The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?"

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Do you think it was rigged?

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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#221 » by RoxSteady » Tue May 13, 2025 2:30 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
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Rainwater wrote:Why even call it a sport if it’s rigged then?

And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.

You mean how they awarded the #1 pick (Zion) to the Pelicans after they traded AD to the Lakers? Not rigged at all!

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Rainwater wrote:Why even call it a sport if it’s rigged then?

And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.

The counter-argument to that is since the Lakers and Knicks are already their biggest markets, they would rig it to prop up smaller markets with star players, to add more financial parity.


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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#222 » by doogie_hauser » Tue May 13, 2025 2:31 am

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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#223 » by Rainwater » Tue May 13, 2025 2:32 am

RoxSteady wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:
And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.


You mean how they awarded the #1 pick (Zion) to the Pelicans after they traded AD to the Lakers? Not rigged at all!



Raps in 4 wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:
And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.


You mean how they awarded the #1 pick (Zion) to the Pelicans after they traded AD to the Lakers? Not rigged at all!


Alright, good night guys.



Yeah, the amount of mental gymnastics to make this theory work is crazy to me.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#224 » by NbaAllDay » Tue May 13, 2025 2:37 am

What team winning would have made it not rigged?

This happens every year where people complain about it being rigged for X and Y reason yet could almost make the same argument for 5 others teams if they landed 1st instead.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#225 » by Raps in 4 » Tue May 13, 2025 2:38 am

Rainwater wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
You mean how they awarded the #1 pick (Zion) to the Pelicans after they traded AD to the Lakers? Not rigged at all!



Raps in 4 wrote:
You mean how they awarded the #1 pick (Zion) to the Pelicans after they traded AD to the Lakers? Not rigged at all!


Alright, good night guys.



Yeah, the amount of mental gymnastics to make this theory work is crazy to me.


The ones doing the mental gymnastics here are the deniers.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#226 » by Stannis » Tue May 13, 2025 2:41 am

It's hard to think it's not rigged.

Honestly, I get that the NBA is a business in the end. And there are some really bad franchises out there who tank time and time again. And maybe feels they need to rig things to increase viewership.

but at this point, don't even call it a lottery. This has happened way too many times now.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#227 » by Marvin Martian » Tue May 13, 2025 2:42 am

NbaAllDay wrote:What team winning would have made it not rigged?

This happens every year where people complain about it being rigged for X and Y reason yet could almost make the same argument for 5 others teams if they landed 1st instead.

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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#228 » by Handlez » Tue May 13, 2025 2:46 am

Imagine voting NO on the poll.

Why are people so delusional? Do they do it because accepting the evil reality of this world is too painful?
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#229 » by 52-12-7 » Tue May 13, 2025 2:47 am

Handlez wrote:Imagine voting NO on the poll.

Why are people so delusional? Do they do it because accepting the evil reality of this world is too painful?


There are bunch of naive people that believes we live in a free world.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#230 » by maxpower8888 » Tue May 13, 2025 2:49 am

RoxSteady wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.

You mean how they awarded the #1 pick (Zion) to the Pelicans after they traded AD to the Lakers? Not rigged at all!

maxpower8888 wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.

The counter-argument to that is since the Lakers and Knicks are already their biggest markets, they would rig it to prop up smaller markets with star players, to add more financial parity.


Alright, good night guys.


You asked a question in the form of why the NBA would do it in the first place. You got the answer as to why they would do it.

I'm not claiming it's proof of a conspiracy, but also let's not act like there's zero incentive either, or that the NBA hasn't already been involves in rigging controversies in the past.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#231 » by ChuckChilly » Tue May 13, 2025 2:51 am

maxpower8888 wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Why even call it a sport if it’s rigged then?


And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.


The counter-argument to that is since the Lakers and Knicks are already their biggest markets, they would rig it to prop up smaller markets with star players, to add more financial parity.


So pretty much any outcome of the draft can lead to a rigged scenario rather big team or small :roll:
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#232 » by ChuckChilly » Tue May 13, 2025 2:55 am

Can some one please explain to me how the Hawks got the number one pick last year? Was that just to throw everyone off?
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#233 » by maxpower8888 » Tue May 13, 2025 2:55 am

ChuckChilly wrote:
maxpower8888 wrote:
RoxSteady wrote:
And who can forget when the NBA rigged the lottery to have Zion and Ja Morant go to big market Pelicans and Grizzlies and leave the little guys; New York and the L.A. Lakers with the next picks.


The counter-argument to that is since the Lakers and Knicks are already their biggest markets, they would rig it to prop up smaller markets with star players, to add more financial parity.


