Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins

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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#221 » by azcatz11 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:18 pm

CobraCommander wrote:
kg01 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Ok you guys are about to find out what bad coaching looks like-

Most of these coaches don’t even have a definable strategy- at least you know what Jenkins is trying to accomplish- and i checked - his playoff rotations are tighter and the starter minutes are up in the playoffs -

So you are frustrated that he A- gives his starters more rest in regular season B- gets more bench players engaged and developed in regular season C- do great with the play calls-

Hope the next guy is better at it but it’s unlikely


Yeah, it's more likely they're gonna learn they've been living in a coaching penthouse lookin down on all us peasants and commoners.

It's ok to want more but .... odd're against the next one being better.

Honestly it's more likely that Jenkins will go to his next job and make everyone wo Der what tf MEM was thinking.

The wizards will take Jenkins right now- Jenkins won’t be unemployed for long -


I'm wondering now if this was a Moneyball situation. The Grizzlies GM is an analytics guy. Maybe there was a fundamental disagreement about play style / playing minutes.

Cam Spencer also has been barely playing lately...it could be party because of him
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Re: Memphis has parted ways with Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#222 » by wco81 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:36 pm

Prince187 wrote:
EmpireFalls wrote:?????????????

After the season is one thing, but as you’re ramping up for a playoff run? What the hell are they thinking?


To make it easier for the Lakers


Right before they play the Lakers.

Another GM trying to help the Lakers ...
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#223 » by ConSarnit » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:43 pm

RingoKid wrote:
C64 wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
Can you give some specific examples?


Last night against OKC 4th quarter
JJJ hits a 3 (24pts) to go up by 2 against OKC with 7:41 left in the game .... 99-97
JJJ had scored the last 7pts for the Grizz 7-1 run for the Grizz
At 6:16 He's subbed out for Aldama (99-104) OKC has a 7-0 run really fast.
This is where former DPOY and last 7 points made is subbed out ... HERE ...
At 4:37 JJJ is brought back in (99-112) Grizz have scored zero points while he's on the bench.
Next possession JJJ hits a 3 but there's less than 4 minutes left, shiteshow, lost momentum ensues \Game over

That's just JJJ and just last night.


I remember when he benched Adams 2 years ago against Wolves and scraped by with his only playoff series win, only to bring a covid ridden Adams back to a squad that injured themselves going too hard in the first round.

The last Thunder game is a microcosm of that and indicative of how the post season would play out.

The guy will be lucky to get another NBA head coach gig and struggle to do much more then run scrimmage in a contending team.

China beckons...


This is a delusional post. Jenkins just turned 40 and has multiple 50 win seasons. You don’t think he’s going to get another job? Do you have any understanding how the NBA works?
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#224 » by ConSarnit » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:46 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Yeah, it's more likely they're gonna learn they've been living in a coaching penthouse lookin down on all us peasants and commoners.

It's ok to want more but .... odd're against the next one being better.

Honestly it's more likely that Jenkins will go to his next job and make everyone wo Der what tf MEM was thinking.

The wizards will take Jenkins right now- Jenkins won’t be unemployed for long -


I'm wondering now if this was a Moneyball situation. The Grizzlies GM is an analytics guy. Maybe there was a fundamental disagreement about play style / playing minutes.

Cam Spencer also has been barely playing lately...it could be party because of him


By all accounts their playing style and minutes distribution is a direct result of Iasalo. So their solution is to make that guy head coach? Doesn’t make much sense to me.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#225 » by Bad Bart » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:52 pm

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Dacost wrote:Grizzlies fan here aswell and the rotation philosophy of Jenkins is the exact opposite of thibs in new York.

Playing all his players less then 30 minutes a game no matter the situation was driving us fans crazy for years now and the players aswell.

Sure you get great story's of development like Scotty pippen JR however it makes no since for him to share the minutes with JA 50/50.

In my opinion Jenking is one of the best development coaches in the NBA but his x/o s and game plans are in the botton of the league.

