WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers

[Revived]

The Lakers desire for Wizards players is pretty interesting. Westbrook, Brown Jr, Bryant and now Hachimura.

One more 2 guard from them and they can have an all-Wiz lineup on the court at times.

[Ayt]

What are the Wizards doing? What am I missing with Rui?

He sucks.

[PhilBlackson]

At the costs of a bunch of meaningless SRPs, it's not much of a cost take a flyer on potential 3+D prospect that the Lakers can also then easily retain moving forward.

[Dr Aki]

Next is to trade Bev+Lonnie+1st for an all star type wing.

Maybe Bev and Jones + FRP for Turner?

[Revived]

Next is to trade Bev+Lonnie+1st for an all star type wing.

Maybe Bev and Jones + FRP for Turner?

Turner isn’t a wing.

[zimpy27]

Next is to trade Bev+Lonnie+1st for an all star type wing.

Maybe Bev and Jones + FRP for Turner?

Lakers have no strong need to make a trade before deadline now that they've fixed their rosters size problem.

Expecting they put out an offer of Westbrook+LAL27FRP(unprotected)+LAL26swap for several strong packages and just see if anyone bites at the deadline.

I think Lakers have taken back leverage by making this early trade.

[Dr Aki]

Next is to trade Bev+Lonnie+1st for an all star type wing.

Maybe Bev and Jones + FRP for Turner?

Turner isn’t a wing.

We just got a wing, we need a rim defender now

Myles Turner being a threat from distance would be icing on the cake

[Dr Aki]

Next is to trade Bev+Lonnie+1st for an all star type wing.

Maybe Bev and Jones + FRP for Turner?

Lakers have no strong need to make a trade before deadline now that they've fixed their rosters size problem.

Expecting they put out an offer of Westbrook+LAL27FRP(unprotected)+LAL26swap for several strong packages and just see if anyone bites at the deadline.

I think Lakers have taken back leverage by making this early trade.

There's still holes in the roster, but this staves off the boo boys until we know what the Lakers really need after AD comes back into the lineup

Damion Jones has been an afterthought at backup center and there's a still a real need for deadeye shooting to space the floor.

That's a Myles Turner sized hole waiting to be filled

[lonzo_pelota]

Should’ve gotten cam reddish instead

lakers gave the least possible trade fodder to get rui
apparently the knicks didnt see Kenrick nunn as their savior like the wizards do

[CP War Hawks]

I generally like Rui but he needs the right environment to thrive. He kind of struggled mentally in DC of all places, LA will have him contemplating going back to Japan.

[zimpy27]

Maybe Bev and Jones + FRP for Turner?

Lakers have no strong need to make a trade before deadline now that they've fixed their rosters size problem.

Expecting they put out an offer of Westbrook+LAL27FRP(unprotected)+LAL26swap for several strong packages and just see if anyone bites at the deadline.

I think Lakers have taken back leverage by making this early trade.

There's still holes in the roster, but this staves off the boo boys until we know what the Lakers really need after AD comes back into the lineup

Damion Jones has been an afterthought at backup center and there's a still a real need for deadeye shooting to space the floor.

That's a Myles Turner sized hole waiting to be filled

2 of Lakers 3 best players are Cs (Davis and Bryant), so the Turner fit is clunky.

PF/C is stocked with LeBron, Davis, Bryant, Gabriel, Rui
SG is stocked with Bev, Lonnie, Reaves all being best there
PG is fine with Schroeder, Westbrook but a PG must come back if Westbrook is traded (FVV ideal)
SF still the weakest with Rui (a bit too big), Reaves (a bit too small), Christie (a bit too young)

[Ayt]

At the costs of a bunch of meaningless SRPs, it's not much of a cost take a flyer on potential 3+D prospect that the Lakers can also then easily retain moving forward.

3+D? He's a low volume three point shooter. His 5.9 3PA per 100 possessions would rank 10th on the Lakers, and he isn't a particularly good outside shooter at 34% this year and 36% during his career. He's a weird player because he has more of a midrange game, and he's an undersized power forward defensively. He also doesn't get to the line very often despite not being an outside shooter.

They didn't give up a lot, but they didn't necessarily get much back in return. He's a terrible fit with the Lakers roster.

[TheGOATWill]

Should’ve gotten cam reddish instead

lakers gave the least possible trade fodder to get rui
apparently the knicks didnt see Kenrick nunn as their savior like the wizards do

From the wiz perspective, they had like two healthy guards suited up last week. They're a turned ankle away from having to see if Ovechkin can log minutes on a 10 day.

[Up-And-Coming]

The more I sit with it, the more I like the value for LA. However, Hachimura is certainly not the best fit in LA. LA Fans have said they need size on the wing that can defend but he's been reported as a defensive liability and doesn't solve any 3 point shooting woes the Lakers but good value...the other thing that's crazy is the comparison to Kuzma. Kuzma is by far the superior player lol please.

