Mavericks ( Patrick Dumont) owner craps on Lukas work ethic

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Post#221 » by nbaguy1 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:08 pm

nvm this franchise. I looked in to this family and its hangers on. Before the Luca trade, I think there would be enough reason to not care about their plaything anymore already. Mavs are gone. Cowboy was shot. Was a great run:)
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Post#222 » by Handlez » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:15 pm

A deal was made between the League and the Adelsons/Nico.

They want Luka on the Lakers and they want Lebron’s last two years to be played in a team that’s contending. That’s all there is to it.

Do the Adelsons care about the fans? They don’t really have to.

Luka to the Lakers increases the valuation of the NBA’s upcoming TV deal and since TV revenue is shared equally, from the Adelson’s perspective it doesn’t matter if Luka is here or not.

Only matters that Luka is at the most profitable destination. Notice how no other GM is complaining even tho this was basically a bank robbery.

Like if two players in your mf fantasy league did a trade as lopsided as this, there would be hell to pay. But no fallout here? LMFAO sure.

Worst part is I believe they knew AD was done for the season before the trade. Why else would they waive a medical????

This is pure **** conspiracy theory time, but there might be a chance AD was loaded up on painkillers for one game, and it was predecided he’ll fake an injury around Q3 and walk off.

Just look at how they reported on his injury, Shams on day 1 said it’s a small injury no concern for the mavs.

Next they came out he might be out indefinitely. Next it changed to 4 weeks. Now they’re saying if AD elects to get a surgery his season is done.

Like come the **** on. This clearly is orchestrated expectation management by everyone in the media.

Worst part is all the astroturfing accounts that are going around on social media claiming AD is a win now trade.

LMFAO. No team with AD or Kyrie as first option is going past round 2.

AD couldn’t even take NOLA to the playoffs who in their right **** mind thinks he can be option 1 for a championship winning team

League and Adam Stern made this call. Everything else is window dressing
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Post#223 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:20 pm

Imagine a fat guy married to the daughter of one of the richest American families talking about "hard worker"...
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Post#224 » by phanman » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:33 pm

HomoSapien wrote:Anyone else feeling down on the NBA after this trade? It has pretty much nothing to do with Luka ending up specifically on the Lakers. I feel terrible for Mavs fans, but more than that I just feel like this trade was bad for the NBA product as a whole and that Dumont and Nico are bad for the league.

I have no skin the game and like you I feel terrible for Mavs fans but I don't see how this can be anything but a win for the NBA as a product. Especially during Superbowl week where the trade deadline dominated sports segments and multi-sport analysts were spending a large amount of screen time discussing the NBA when the biggest football was set to be played at the end of the week.

You have Luka Doncic in a Lakers uniform and LeBron being able to spend the twilight of his career with a guy capable of taking over the reigns he's had over both the city and organization. Bron's even played with a extra pep in his step which I think he knew going into the Knicks game as even JJ seemed to be aware. The Lakers still dominate the league in regards to content and likewise with the number of national TV games, which should only grow as Luka actually starts playing. ESPN even flexed their schedule to air the Pacers/Lakers game on Saturday even though Luka and Bron sat.
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Post#225 » by Prince187 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:37 pm

Handlez wrote:A deal was made between the League and the Adelsons/Nico.

They want Luka on the Lakers and they want Lebron’s last two years to be played in a team that’s contending. That’s all there is to it.

Do the Adelsons care about the fans? They don’t really have to.

Luka to the Lakers increases the valuation of the NBA’s upcoming TV deal and since TV revenue is shared equally, from the Adelson’s perspective it doesn’t matter if Luka is here or not.

Only matters that Luka is at the most profitable destination. Notice how no other GM is complaining even tho this was basically a bank robbery.

Like if two players in your mf fantasy league did a trade as lopsided as this, there would be hell to pay. But no fallout here? LMFAO sure.

Worst part is I believe they knew AD was done for the season before the trade. Why else would they waive a medical????

This is pure **** conspiracy theory time, but there might be a chance AD was loaded up on painkillers for one game, and it was predecided he’ll fake an injury around Q3 and walk off.

