Brunson-led Knicks look like the real deal

[JShuttlesworth]

The Knicks have two wins against the Pistons and Magic, both of which are widely considered to be bottom feeders in the East.

Are we really ready to say that the Brunson lead Knicks are the real deal?

@ Bucks, Oct 28 L
@ Cavs, Oct 30 L
vs. Hawks, Nov 2 L
@ Sixers, Nov 4
vs Celtics, Nov 5
@ TWolves, Nov 7
@ Nets, Nov 9

Talk to me after that stretch, let's see where they stand.

This is why I said what I said

..and the Sixers, Celtics, Wolves will be tough matchups. The back-to-back tomorrow night and the night after doesn't help

[cgf]

The Knicks have two wins against the Pistons and Magic, both of which are widely considered to be bottom feeders in the East.

Are we really ready to say that the Brunson lead Knicks are the real deal?

@ Bucks, Oct 28 L
@ Cavs, Oct 30 L
vs. Hawks, Nov 2 L
@ Sixers, Nov 4
vs Celtics, Nov 5
@ TWolves, Nov 7
@ Nets, Nov 9

Talk to me after that stretch, let's see where they stand.

This is why I said what I said

..and the Sixers, Celtics, Wolves will be tough matchups. The back-to-back tomorrow night and the night after doesn't help

Hopefully we can still get 2/3 wins from this stretch. Hawks, Wolves, & Nets were my picks for most likely wins from this stretch before it started, and I still think Minnesota & Brooklyn look the most vulnerable from that list.

...but does losing to better teams change anything? It's not like we're losing to teams that we're expected to finish above...though sooner or later that will happen too, just like eventually we'll beat some teams that are better than us.

This roster's supposed to be fighting with the Bulls & Nets for the 8th seed; not with the Bucks, Cavs & Hawks to avoid the play-in

[djsunyc]

with harden out now, they better not lose to the sixers lol.

[JShuttlesworth]

The Knicks have two wins against the Pistons and Magic, both of which are widely considered to be bottom feeders in the East.

Are we really ready to say that the Brunson lead Knicks are the real deal?

@ Bucks, Oct 28 L
@ Cavs, Oct 30 L
vs. Hawks, Nov 2 L
@ Sixers, Nov 4
vs Celtics, Nov 5
@ TWolves, Nov 7
@ Nets, Nov 9

Talk to me after that stretch, let's see where they stand.

This is why I said what I said

..and the Sixers, Celtics, Wolves will be tough matchups. The back-to-back tomorrow night and the night after doesn't help

Hopefully we can still get 2/3 wins from this stretch. Hawks, Wolves, & Nets were my picks for most likely wins from this stretch before it started, and I still think Minnesota & Brooklyn look the most vulnerable from that list.

...but does losing to better teams change anything? It's not like we're losing to teams that we're expected to finish above...though sooner or later that will happen too, just like eventually we'll beat some teams that are better than us.

This roster's supposed to be fighting with the Bulls & Nets for the 8th seed; not with the Bucks, Cavs & Hawks to avoid the play-in

I totally agree with your take, that's where I see the Knicks

I got the vibe from the OP's post that he saw them as something much more than that

[cgf]

with harden out now, they better not lose to the sixers lol.

Watch us lose to the 6ers before beating the Celtics

[cgf]

This is why I said what I said

..and the Sixers, Celtics, Wolves will be tough matchups. The back-to-back tomorrow night and the night after doesn't help

Hopefully we can still get 2/3 wins from this stretch. Hawks, Wolves, & Nets were my picks for most likely wins from this stretch before it started, and I still think Minnesota & Brooklyn look the most vulnerable from that list.

...but does losing to better teams change anything? It's not like we're losing to teams that we're expected to finish above...though sooner or later that will happen too, just like eventually we'll beat some teams that are better than us.

This roster's supposed to be fighting with the Bulls & Nets for the 8th seed; not with the Bucks, Cavs & Hawks to avoid the play-in

I totally agree with your take, that's where I see the Knicks

I got the vibe from the OP's post that he saw them as something much more than that

Fair enough. It is a huge fanbase that's gone through a lot over the years, so there are more people on either extreme and those are usually the sections of the fanbase that feel most inspired to start threads on the GB

But my interpretation was just that the impact from adding a starting-quality PG has us playing like a competent team. One that is still at a talent deficit in this stacked conference, but not the mess that we've spent so much of the past two decades being...which is why OP was so excited by the ball movement even without JB on the court.

