Jontay Porter betting on himself

[jbk1234]

I think this story is way bigger then news outlets are making it.
It really does undermine the legitimacy of the entire NBA.

This is surely just the tip of the iceberg

Ya. You catch 1 but how many are doing it but just better? It's actually pretty easy to hide it if youre a player and youre smart

I mean you have to be on a tanking team and you have to be 11-15 on the roster for the economics of a point shaving bet to make any sense. Otherwise, the risk/reward doesn't work.

[Tor_Raps]

Crazy part was that Porter was playing well enough to earn himself a nba contract. I really hope it isn't true because the Raptors suck so bad that we need every fringe player we find lol.

it's true and he's gotta be the worst criminal ever
I mean taking a big enough position to make the Porter play with the most action in a given night, a player literally no1 even knows exists let alone is going to bet on..and then faking an injury both times after a few mins so the under will cash..

yeah, it's true..there's is literally no other explanation

this is probably a criminal conspiracy, maybe one of his buddies suggested it to him? I bet if they were this stupid then they were also stupid enough to msg each other about it on apps..dude is going to jail

I honestly have 0 sympathy for gambling websites. There's all this uproar when people win money but what happens when you have families ripped apart after losing their life savings? F them and F all these companies getting in bed with them.

[grimlock]

I think this story is way bigger then news outlets are making it.
It really does undermine the legitimacy of the entire NBA.

This is surely just the tip of the iceberg

Ya. You catch 1 but how many are doing it but just better? It's actually pretty easy to hide it if youre a player and youre smart

I mean you have to be on a tanking team and you have to be 11-15 on the roster for the economics of a point shaving bet to make any sense. Otherwise, the risk/reward doesn't work.

Ya, but you don't think these guys hookup their crew here and there. Common. Even rich ballers get caught shoplifting.

[disoblige]

Crazy part was that Porter was playing well enough to earn himself a nba contract. I really hope it isn't true because the Raptors suck so bad that we need every fringe player we find lol.

it's true and he's gotta be the worst criminal ever
I mean taking a big enough position to make the Porter play with the most action in a given night, a player literally no1 even knows exists let alone is going to bet on..and then faking an injury both times after a few mins so the under will cash..

yeah, it's true..there's is literally no other explanation

this is probably a criminal conspiracy, maybe one of his buddies suggested it to him? I bet if they were this stupid then they were also stupid enough to msg each other about it on apps..dude is going to jail

I honestly have 0 sympathy for gambling websites. There's all this uproar when people win money but what happens when you have families ripped apart after losing their life savings? F them and F all these companies getting in bed with them.

I agree but dont use it to justify him solding out his coach and his team.

[Exp0sed]

it's true and he's gotta be the worst criminal ever
I mean taking a big enough position to make the Porter play with the most action in a given night, a player literally no1 even knows exists let alone is going to bet on..and then faking an injury both times after a few mins so the under will cash..

yeah, it's true..there's is literally no other explanation

this is probably a criminal conspiracy, maybe one of his buddies suggested it to him? I bet if they were this stupid then they were also stupid enough to msg each other about it on apps..dude is going to jail

I honestly have 0 sympathy for gambling websites. There's all this uproar when people win money but what happens when you have families ripped apart after losing their life savings? F them and F all these companies getting in bed with them.

I agree but dont use it to justify him solding out his coach and his team.

no doubt, even if he evades criminal charges he'll be done in the NBA and probably in the states as well. I would think decent European clubs will steer clear as well, his next stop gonna be China..

[Yoshun]

When stuff like this happens people always try to think about it logically. I spent some time as a counselor working with gamblers. Ironically enough, many don't spend a lot of time thinking about things like risk/reward. They just gamble.

[oldncreaky]

When stuff like this happens people always try to think about it logically. I spent some time as a counselor working with gamblers. Ironically enough, many don't spend a lot of time thinking about things like risk/reward. They just gamble.

Good point -- anyone who thinks logically about risk/reward would act differently. But to those for whom gambling is a compulsion, by definition they aren't thinking logically.

[disoblige]

When stuff like this happens people always try to think about it logically. I spent some time as a counselor working with gamblers. Ironically enough, many don't spend a lot of time thinking about things like risk/reward. They just gamble.

People dont think what they do, they mostly follow their emotions.

[axeman23]

But absolutely- it’s so dumb to risk tens of millions to make $50k or $100k or whatever the split is. So dumb

He's 24 on a two-way contract. In no world is he on the path to tens of millions (or $100 million like that one guy said.) This IS his max contract, the poke-myself-in-the-eye parlay. In a way I can't blame him, watching those Maseratis and Rolexes flash all around and billionaire owners raking in dirty money while he has to settle for being a mere millionaire.

It is distinctly capitalist to bet on oneself.

And far from being the first of many, this is the trial run for the league to hone its PR cover-up skills.

his brother has enough for both of them so he doesn't have to gamble...

I'll just leave this here...

[ccvle]

When I read the title, I thought it was one of those stories where the player turned down a big contract so he can bet on himself that he would get a even bigger contract in free agency or next year.