Just look at how they reported on his injury, Shams on day 1 said it’s a small injury no concern for the mavs.

Next they came out he might be out indefinitely. Next it changed to 4 weeks. Now they’re saying if AD elects to get a surgery his season is done.

Like come the **** on. This clearly is orchestrated expectation management by everyone in the media.

Worst part is all the astroturfing accounts that are going around on social media claiming AD is a win now trade.

LMFAO. No team with AD or Kyrie as first option is going past round 2.

AD couldn’t even take NOLA to the playoffs who in their right **** mind thinks he can be option 1 for a championship winning team

League and Adam Stern made this call. Everything else is window dressing


I agree. Even if someone wants to say “Dallas is just in love with AD”, which I don’t believe, they could have gotten AD, Reaves, Knecht, Rui, and a bunch of FRP’s for Luka yet they settled for pennies on the dollar. That only happens if they’re trying to help LA at the expense of their own team
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Post#226 » by Saints14 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:11 am

Handlez wrote:A deal was made between the League and the Adelsons/Nico.

They want Luka on the Lakers and they want Lebron’s last two years to be played in a team that’s contending. That’s all there is to it.

Do the Adelsons care about the fans? They don’t really have to.

Luka to the Lakers increases the valuation of the NBA’s upcoming TV deal and since TV revenue is shared equally, from the Adelson’s perspective it doesn’t matter if Luka is here or not.

Only matters that Luka is at the most profitable destination. Notice how no other GM is complaining even tho this was basically a bank robbery.

Like if two players in your mf fantasy league did a trade as lopsided as this, there would be hell to pay. But no fallout here? LMFAO sure.

Worst part is I believe they knew AD was done for the season before the trade. Why else would they waive a medical????

This is pure **** conspiracy theory time, but there might be a chance AD was loaded up on painkillers for one game, and it was predecided he’ll fake an injury around Q3 and walk off.

Just look at how they reported on his injury, Shams on day 1 said it’s a small injury no concern for the mavs.

Next they came out he might be out indefinitely. Next it changed to 4 weeks. Now they’re saying if AD elects to get a surgery his season is done.

Like come the **** on. This clearly is orchestrated expectation management by everyone in the media.

Worst part is all the astroturfing accounts that are going around on social media claiming AD is a win now trade.

LMFAO. No team with AD or Kyrie as first option is going past round 2.

AD couldn’t even take NOLA to the playoffs who in their right **** mind thinks he can be option 1 for a championship winning team

League and Adam Stern made this call. Everything else is window dressing


A week later I still can't come up with any remotely logical reason for this trade. The conspiracies like this one, the casino/vegas theory or Nico just being straight up xenophobic about European players honestly makes more sense than any basketball reason for trading way Luka
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Post#227 » by SFour » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:15 am

did Mavs FO and ownership forget they traded Luka to a Western team....they're just giving him motivation that would hurt them in potential Lakers vs Mavs playoff series, not just this season but for many seasons to come.
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Post#228 » by boogiezen » Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:00 am

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Post#229 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:09 am

Handlez wrote:Only matters that Luka is at the most profitable destination. Notice how no other GM is complaining even tho this was basically a bank robbery.


It's also no coincidence they decided to do this while Pop is recovering from his stroke.

The last time the league pulled this (giving the Lakers Pau for free), Pop made a huge scene.
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Post#230 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:03 am

AD was the only superstar the Lakers ever had to pay market value to receive lol. It was only right they use him to get one of the biggest fleecings ever. This isn’t a superhero movie, this is real life. The bad guys always win :lol:
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Post#231 » by Edrees » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:37 am

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Handlez wrote:Only matters that Luka is at the most profitable destination. Notice how no other GM is complaining even tho this was basically a bank robbery.


It's also no coincidence they decided to do this while Pop is recovering from his stroke.

The last time the league pulled this (giving the Lakers Pau for free), Pop made a huge scene.


