G35 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:socal74 wrote:who gives a **** as long as he's being recognized. You sound like some "me too" bitch
what is a me too bitch? lol
And yes, it's annoying seeing people change THEIR narrative over playoff games. It's not about jokic, but about seeing people flip their trash takes after seeing a guy do the exact same thing he did for 3 years do just that again with context outside of his control being the only change.
There could be a lot of reasons why a player/team has more success:
- injuries
- matchups
- quality of teams in conference
This is one of the weakest years in the West imo. When is the last time a 6th seed and a 7th beat the 2nd and 3rd seed in the playoffs.
I think that you are assuming that people are changing their narrative because of the results. Just because a player/team has success in the playoffs does not mean people do not see the context. I think Jokic is a great talent and I see the comparisons of him being on the level of Shaq/Kareem/Hakeem, but I'm not putting him on that level even if the Nuggets win a championship. When Jokic got his 4th foul and sat out, what was it the last 5-6 minutes of the 3rd quarter, the Lakers blew their opportunity. They should have taken the lead and pushed it out to at least 6-8 points. AD didn't do anything and neither did Lebron. Mike Malone actually went small and the Nuggets defense was pretty good.
I would say the Lakers were disappointing by not coming out strong at home, when this was a must win game. I think Lebron is tired and injured and AD is just AD, he doesn't play to dominate and it shows up at the most inopportune times. I don't think Jamal Murray and Jokic is the next Magic/Kareem, Kobe/Shaq, Duncan/Ginobli, Jordan/Pippen, or Steph/Klay. They are the best of who is left......
Well I didn't call you out. The thing is people have argued that calling Jokic the best offensive center, on par with or better than Shaq and Kareem was insane. Even last year! I mean...Last YEAR! That was a narrative that people got upset with! When it was a no brainer those were his peers offensively!
And now after these playoffs, people are going to start considering that reasonable. Nothing has changed. But the narrative will.
And competition? That doesn't matter! Shaq dominated in a pretty good era pre give or take 96-97. Expantion hurt the league pretty hard in 96, but there were enough old guys still around to sustain it a few years. But his laker run was the worst the NBA was post merger. So to argue for Shaq in the most watered down era ever is silly. Jokic is going against a league with not ultra concentrated super team, but overall the league is as healthy (well not player health, as we know this is the most physically demanding era ever) and talented as it's ever been.