[azcatz11]

When stuff like this happens people always try to think about it logically. I spent some time as a counselor working with gamblers. Ironically enough, many don't spend a lot of time thinking about things like risk/reward. They just gamble.

'How could anyone be so dumb to break into a business when they know there are cameras'

Same principle applies here.

[axeman23]

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More than I thought. No guarantees he was ever gonna make that much, he wasnt even signed after this season

He needed the money up front to get in on this year's crypto bull-run!

[axeman23]

When stuff like this happens people always try to think about it logically. I spent some time as a counselor working with gamblers. Ironically enough, many don't spend a lot of time thinking about things like risk/reward. They just gamble.

'How could anyone be so dumb to break into a business when they know there are cameras'

Same principle applies here.

Jontay on his way to the bookies:

[Tor_Raps]

I honestly have 0 sympathy for gambling websites. There's all this uproar when people win money but what happens when you have families ripped apart after losing their life savings? F them and F all these companies getting in bed with them.

I agree but dont use it to justify him solding out his coach and his team.

no doubt, even if he evades criminal charges he'll be done in the NBA and probably in the states as well. I would think decent European clubs will steer clear as well, his next stop gonna be China..

To be fair, Raptors management is doing worse things themselves this season. Have you seen how many guys have been sitting out lately?

They are showing 0 intention to actually win games and are blatantly tanking to keep their pick. I'd actually be pissed if he was doing this while the team was trying to win. Porter's intentions align with the Raptors management's intentions lol.

[axeman23]

I agree but dont use it to justify him solding out his coach and his team.

no doubt, even if he evades criminal charges he'll be done in the NBA and probably in the states as well. I would think decent European clubs will steer clear as well, his next stop gonna be China..

To be fair, Raptors management is doing worse things themselves this season. Have you seen how many guys have been sitting out lately?

They are showing 0 intention to actually win games and are blatantly tanking to keep their pick. I'd actually be pissed if he was doing while the team was trying to win. Porter's intentions align with the Raptors management's intentions lol.

And honestly, wouldn't LESS of JP on the court mean a MORE competitive Raptors team?

[Tor_Raps]

no doubt, even if he evades criminal charges he'll be done in the NBA and probably in the states as well. I would think decent European clubs will steer clear as well, his next stop gonna be China..

To be fair, Raptors management is doing worse things themselves this season. Have you seen how many guys have been sitting out lately?

They are showing 0 intention to actually win games and are blatantly tanking to keep their pick. I'd actually be pissed if he was doing while the team was trying to win. Porter's intentions align with the Raptors management's intentions lol.

And honestly, wouldn't LESS of JP on the court mean a MORE competitive Raptors team?

Porter is actually one of our better players simply because he plays a position of need. Raptors don't have any Centers so less of Porter actually helps the Raptors lose more, which is why I was saying both the team and individuals intentions align here lol.

[magee]

I think it's more an indication of him passing along team info about his playing time. This happens more often than people think. A lot of the "late DNP" is affected by the team Spreads and O/U's and when books adjust or don't adjust accordingly, it's a tell that they have info a certain player isn't playing.

The main issue in this case is if it didn't come from someone smart enough to cover their tracks about him saying he wasn't going to play or play a full game. And if someone found out it was him leaking his pt to help a buddy out, and that spread on a Discord, Telegram or Signal group chat, then his buddy is to blame and he's gonna lose his job.

He pulled himself out of games twice due to “injury”.

I didn't realize that he took himself out of those games. Makes more sense now. Thank you.

[disoblige]

I agree but dont use it to justify him solding out his coach and his team.

no doubt, even if he evades criminal charges he'll be done in the NBA and probably in the states as well. I would think decent European clubs will steer clear as well, his next stop gonna be China..

To be fair, Raptors management is doing worse things themselves this season. Have you seen how many guys have been sitting out lately?

They are showing 0 intention to actually win games and are blatantly tanking to keep their pick. I'd actually be pissed if he was doing this while the team was trying to win. Porter's intentions align with the Raptors management's intentions lol.

Nah, Barnes, and Poelt are truly injured. Barrett is probably depress losing his brother and Quickley losing his uncle. They will lose intentional or not. They wanted to enter the play-in until they lost Barnes for the season.

[JimmyPlopper]

I think this story is way bigger then news outlets are making it.
It really does undermine the legitimacy of the entire NBA.

This is surely just the tip of the iceberg

Ya. You catch 1 but how many are doing it but just better? It's actually pretty easy to hide it if youre a player and youre smart

I mean you have to be on a tanking team and you have to be 11-15 on the roster for the economics of a point shaving bet to make any sense. Otherwise, the risk/reward doesn't work.

even in porter's case, the economics still didn't work out for the risk vs reward. its a shame he wasted so much to gain so little.

[Johnny Bball]

I think this story is way bigger then news outlets are making it.
It really does undermine the legitimacy of the entire NBA.

This is surely just the tip of the iceberg

Ya. You catch 1 but how many are doing it but just better? It's actually pretty easy to hide it if youre a player and youre smart

Since the NBA is investigating itself, we will never know. They will though.