2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
Getting lost in the Ishbia monkey business, but this inexcusable from the referees, a clear foul, in a 3pt game, right in front of their eyes, on the place they are looking at and should be making sure the jump ball is properly executed
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Lots of shady stuff in this game.
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Lots of shady stuff in this game.
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I actually respect the gamesmanship from Ishbia in a weird way, even though I don't agree with his actions.
He's a competitor and he got caught up in the moment. I get it.
But people calling for suspensions and whatnot are wild.
Token fine for the owner and move on imo.
He's a competitor and he got caught up in the moment. I get it.
But people calling for suspensions and whatnot are wild.
Token fine for the owner and move on imo.
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"Mavrelous wrote:Getting lost in the Ishbia monkey business, but this inexcusable from the referees, a clear foul, in a 3pt game, right in front of their eyes, on the place they are looking at and should be making sure the jump ball is properly executed
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Lots of shady stuff in this game.
The Gordon put back dunk was a clear foul on KD too.
Should have been an and-1.
Not sure if superstar calls (and no calls) are shady though. Pretty par for the course for awhile now.
"I'd rather have Kevin Love spacing out to the three point line than anything (Karl) Malone brings"

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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
If Phoenix can find their offense on the road Denver is in trouble. If not, then Denver isn't in trouble.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
CIN-C-STAR wrote:The Gordon put back dunk was a clear foul on KD too.
Should have been an and-1.
Not sure if superstar calls (and no calls) are shady though. Pretty par for the course for awhile now.
The superstar is Jokic in this case, and he's the one getting robbed.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
CIN-C-STAR wrote:"Mavrelous wrote:Getting lost in the Ishbia monkey business, but this inexcusable from the referees, a clear foul, in a 3pt game, right in front of their eyes, on the place they are looking at and should be making sure the jump ball is properly executed
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Lots of shady stuff in this game.
The Gordon put back dunk was a clear foul on KD too.
Should have been an and-1.
Not sure if superstar calls (and no calls) are shady though. Pretty par for the course for awhile now.
But Booker and Durant were getting all kind of calls in their favor. Its not the secret or surprise who the League wants in the next round.
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azcatz11 wrote:Hsker4Life wrote:azcatz11 wrote:It’s funny the pro Ishbia ones are the ones hurling personal insults. I guess they like Kim kardashain wannabes and support this behavior. Really sad stuff
Are you okay?
I take it seriously because of Monica Seles…maybe you’re not old enough to remember that. You never touch anyone if you’re a fan
again again again, this is why there are rules about fans coming on to the court and as many rules about players going into the stands. Its very simple, don't contact fans. I consider what he did contacting a fan. There are no dead ball exceptions I am aware of. And right or wrong on the owner, maybe he was wrong for holding the ball or at a minimum in bad taste but there is no arguing what Jokic did was wrong period.
If it had been a few more rows up and jokic hopped over some seats to get the ball everyone would be calling Jokic out of him out of his mind but because it was the first row it was ok? Stay out of the fan area ESPECIALLY hostile fan area unless it a live ball.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
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azcatz11 wrote:Hsker4Life wrote:azcatz11 wrote:It’s funny the pro Ishbia ones are the ones hurling personal insults. I guess they like Kim kardashain wannabes and support this behavior. Really sad stuff
Are you okay?
I take it seriously because of Monica Seles…maybe you’re not old enough to remember that. You never touch anyone if you’re a fan
Jokic touched him first. Overreaction either way. Neither party needs a suspension. This wasn’t a stabbing. Everyone needs to manup and move on.
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hisairness wrote:infinite11285 wrote:Booker’s carrying KD
25,10 and 6 on 8-15. WTH are you talking about? There was whole page of posts without a dig at Durant so did you feel some kind of responsibility to take one?
When I made the post, Booker was carrying KD. Are you ok?
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
Hsker4Life wrote:A lot of overreaction from both sides on this Jokic/Ishbia thing.
No, Ishbia didn’t “wrestle” the ball from 6’11 300 lb Jokic. Nor did Jokic “elbow” Ishbia or “go into the stands.” It was the smallest of shoves and not a big deal.
So much drama over nothing.
Suns fans wants a suspension because they know they can’t stop him this series. I guess that’s one way to help your team.
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
Jokic is the victim here. Free him.
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Booker is playing out of his mind. Big respect to him.
And now Durant is starting to join the party.
Jokic will get his, but the rest of the Nuggets have to get more in the mix. Gordon, Porter, etc.
And now Durant is starting to join the party.
