2024 NBA Draft Lottery Thread (Sunday 5/12 3pm ET on ABC)

[stillgotgame]

You can just talk to me if you wanna feel our misery lol

Hate to say this but Yall never should’ve traded OG. Biggest mistake by Massai imo

I don't think any Raptors fan regrets the OG trade....both him and Siakam will make too much money, and they weren't producing us the results (wins) that would justify the contracts.

Or your supposed big market owner couldn't afford them. Sad that he dumped your best 2 players and then tanked for the 6th pick in a terrible draft and didn't even get it.
Raised ticket prices too.
https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/toronto-raptors-comment-on-ticket-prices-increase#:~:text=Ticket%20prices%20are%20going%20up,Business%20Journal%20reported%20last%20month.

[rapstarter]

Could you see something like

Trae Young
for
#4, #8, Future 1st, capfiller

-----
Atlanta goes really young like OKC did.

Bring in #1, #4, #8 as a new Core.

Has any team ever gone into training camp with 3 top 10 picks that season?

That would be like Dallas trading for Porzingis, but worse. I get that it's a weak draft, but don't trade #4 , #8 AND future picks for a flawed player

[ChuckChilly]

Will have to do some research, but not seeing how Sarr is better than Capella or Okongwu considering his weaknesses. Im thankful, but what a bad year to get a number 1 pick.

Its also kind of crazy how the Hawks went from being a "terrible team that doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs" to being "too good" to receive the number pick 1.

[Dominator83]

Wait. A team that played in the play-in just got the number one pick. Isn't that what everyone wanted? To curtail this imaginary thing known as "tanking"?

I love it. I would rather reward teams stuck in mediocrity, or as we mock them around here as treadmill teams. Give them a chance to make a real improvement instead of the usual "only way to go get out of the middle is blow it up" mantra.

.. at the price of keeping hopeless teams stuck in the basement, even when they aren’t trying to tank?

Sign some vets, stop sitting guys with phantom injuries (like Charlotte this year and Portland the last couple years). It's not hard at all in the NBA to be a .500 team. Look at my Bulls year after year. Anybody can be us. Reward teams that aren't good but still attempt win-now moves and refuse to tank.

[rapstarter]

Hate to say this but Yall never should’ve traded OG. Biggest mistake by Massai imo

I don't think any Raptors fan regrets the OG trade....both him and Siakam will make too much money, and they weren't producing us the results (wins) that would justify the contracts.

Or your supposed big market owner couldn't afford them. Sad that he dumped your best 2 players and then tanked for the 6th pick in a terrible draft and didn't even get it.
Raised ticket prices too.
https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/toronto-raptors-comment-on-ticket-prices-increase#:~:text=Ticket%20prices%20are%20going%20up,Business%20Journal%20reported%20last%20month.

We were going nowhere with those 2 players anyway. What sucks is we didn't trade them sooner when they actually had value. Asset management post the championship season has been a disaster.

[Dominator83]

Will have to do some research, but not seeing how Sarr is better than Capella or Okongwu considering his weaknesses. Im thankful, but what a bad year to get a number 1 pick.

Its also kind of crazy how the Hawks went from being a "terrible team that doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs" to being "too good" to receive the number pick 1.

They could shop it around too and see what the pick can fetch.

[rapstarter]

Its also kind of crazy how the Hawks went from being a "terrible team that doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs" to being "too good" to receive the number pick 1.

That's how bad the Pistons and the Wizards were/are...

[BDM22]

It's not a crazy outcome given the percentages. It's just kinda crazy that the odds are setup like that.

falling to 5th 3 years in a row actually is very unlikely given the odds, less than 10%

That's more likely than any other outcome though, by far (if we're talking any of 5-7 in 2022).

Don't think that's true. They've had over a 50% chance at landing top-4 in each of the last 2 years. That means they had over a 75% chance at landing in the top 4 at least ONCE in the last 2 drafts. Hitting 5th twice was something like 23% odds.

[shrink]

I love it. I would rather reward teams stuck in mediocrity, or as we mock them around here as treadmill teams. Give them a chance to make a real improvement instead of the usual "only way to go get out of the middle is blow it up" mantra.

