Brown wouldn’t be suspended if any did this personally with a a staff member.

I agree.

[talha_raps]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

[nikster]

This response is so naive & ignorant, that’s its not even worth responding to.

How can any person currently living think that divorce rates are LOWER now in the age of social media, dating apps & no-fault divorce?

Absolutely silly.

And yet, not only did you respond, but you did so incorrectly. Instead of actually LOOKING AT THE DATA for marriage rates and divorce rates, you doubled down. I’ve studied the marriage and divorce rates for years and the data is as easy to find as 5 minutes in a search bar.

To answer you question: simply because people are marrying later, with more to lose and are being much more careful about getting married in the first place.

This will be my final comment on this as it’s silly to argue something so easily disproven with actual data, and not anecdotes like “I don’t hardly know anyone who has been married longer than 5 years”.

Lmao sure dude. I’ve “studied” it too.

Based on the nonsense you’re spewing, I’d guess you’re over 45-50 years old.

Things are much different now than you remember.

You guys are getting marriage rates & divorce rates conflated — it’s common knowledge that people are getting married later. That doesn’t mean they stay together.

You know we can look up the actual data and don't need to make guesses? Do you even know where that 50% number comes from?

Current estimate of marriage ending in divorce is like 30-35%. It's a lot lower among youth then boomers. People who wait longer, have education divorce at lower rates.

[Infinite Llamas]

“As if marriages have some secret expiration date”…

Uh, they do. Hence why more than 50% of them end in divorce — and I’m sure another large percent stays together because they’re basically forced to (kids, cost of divorce, tied finances).

Most people shouldn’t get married.

I only know a handful of people who are still married who I’ve known longer than 5 years.

You really should stop. The divorce rate has never been over 50%, peaked in 1982 (at something under 50%), and has generally been declining for the last 40 years. I can’t speak to how the pandemic years have gone (I haven’t examined the data), but generally speaking the entire foundation of your premise for marriage having an expiration date is wrong.

This response is so naive & ignorant, that’s its not even worth responding to.

How can any person currently living think that divorce rates are LOWER now in the age of social media, dating apps & no-fault divorce?

Absolutely silly.

I would say that divorce rates are lower because less people are getting married. The whole foundational family archetype isn’t as promoted as it once was. I don’t know the statistics on it but it would make sense to me in this day and age.

But I know a lot of people that have been married five years or longer. Just because your circle of friends is infested with scoundrels and ne’erdowells doesn’t mean it’s reflective of society as a whole.

[Battletrigger]

Well, Rosa's was fired for the same, so one season is quite softer.

very different, since Wolves weren't successfull, and new owners wanted to cleanhouse anyways

The facts were quite similar, only lack of values can be different.