Ok you guys are about to find out what bad coaching looks like-

Most of these coaches don’t even have a definable strategy- at least you know what Jenkins is trying to accomplish- and i checked - his playoff rotations are tighter and the starter minutes are up in the playoffs -

So you are frustrated that he A- gives his starters more rest in regular season B- gets more bench players engaged and developed in regular season C- do great with the play calls-

Hope the next guy is better at it but it’s unlikely


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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#226 » by C64 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:56 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:The wizards will take Jenkins right now- Jenkins won’t be unemployed for long -


I'm wondering now if this was a Moneyball situation. The Grizzlies GM is an analytics guy. Maybe there was a fundamental disagreement about play style / playing minutes.

Cam Spencer also has been barely playing lately...it could be party because of him


By all accounts their playing style and minutes distribution is a direct result of Iasalo. So their solution is to make that guy head coach? Doesn’t make much sense to me.


No, the playing style was LaRoche's plan, hired by Jenkins that goes away from PnR and is freeflow shift. Jenkins, LaRoche, And another were let go. Most of the team wanted to run Iisalo's style which is heavy on PnR and predicated by good defense and speed.
Jenkins was running some weird bastige version trying to marry the two, which was clearly failing after catching teams off guard at the first of the season.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#227 » by RingoKid » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:57 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
RingoKid wrote:
C64 wrote:
Last night against OKC 4th quarter
JJJ hits a 3 (24pts) to go up by 2 against OKC with 7:41 left in the game .... 99-97
JJJ had scored the last 7pts for the Grizz 7-1 run for the Grizz
At 6:16 He's subbed out for Aldama (99-104) OKC has a 7-0 run really fast.
This is where former DPOY and last 7 points made is subbed out ... HERE ...
At 4:37 JJJ is brought back in (99-112) Grizz have scored zero points while he's on the bench.
Next possession JJJ hits a 3 but there's less than 4 minutes left, shiteshow, lost momentum ensues \Game over

That's just JJJ and just last night.


I remember when he benched Adams 2 years ago against Wolves and scraped by with his only playoff series win, only to bring a covid ridden Adams back to a squad that injured themselves going too hard in the first round.

The last Thunder game is a microcosm of that and indicative of how the post season would play out.

The guy will be lucky to get another NBA head coach gig and struggle to do much more then run scrimmage in a contending team.

China beckons...


This is a delusional post. Jenkins just turned 40 and has multiple 50 win seasons. You don’t think he’s going to get another job? Do you have any understanding how the NBA works?


Do you have any understanding of what i wrote ?

I don't think he'll get another head coach job in the NBA but could in China.

50 regular season wins but only 1 first round playoff series win from 4 post season appearances in 6 years.

Contending teams want head coaches with better records than that.

Grizz are in their prime and should be contending with their core of Bane, JJJ and Ja.

Instead, they ditched Brooks and Adams who got picked up by a Houston that hired a proven post season coach in Udoka.

...and now The Rox are contending and legit while Memphis are floundering and pretending.

They werent going anywhere with Jenkins and his past record proves it.

What's delusional about that ?
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#228 » by Ambrose » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:59 pm

Ever notice how every team that fires a coach, the fans copout excuse is 'oh, well his rotations were bad'?
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#229 » by knicksfan974 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:08 am

Triple M wrote:Damn their offensive game plan was praised a few months ago for being unique


Introduced by Iisalo, the new HC.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#230 » by wco81 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:08 am

Ambrose wrote:Ever notice how every team that fires a coach, the fans copout excuse is 'oh, well his rotations were bad'?



If you go to EVERY team forum on Real GM, you see complaints about rotations.

RGM members think they have some special insights into players which professionals who get paid to manage NBA teams don't have.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#231 » by Special_Puppy » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:09 am

Ambrose wrote:Ever notice how every team that fires a coach, the fans copout excuse is 'oh, well his rotations were bad'?