.. at the price of keeping hopeless teams stuck in the basement, even when they aren’t trying to tank?

Sign some vets, stop sitting guys with phantom injuries (like Charlotte this year and Portland the last couple years). It's not hard at all in the NBA to be a .500 team. Look at my Bulls year after year. Anybody can be us. Reward teams that aren't good but still attempt win-now moves and refuse to tank.

Again, DET didn’t tank. It WAS hard for them to be a .500 team. You believe ATL is more deserving of a top pick than DET?

[Kiss of Death]

Read on Twitter

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[JDR720]

If the Hawks are going to move on from Trae, picking Topic would be a good bet.

[Dominator83]

.. at the price of keeping hopeless teams stuck in the basement, even when they aren’t trying to tank?

Sign some vets, stop sitting guys with phantom injuries (like Charlotte this year and Portland the last couple years). It's not hard at all in the NBA to be a .500 team. Look at my Bulls year after year. Anybody can be us. Reward teams that aren't good but still attempt win-now moves and refuse to tank.

Again, DET didn’t tank. You believe ATL is more deserving of a top pick than DET?

Both teams are equally going nowhere without it. Hell in this draft, still might not go anywhere even with it

[NyKnicks1714]

falling to 5th 3 years in a row actually is very unlikely given the odds, less than 10%

That's more likely than any other outcome though, by far (if we're talking any of 5-7 in 2022).

Don't think that's true. They've had over a 50% chance at landing top-4 in each of the last 2 years. That means they had over a 75% chance at landing in the top of at least ONCE in the last 2 drafts. Hitting 5th twice was something like 23% odds.

At least that's how I think it works.

If you're combining 1-4, yes. I'm talking about individual positions.

[BigGargamel]

Read on Twitter

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This isn't a great draft but a top 3 pick would still be valuable to a rebuilding team.

As a Rockets fan, which player on a losing-ish team would you be looking at?

[jayu70]

Could you see something like

Trae Young
for
#4, #8, Future 1st, capfiller

-----
Atlanta goes really young like OKC did.

Bring in #1, #4, #8 as a new Core.

Has any team ever gone into training camp with 3 top 10 picks that season?

Everyone is calling this a bad draft but the Hawks should take 3 of them????

[BDM22]

Could you see something like

Trae Young
for
#4, #8, Future 1st, capfiller

-----
Atlanta goes really young like OKC did.

Bring in #1, #4, #8 as a new Core.

Has any team ever gone into training camp with 3 top 10 picks that season?

Everyone is calling this a bad draft but the Hawks should take 3 of them????

There's gonna be at least a couple of stars in there. If you've got that many picks at the top you've got a decent shot at finding them lol

[Rainwater]

Will have to do some research, but not seeing how Sarr is better than Capella or Okongwu considering his weaknesses. Im thankful, but what a bad year to get a number 1 pick.

Its also kind of crazy how the Hawks went from being a "terrible team that doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs" to being "too good" to receive the number pick 1.

I think the argument is that there are teams who are in a worse situation than the hawks that need the pick like the Pistons. It’s not that the Hawks are any good but they are sure better than Portland and Detroit.

[shrink]

Sign some vets, stop sitting guys with phantom injuries (like Charlotte this year and Portland the last couple years). It's not hard at all in the NBA to be a .500 team. Look at my Bulls year after year. Anybody can be us. Reward teams that aren't good but still attempt win-now moves and refuse to tank.

Again, DET didn’t tank. You believe ATL is more deserving of a top pick than DET?

Both teams are equally going nowhere without it. Hell in this draft, still might not go anywhere even with it

I believe that it WAS hard (likely impossible) for DET to be a .500 team.

There is a limited amount of resources in each draft, most of that value at the top. Hawks fans have an okay product where they won nearly half their games. They are much closer to getting out of mediocrity on their own than the Pistons are.

[Chuck Everett]

If the Hawks are going to move on from Trae, picking Topic would be a good bet.

I'm not sure Topic would play over Bufkin let alone Murray, if they traded Trae. Atlanta is the last team that needs a PG.

[MagicMatic]

Detroit and Toronto

Sorry, maybe next year.