Pop has no right to complain about the league conspiracies. The spurs got the #1 pick THREE times since their origin in 1977 and guess who was available as the consensus #1 pick in each of those years

David Robinson
Tim Duncan
Victor Wembenyama.

League may rig trades for the lakers but the lottery gets rigged for the Spurs. If you accept that the league is rigged then you can't really form a defense to the Spurs because you are acknowledging the NBA will decide where these picks go.
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Post#232 » by trickshot » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:53 am

Looking deeper there was actually some foreshadowing hinting tensions about his conditioning. This is after the finals from June 2024

https://thesmokingcuban.com/posts/dallas-mavericks-expect-luka-doncic-make-risky-decision-this-summer-play-olympics

From what Harrison said, it doesn't seem like the Mavs have any objections to him playing for his country, but things could get very interesting going into next season if Doncic were to get hurt at the Olympics or if he wasn't able to fully recover from his injuries that he suffered last season.



When he came out of shape and got injured this season they blamed him for it. I still don't think that justified trading him.
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Post#233 » by infinite11285 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:57 am

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Handlez wrote:Only matters that Luka is at the most profitable destination. Notice how no other GM is complaining even tho this was basically a bank robbery.


It's also no coincidence they decided to do this while Pop is recovering from his stroke.

The last time the league pulled this (giving the Lakers Pau for free), Pop made a huge scene.

Silver waited for Pop to have a stroke to rob Luka of $115M and the Mavs a superstar? And somehow brainwashed the entire Mavs FO to go along with it?
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Post#234 » by Blame Rasho » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:30 am

-Luke- wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
Luka is a Mav for life and I really wish him nothing but happiness and success in his career as he continues in LA.


English isn’t my first language but yeah… this makes no god damn sense.

I had no idea, but I just read that Rasho Nesterović is Luka's godfather.

Is Rasho to blame here, Blame Rasho? Is he somehow involved in this trade?


You can’t even Blame Rasho for this…and you can basically blame him for everything wrong in the NBA.
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Post#235 » by Onlytimewilltel » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:52 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:I actually miss Mark Cuban right now


Greedy Mark. Sold out the team he loved.
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Post#236 » by BigDan245 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:07 am

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Post#237 » by HMFFL » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:11 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:I actually miss Mark Cuban right now


Greedy Mark. Sold out the team he loved.
Indeed.
Cuban lost focus on life years ago.

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Post#238 » by wco81 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:08 am

HMFFL wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:I actually miss Mark Cuban right now


Greedy Mark. Sold out the team he loved.
Indeed.
Cuban lost focus on life years ago.

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At his age, any money he makes is for his heirs.

Lucky them.

The extra $3 billion that he netted probably didn't change his lifestyle that much, unless he wasn't flying private or didn't have a yacht.
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Post#239 » by The Servant » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:17 am

Most franchises make a Finals appearance about once every 15-20 years. Luka got them there year 7 after the FO failed to sign Brunson.

Nico went from Brunson and Luka to Kyrie and AD.
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Post#240 » by Parasite » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:33 am

uvlOzzy wrote:Talking about culture, but ... He didn't mention Dirk a single time !!!

This gives merit to a very specific theory that only a few Mavs fans pointed out. The new owners, who are known Trump supporters and donors, as well as Nico Harrison, who was involved with US basketball for his whole carreer, just couldn't stand to have a European guy as the face of the franchise. Especially not in Texas. ( As opposed to Mark Cuban who never had a problem with that.)

(+ now that Luka is gone Nico can claim that he built this team from scratch. Unless I am wrong Dwight Powell is the only remaining Mav that was not brought in by Nico.)


Btw. There is very interesting analysis of the whole statement on Mavs reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ilesur/mavericks_governor_patrick_dumonts_first_public/


What the hell does Trump have to do with this? I used to laugh at my uncle who was the first person who told me that people had TDS and it affected them mentally. He didn’t call it that because it wasn’t a thing yet, but he described it perfectly. He said they obsess over Trump, see him in everything, and it drives them crazy. And they don’t even know how dumb they sound because they generally live in echo chambers. This was years ago. He was totally correct.

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