Every team thinks they have a bottom 10 coach
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#232 » by Special_Puppy » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:11 am

wco81 wrote:
Ambrose wrote:Ever notice how every team that fires a coach, the fans copout excuse is 'oh, well his rotations were bad'?



If you go to EVERY team forum on Real GM, you see complaints about rotations.

RGM members think they have some special insights into players which professionals who get paid to manage NBA teams don't have.


In general the only complaints I have about rotations is when they play good players less than they should and bad players more than they should. Otherwise coaches don’t have that much of an impact on that area
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#233 » by Snakebites » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:15 am

There has to be a non-basketball reason. Even if you’ve decided he’s not the guy you don’t fire him right before the playoffs.

You fire him midseason or after the season.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#234 » by floppymoose » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:19 am

Ambrose wrote:Ever notice how every team that fires a coach, the fans copout excuse is 'oh, well his rotations were bad'?


Look at any game thread for any team in a loss. It will be “the coaches rotations”.

Edit: Jinx! Looks lime this point already made. Carry on….
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#235 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:23 am

Ambrose wrote:Ever notice how every team that fires a coach, the fans copout excuse is 'oh, well his rotations were bad'?
Except this was a rare instance where he got fired for being on his way to 50 wins while playing 10 to 12 guys every night lol

Sounds like Thibs would be the ideal head coaching candidate for Memphis
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#236 » by CraftylikeaFox » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:28 am

Big J wrote:If you watch the Grizz you’d know why they fired him. His rotations and coaching decisions are terrible. Smart move IMO.


This is a pretty common take by casuals. Not saying you aren't entitled to your opinion or that any of us watch the Grizzlies more than you do, but typically when fans don't really know why they don't like a coach anymore they just blame the rotations. As if Zach Edey getting 5 more minutes a game and Jaylen Wells coming off the bench is going to vault the Grizzlies into 1st place and magically solve all their injury issues. I heard this a ton with Mike Brown on the Kings. Suddenly a bunch of fans thought his rotations were terrible because he refused to start Keon Ellis and now wanted him fired. Well the Kings have increased Ellis' role and even started him a few times and we still look awful. The reality is the Grizz aren't a few minor rotation tweaks from being the favorite out West. It's a health issue for their best players. No coach is going to solve that.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#237 » by Statlanta » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:29 am

BruttoNostra wrote:Wait, an american coach gets fired with a 1st year euro prodigy coach allegedly being his successor, and there are zero "tHeY tOoK oUr JoBs" memes here?
I'm disappointed, guys.

We learned our lesson after Igor Kokosov succeeded Earl Watson and David Blatt succeeding Mike Brown so no memes.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#238 » by STAT_88 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:33 am

The Spurs will sign him they need a coach.


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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#239 » by Dacost » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:58 am

CraftylikeaFox wrote:
Big J wrote:If you watch the Grizz you’d know why they fired him. His rotations and coaching decisions are terrible. Smart move IMO.


This is a pretty common take by casuals. Not saying you aren't entitled to your opinion or that any of us watch the Grizzlies more than you do, but typically when fans don't really know why they don't like a coach anymore they just blame the rotations. As if Zach Edey getting 5 more minutes a game and Jaylen Wells coming off the bench is going to vault the Grizzlies into 1st place and magically solve all their injury issues. I heard this a ton with Mike Brown on the Kings. Suddenly a bunch of fans thought his rotations were terrible because he refused to start Keon Ellis and now wanted him fired. Well the Kings have increased Ellis' role and even started him a few times and we still look awful. The reality is the Grizz aren't a few minor rotation tweaks from being the favorite out West. It's a health issue for their best players. No coach is going to solve that.

That's part of the problem the players keep getting injured because they have to seat for long periods of time and are ask turn up at 100% when they comeback.

I understand why fans who just don't follow memphis are quick to blame the team.But they give him 6 season and never once improve his game management heis one of the worst in the NBA.
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Re: Memphis Grizzlies Fire Coach Taylor Jenkins 

Post#240 » by DaPessimist » Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:07 am

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