[JonFromVA]

Hopefully we can still get 2/3 wins from this stretch. Hawks, Wolves, & Nets were my picks for most likely wins from this stretch before it started, and I still think Minnesota & Brooklyn look the most vulnerable from that list.

...but does losing to better teams change anything? It's not like we're losing to teams that we're expected to finish above...though sooner or later that will happen too, just like eventually we'll beat some teams that are better than us.

This roster's supposed to be fighting with the Bulls & Nets for the 8th seed; not with the Bucks, Cavs & Hawks to avoid the play-in

I totally agree with your take, that's where I see the Knicks

I got the vibe from the OP's post that he saw them as something much more than that

Fair enough. It is a huge fanbase that's gone through a lot over the years, so there are more people on either extreme and those are usually the sections of the fanbase that feel most inspired to start threads on the GB

But my interpretation was just that the impact from adding a starting-quality PG has us playing like a competent team. One that is still at a talent deficit in this stacked conference, but not the mess that we've spent so much of the past two decades being...which is why OP was so excited by the ball movement even without JB on the court.

Well, let's try to parse the op ... he first ponders whether the Knicks might surprise like when they got Rose and snagged the 4th seed, then he states they have two point guards anyone would kill for, he says the ball movement reminds him of the Spurs, he then asks the rest of us if we think the Knicks can surprise and seems to be wondering if their depth+chemistry can stand up to the top team's top-end talent.

So, while he's kind of all over the place, he is kind of fishing for someone to tell him the Knicks are for real.

I think in reality this is the time of the year where a typical over-achieving Thibs team playing their hearts out have their best chance to steal some games and while the Knicks have fought and been competitive they haven't been able to steal any games from presumably better teams so far.

Their net rating of +0.0 has them on track for 42 wins, which last season would have landed them in the exact same spot (11th in the East).

[iLLmatic860]

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I’m not saying Knicks are the real deal but Brunson has been great. Easily the best pg Knicks have had in years

[DaGawd]

we are mid

[R-DAWG]

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I’m not saying Knicks are the real deal but Brunson has been great. Easily the best pg Knicks have had in years

Both statements are true. I would just feel much better about things if RJ was dominating and we had open cap space instead of Randle/Fournier on the books.

[GeorgeMarcus]

Crazy this dude fell to the 2nd round after the success he had in college. He's a textbook example of athleticism being overvalued, especially among guards. It's a little more understandable with big men who are expected to rim run and protect the paint

[cgf]

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I’m not saying Knicks are the real deal but Brunson has been great. Easily the best pg Knicks have had in years

Both statements are true. I would just feel much better about things if RJ was dominating and we had open cap space instead of Randle/Fournier on the books.

Fournier won't be here for long and Randle's been good again this season...20.1pts, 8.9rebs, 3asts on 57% TS and his lowest usage rate since he was still a Laker

[danvato]

about a good time to bump this one.

[R-DAWG]

The Real Treadmill.

[8516knicks]

It's ship out Randle or RJ. We can win with one, not both. Also would help to have a scoring center.

[Lalouie]

in a parity driven chaotic season of too close games and upsets, where the nets and sixers are in 6th and 7th, and cavs/hawks/pacers are in 3rd 4th 5th, nyk is still below 500 and in 11th place and ahead of the four worst teams in the east two of whom have been missing their stars and the other two are just babies

i always thought "real deal" meant wins

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Crazy this dude fell to the 2nd round after the success he had in college. He's a textbook example of athleticism being overvalued, especially among guards. It's a little more understandable with big men who are expected to rim run and protect the paint

He was the one guy I really liked after falling or simply being considered a second rounder. I thought/hoped his skills would translate and he has an nba pedigree. It's amazing how he totally fits in as a quality starter, and guys get drafted as projects late in the first round or wherever who never end up as end of the bench guys.

[baldur]

new york knicks are just an out of date team. randle isn't a modern big, barrett isn't a modern wing. thibs still thinks it is 2012.

[stillgotgame]

Classic treadmill team, 38-40 wins.
Should call the play-in tournament the Dolan ‘chip because that’s as far as they’ll go.

[big-shot-ROB]

The future of teams is always tied to the kinda players you'll have to max. See the Blzrs VS the Warriors. And Knicks have been doing a putrid job on just maxin the wrong players. It's worse when you think they've done it through FA out of desperation.