So pretty much any outcome of the draft can lead to a rigged scenario rather big team or small :roll:


It's not about one draft, it's about a pattern of timely, improbable events.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 

Post#234 » by Handlez » Tue May 13, 2025 2:56 am

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IllMagic04 wrote:You can’t say it’s rigged AFTER the result. I didn’t see anyone saying they were going to rig for Dallas an hour ago. We’ve seen teams move up before. It’s not some new occurrence. The Pelicans moved up for Zion. Was that rigged too?


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Nobody said this because nobody thought the NBA would do this so OPENLY. That is the shocking part about this.


I just don't get how you guys come up with this stuff. Regardless of where Flagg went, it would have been claimed rigged.


Why are you lying?

If Flagg goes to the teams with the highest percentage of landing him, no one calls it rigged.

Wtf are you talking about?

Dallas does a trade compared to the BABE RUTH trade and people are losing their minds over how stupid it was. Then that same team with a 1.8% chance magically lands a potential generational talent that's only 18 years old.

STOP the BS.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#235 » by haosmoove » Tue May 13, 2025 2:59 am

So people actually think the owners collaborated with the league to rig the lottery? And why would 29 owners yield to one?

If people think the league did it without owners consent, it makes even less sense. It would be impossible to keep a secret for so many years with the amount of people involved. If there's even a smallest sign of foul play involved, the owners would be all over it to protect their investments. So if the owners didn't complain, what basis do we fans have to accuse the league of rigging the lottery?
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#236 » by maxpower8888 » Tue May 13, 2025 3:03 am

haosmoove wrote:So people actually think the owners collaborated with the league to rig the lottery? And why would 29 owners yield to one?

If people think the league did it without owners consent, it makes even less sense. It would be impossible to keep a secret for so many years with the amount of people involved. If there's even a smallest sign of foul play involved, the owners would be all over it to protect their investments. So if the owners didn't complain, what basis do we fans have to accuse the league of rigging the lottery?


But the Luka trade being a backroom deal isn't outside the realm of possibility? That trade was sketchy as ****, why were all the 28 other owners completely fine with not even being offefed a chance at a proposal?
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#237 » by shotsquatch » Tue May 13, 2025 3:19 am

How would they even rig the process? It's a ping pong ball lottery with a thousand possible combinations per pick. The room is full of witnesses and third party monitors. Ernst&Young, one of the biggest accounting firms in the world, supervises the entire process.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#238 » by Memories » Tue May 13, 2025 3:31 am

Even LeBron says his own draft was rigged.
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Re: The OFFICIAL 

Post#239 » by Ari_Emanuel » Tue May 13, 2025 4:11 am

SOUL wrote:
Ari_Emanuel wrote:In the aggregate, the outcome that optimizes for the greatest good/greatest number of people is one in which the league maximizes interest in the league as a whole and by proxy, television ratings.

Outside of actually creating a dynasty team, which is incredibly difficult and rare, especially given the new CBA, the next best thing owners can do to inflate the values of their franchises is to grow interest in the game.

There are heads of state openly profiting off their positions to the tune of billions of dollars - what makes you think officials won't arrange to add a couple ping pong balls here and there to push fate toward their most favoured outcomes? Rigging can be done much more subtly than you might think.


I hope you know this would imply that every single person is in on it at least a little - from front offices, to coaches, to players. There would be implicit understanding that this is the business once they come into it. That the NBA is nothing but entertainment and they're all benefiting from helping other teams when it makes sense, even if it means their jobs or roster spots.

Nothing is that ironclad. If people think it's actually rigged, which people have for a while now, there would be some actual evidence being worked on besides coincidences or being like "a player went to his hometown team!"


The NBA is a privately owned organization, as are the franchises, and the owners of those have been getting insanely rich off their investments. There is no incentive to investigate, and even if there was, there is no system of checks, balances, and transparency to ensure such an investigation would yield anything of merit.

Also, I refute the argument that everyone would have to be involved. That's like saying everyone would need to be directly involved in any corruption that happens in a modern corporatocracy. It's simply not true. Events can be soft-rigged, and the system itself ensures that enough people with the right amount of influence are benefiting enough ($$) to overlook unethical dealings.

As a matter of fact, that is exactly what is happening right now with the stock market and current politics.
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Re: The OFFICIAL "Was the 2025 NBA draft rigged?" 

Post#240 » by sunsbg » Tue May 13, 2025 4:27 am

Are you not entertained ? Even if you know NBA is scripted would you stop watching?

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