Describing SGA as a foul merchant seems extremely disingenuous.

[Yoshun]

If ref's are giving him the whistle, why wouldn't he use it to his advantage?

[Lo Wang]

It is a reality that I do not enjoy watching SGA.

I didn't say he was inherently not enjoyable to watch. I just don't enjoy watching him play, and a number of people feel the same way, for reasons that some of them have explained.

There's nothing incoherent about it.

Nobody should be forced to liking SGA's style of play. We all watch him and form our opinions. If you like watching him play, good for you, I'm not trying to convince you not to.

I agree you don't like him, but why weave a fictitious narrative?

It's not that I don't like him, by all accounts he seems like a decent person. I just don't enjoy watching him play, and him having a favorable whistle is part of it. Hunting for fouls by seeking contact has always been part of the game. But SGA has a tendency to fall onto the ground without contact (essentially dive), or lock other players arms and then flail as if he were shoved, that I simply find unenjoyable to watch. These plays shouldn't be rewarded because they violate the spirit of the game. And very few players in NBA history have been nearly as enabled to break the rules - formal or informal.

Maybe you're seeing these things differently and you think there's no intent behind these occurances - that is your prerogative. But there's no need for you to go on seemingly a moral crusade to tell people they're wrong for seeing what they see and feeling the way they feel about it.

I'm on no moral crusade; I am purely pointing out the inconsistencies and contradictions.

[Beethoven]

Yeaahh.. he's a foul merchant..

[Chanel Bomber]

I agree you don't like him, but why weave a fictitious narrative?

It's not that I don't like him, by all accounts he seems like a decent person. I just don't enjoy watching him play, and him having a favorable whistle is part of it. Hunting for fouls by seeking contact has always been part of the game. But SGA has a tendency to fall onto the ground without contact (essentially dive), or lock other players arms and then flail as if he were shoved, that I simply find unenjoyable to watch. These plays shouldn't be rewarded because they violate the spirit of the game. And very few players in NBA history have been nearly as enabled to break the rules - formal or informal.

Maybe you're seeing these things differently and you think there's no intent behind these occurances - that is your prerogative. But there's no need for you to go on seemingly a moral crusade to tell people they're wrong for seeing what they see and feeling the way they feel about it.

I'm on no moral crusade; I am purely pointing out the inconsistencies and contradictions.

My opinion on the matter is only inconsistent and contradictory to yours, not within itself.

You see what you see and I see what I see. And this leads to having two different views on SGA.

I think some of the videos shared by other posters since yesterday illustrate quite effectively some of my gripes, but perhaps you don't see those examples as being illegitimate foul calls, or violations to the spirit of the game.

[Lo Wang]

It's not that I don't like him, by all accounts he seems like a decent person. I just don't enjoy watching him play, and him having a favorable whistle is part of it. Hunting for fouls by seeking contact has always been part of the game. But SGA has a tendency to fall onto the ground without contact (essentially dive), or lock other players arms and then flail as if he were shoved, that I simply find unenjoyable to watch. These plays shouldn't be rewarded because they violate the spirit of the game. And very few players in NBA history have been nearly as enabled to break the rules - formal or informal.

Maybe you're seeing these things differently and you think there's no intent behind these occurances - that is your prerogative. But there's no need for you to go on seemingly a moral crusade to tell people they're wrong for seeing what they see and feeling the way they feel about it.

I'm on no moral crusade; I am purely pointing out the inconsistencies and contradictions.

My opinion on the matter is only inconsistent and contradictory to yours, not within itself.

You see what you see and I see what I see. And this leads to having two different views on SGA.

I think some of the videos shared by other posters since yesterday illustrate quite effectively some of my gripes, but perhaps you don't see those examples as being illegitimate foul calls, or violations to the spirit of the game.

Your position is flawed. You are basing it on short clips. I can do the same to any player and weave the same narrative.

[sikma42]

It’s not that he’s getting to the line a lot - good players like him do. It’s the way he’s getting to the line. He gets a whistle like no other. Which is absolutely insane because of how physical guys like Dort play on the other end

It seems pretty clear that they are letting them play physically as in defenders bumping players at the perimeter and such but when players are attacking to score and the defenders are chasing and slapping at their arms from a bad position they call the fouls every time on both sides of the court.

Okc was just much much more aggressive. If Anthony Edward’s drove aggressively as much as Shai I’m sure his ft numbers would be similar. He and the rest of the team settled for contested threes. That was pretty much the game.

We watched Ant in the Lakers series. He wasn’t getting those calls.


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[One Last Shot]

It's so frustrating to play this team because they foul a ton all the time and then you know you can't really touch Shai. It's a very frustrating thing and it takes a lot of mental toughness to try to play through it.