Hachimura is not a prolific 3 point shooter (doesn't shoot them that often) but our analytics showed that the last couple seasons he's been in the +70 percentile on corner 3's. Mix that in with his age, size and positional need I'm hopeful he will fit fairly well.

interesting stat there - I'm curious why he doesn't take more of those than because his overall 3pt % is definitely not that great. Seems like he can become more of a specialist ala PJ Tucker from distance. He'll definitely get more opportunities playing with Lebron and AD

I'm not sure why he shoots above the break 3 pointers more often but conceptually, with Lebron handling the ball and AD down in the paint, Rui should find himself spot up in the corners more often for Lebron to throw too (which he loves to do). Similar concept as to why Lonnie Walker who is having a great 3 point corner shooting season at 43% and 100% of his corner 3s are assisted (normal for catch and shoot).

[Dr Aki]

Lakers have no strong need to make a trade before deadline now that they've fixed their rosters size problem.

Expecting they put out an offer of Westbrook+LAL27FRP(unprotected)+LAL26swap for several strong packages and just see if anyone bites at the deadline.

I think Lakers have taken back leverage by making this early trade.

There's still holes in the roster, but this staves off the boo boys until we know what the Lakers really need after AD comes back into the lineup

Damion Jones has been an afterthought at backup center and there's a still a real need for deadeye shooting to space the floor.

That's a Myles Turner sized hole waiting to be filled

2 of Lakers 3 best players are Cs (Davis and Bryant), so the Turner fit is clunky.

PF/C is stocked with LeBron, Davis, Bryant, Gabriel, Rui
SG is stocked with Bev, Lonnie, Reaves all being best there
PG is fine with Schroeder, Westbrook but a PG must come back if Westbrook is traded (FVV ideal)
SF still the weakest with Rui (a bit too big), Reaves (a bit too small), Christie (a bit too young)

All solved with Lebron sliding down to the 3, which he's there anyway, the Lakers are normally just playing Lebron as a point forward, with only other 1 big man on the floor with him because of poor roster construction.

It's less about positions on the floor, and more about complimentary skillsets on the floor.

Turner spaces the floor on offense/defends the rim on defense.

[kenwood3333]

Did some reading on why the Wizards gave up on Hachimura and in summary: injury proned, poor defensive awareness, below average 3 pointer shooter. The only strength appears to be his size. Maybe practicing against LeBron will help him discover a role.

[djsunyc]

Rui and Russ 2.0. Happy for Hachimura. Hope he does well in the purple and gold.

rui + russ + bryant 2.0

[nzahir]

There's still holes in the roster, but this staves off the boo boys until we know what the Lakers really need after AD comes back into the lineup

Damion Jones has been an afterthought at backup center and there's a still a real need for deadeye shooting to space the floor.

That's a Myles Turner sized hole waiting to be filled

2 of Lakers 3 best players are Cs (Davis and Bryant), so the Turner fit is clunky.

PF/C is stocked with LeBron, Davis, Bryant, Gabriel, Rui
SG is stocked with Bev, Lonnie, Reaves all being best there
PG is fine with Schroeder, Westbrook but a PG must come back if Westbrook is traded (FVV ideal)
SF still the weakest with Rui (a bit too big), Reaves (a bit too small), Christie (a bit too young)

All solved with Lebron sliding down to the 3, which he's there anyway, the Lakers are normally just playing Lebron as a point forward, with only other 1 big man on the floor with him because of poor roster construction.

It's less about positions on the floor, and more about complimentary skillsets on the floor.

Turner spaces the floor on offense/defends the rim on defense.

Yes and no

Can Turner, AD, and Bron hold up on the perimeter?

There is length, strength, and great shot blocking

But is there enough speed (and even hustle) to guard the perimeter?

Dennis/Bev and Reaves are a good group to pressure ball handlers and give effort, so maybe?

Not giving up both 1sts for Turner though

[BigDan245]

People are gonna laugh, but the Lakers aren't far away from contending in the west...The west is dog**** this year. Might be the worst I've ever seen it. Every team is live and a trade away from having a real shot.

[Dr Aki]

2 of Lakers 3 best players are Cs (Davis and Bryant), so the Turner fit is clunky.

PF/C is stocked with LeBron, Davis, Bryant, Gabriel, Rui
SG is stocked with Bev, Lonnie, Reaves all being best there
PG is fine with Schroeder, Westbrook but a PG must come back if Westbrook is traded (FVV ideal)
SF still the weakest with Rui (a bit too big), Reaves (a bit too small), Christie (a bit too young)

All solved with Lebron sliding down to the 3, which he's there anyway, the Lakers are normally just playing Lebron as a point forward, with only other 1 big man on the floor with him because of poor roster construction.

It's less about positions on the floor, and more about complimentary skillsets on the floor.

Turner spaces the floor on offense/defends the rim on defense.

Yes and no

Can Turner, AD, and Bron hold up on the perimeter?

There is length, strength, and great shot blocking

But is there enough speed (and even hustle) to guard the perimeter?

Dennis/Bev and Reaves are a good group to pressure ball handlers and give effort, so maybe?

Not giving up both 1sts for Turner though

Having both big men being rim defenders isn't a bad ploy.

And at least if Turner's man brings him out to the perimeter, AD is there in the paint playing coverage. And vice versa with AD on the perimeter would possibly be even more aggressive knowing Turner is in the paint to cover up for when he's beaten on the perimeter.

Ham asking the bigs to play drop coverage is a simple enough scheme to implement. If a team burns you from mid-range (the most inefficient shot on offense), that's a way I'm willing to lose by. Just gotta tip your hat and move on.

Also Bev would definitely need to be in the deal if the Pacers aren't taking on Westbrook.