Jokic will get his, but the rest of the Nuggets have to get more in the mix. Gordon, Porter, etc.
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
durden_tyler wrote:Hsker4Life wrote:A lot of overreaction from both sides on this Jokic/Ishbia thing.
No, Ishbia didn’t “wrestle” the ball from 6’11 300 lb Jokic. Nor did Jokic “elbow” Ishbia or “go into the stands.” It was the smallest of shoves and not a big deal.
So much drama over nothing.
Suns fans wants a suspension because they know they can’t stop him this series. I guess that’s one way to help your team.
uh, no, we absolutely do NOT want a suspension because if that happens and we win the series, the talk will continue about us not beating full strength teams.
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durden_tyler wrote:Hsker4Life wrote:A lot of overreaction from both sides on this Jokic/Ishbia thing.
No, Ishbia didn’t “wrestle” the ball from 6’11 300 lb Jokic. Nor did Jokic “elbow” Ishbia or “go into the stands.” It was the smallest of shoves and not a big deal.
So much drama over nothing.
Suns fans wants a suspension because they know they can’t stop him this series. I guess that’s one way to help your team.
How many Suns fans here are you seeing saying he should be suspended?
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afarmenian wrote:azcatz11 wrote:Hsker4Life wrote:Are you okay?
I take it seriously because of Monica Seles…maybe you’re not old enough to remember that. You never touch anyone if you’re a fan
again again again, this is why there are rules about fans coming on to the court and as many rules about players going into the stands. Its very simple, don't contact fans. I consider what he did contacting a fan. There are no dead ball exceptions I am aware of. And right or wrong on the owner, maybe he was wrong for holding the ball or at a minimum in bad taste but there is no arguing what Jokic did was wrong period.
If it had been a few more rows up and jokic hopped over some seats to get the ball everyone would be calling Jokic out of him out of his mind but because it was the first row it was ok? Stay out of the fan area ESPECIALLY hostile fan area unless it a live ball.
You’ve done an epic job of twisting around what happened (when it’s on video)
You should write political speeches or something - very impressive stuff
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Hsker4Life wrote:durden_tyler wrote:Hsker4Life wrote:A lot of overreaction from both sides on this Jokic/Ishbia thing.
No, Ishbia didn’t “wrestle” the ball from 6’11 300 lb Jokic. Nor did Jokic “elbow” Ishbia or “go into the stands.” It was the smallest of shoves and not a big deal.
So much drama over nothing.
Suns fans wants a suspension because they know they can’t stop him this series. I guess that’s one way to help your team.
How many Suns fans here are you seeing saying he should be suspended?
Dudes high...lol

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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
Jokic 31/21/22
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
Luka & Oscar = 5 x 27/8/8
The Brodie = All-out energy
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Re: 2023 West Semifinals | (1) Denver Nuggets VS (4) Phoenix Suns (Series tied 2-2)
azcatz11 wrote:afarmenian wrote:azcatz11 wrote:
I take it seriously because of Monica Seles…maybe you’re not old enough to remember that. You never touch anyone if you’re a fan
again again again, this is why there are rules about fans coming on to the court and as many rules about players going into the stands. Its very simple, don't contact fans. I consider what he did contacting a fan. There are no dead ball exceptions I am aware of. And right or wrong on the owner, maybe he was wrong for holding the ball or at a minimum in bad taste but there is no arguing what Jokic did was wrong period.
If it had been a few more rows up and jokic hopped over some seats to get the ball everyone would be calling Jokic out of him out of his mind but because it was the first row it was ok? Stay out of the fan area ESPECIALLY hostile fan area unless it a live ball.
You’ve done an epic job of twisting around what happened (when it’s on video)
You should write political speeches or something - very impressive stuff
might work better for you to explain what and how I am twisting what happened instead of making baseless declarations and personal attacks chief.
Everything i say or said is based on the reality of what happened your personal dislike of the facts wont change that.
so you are saying i am twisting the fact that Jokic went over to the fan. That is not a fact in your eyes? That he was in the first row in a fan section...this is also disputed by you? That he did not forceable take an object and attempted to take it from a fans grasp IE made contact to him....you are also disputing this occured.
By all means show me what I am missing
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Amare and Diaw move 10 feet from the bench in response to Horry hip checking nash - suspension
Jokic shoving a fan who touched him - nothing.
I hope he doesn’t get suspended, but people saying he def shouldn’t are being silly.
Jokic shoving a fan who touched him - nothing.
I hope he doesn’t get suspended, but people saying he def shouldn’t are being silly.