Watch on YouTube

[Lo Wang]

It's so frustrating to play this team because they foul a ton all the time and then you know you can't really touch Shai. It's a very frustrating thing and it takes a lot of mental toughness to try to play through it.

Watch on YouTube

Then put on those big boy pants and toughen up. It's the playoffs.

[Castle Black]

Safe to say Ant is not a fan of SGA's flopping.

Read on Twitter

[Lo Wang]

It’s not that he’s getting to the line a lot - good players like him do. It’s the way he’s getting to the line. He gets a whistle like no other. Which is absolutely insane because of how physical guys like Dort play on the other end

It seems pretty clear that they are letting them play physically as in defenders bumping players at the perimeter and such but when players are attacking to score and the defenders are chasing and slapping at their arms from a bad position they call the fouls every time on both sides of the court.

Okc was just much much more aggressive. If Anthony Edward’s drove aggressively as much as Shai I’m sure his ft numbers would be similar. He and the rest of the team settled for contested threes. That was pretty much the game.

We watched Ant in the Lakers series. He wasn’t getting those calls.


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That's because he's too scared to drive.

[bisme37]

It's so frustrating to play this team because they foul a ton all the time and then you know you can't really touch Shai. It's a very frustrating thing and it takes a lot of mental toughness to try to play through it.

Watch on YouTube

Then put on those big boy pants and toughen up. It's the playoffs.

Lo Wang, you just sent the mods a PM about how you can't wait to come back to the GB and have amazing high quality discussions, and so far you've trolled one poster with a line about Jeremy Lin and now you are baiting another poster with a line about big boy pants.

The ball is in your court as far as avoiding another strike.

[Bernman]

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. SGA acts like he was shot any time he's near a player to catch a case on them. It's shameful. I have no dog in the fight, but I hope it's not ultimately rewarded. He's got talent and he could try to thrive on that, like Ant. I understand his frustration.

[Lo Wang]

Safe to say Ant is not a fan of SGA's flopping.

Read on Twitter

Naw Ant's just frustrated because he feels he's facing a superior player and the realization he can do nothing about it.

[DusterBuster]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3545631/shai-gilgeous-alexander-put-on-a-masterclass-in-being-the-most-unwatchable-nba-super-star-perhaps-ever

Yup

[Chanel Bomber]

I'm on no moral crusade; I am purely pointing out the inconsistencies and contradictions.

My opinion on the matter is only inconsistent and contradictory to yours, not within itself.

You see what you see and I see what I see. And this leads to having two different views on SGA.

I think some of the videos shared by other posters since yesterday illustrate quite effectively some of my gripes, but perhaps you don't see those examples as being illegitimate foul calls, or violations to the spirit of the game.

Your position is flawed. You are basing it on short clips. I can do the same to any player and weave the same narrative.

I have seen enough of SGA beyond clips to form my own thoughts, thank you.

I don't want to dislike SGA. I would prefer to enjoy watching one of the best players in the league. I don't because I dislike some of what I see when I watch OKC play.

[Lo Wang]

It's so frustrating to play this team because they foul a ton all the time and then you know you can't really touch Shai. It's a very frustrating thing and it takes a lot of mental toughness to try to play through it.

Watch on YouTube

Then put on those big boy pants and toughen up. It's the playoffs.

Lo Wang, you just sent the mods a PM about how you can't wait to come back to the GB and have amazing high quality discussions, and so far you've trolled one poster with a line about Jeremy Lin and now you are baiting another poster with a line about big boy pants.

The ball is in your court as far as avoiding another strike.

How is telling the coach of the Twolves a personal insult? If he wants to stay in the series, he needs to toughen up and focus on his team instead of making up excuses.

Unless he really is Jeremy Lin, how is that a personal attack?

[Ckay]

[sikma42]

It seems pretty clear that they are letting them play physically as in defenders bumping players at the perimeter and such but when players are attacking to score and the defenders are chasing and slapping at their arms from a bad position they call the fouls every time on both sides of the court.

Okc was just much much more aggressive. If Anthony Edward’s drove aggressively as much as Shai I’m sure his ft numbers would be similar. He and the rest of the team settled for contested threes. That was pretty much the game.

We watched Ant in the Lakers series. He wasn’t getting those calls.


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That's because he's too scared to drive.

He was getting blatantly fouled at the rim.

[Lo Wang]

We watched Ant in the Lakers series. He wasn’t getting those calls.


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That's because he's too scared to drive.

He was getting blatantly fouled at the rim.

I know but SGA is always driving while Ant is too scared. I mean if he's chucking up 3s ofc he's not going to get the same calls as the guy who consistently drives.

[Enso]

FTA might be the best nickname in a long time, was it just invented on Realgm yesterday or it's been a thing for a while? lol