DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

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Post#2261 » by JellosJigglin » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:42 pm

emphi54 wrote:I don't think Jordan really understands the ethics of giving your words. Someone needs to tell the players from this point that if you give a verbal commitment, then it's as good as signing.


Signed contracts can be rescinded so even those aren't worth anything.

Is it unethical? Yes. Can you do anything about it? NOPE.
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Post#2262 » by JellosJigglin » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:44 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


I agree. Signing with Dallas never made sense from a basketball angle. I just assumed he wanted to be closer to home.
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Post#2263 » by Jack_Tretton » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:47 pm

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Jack_Tretton wrote:Deandre may be a confused and immature coward, whatever, let him be. What doesn't sit well with me is if none of the Clippers organization even suggest to Deandre to inform the Mavs? Griffin's just a kid so I'll let him slide, but Paul, Doc, and Ballmer should know better. IF they actually encouraged this behavior to their benefit, I hope they rot in mediocrity forever. I know this is ultimately on Deandre, but that's some disgusting environment if what I'm assuming is true.

You would think one person in that room would tell him to do the respectful thing. Even if it is just to call and cancel the meeting and say that you will remain with the Clippers.

I don't want to call DJ a child, but that was childish. Doc, or someone far older should have told him to make the call. The only way I can see hi doing this is if he felt Fegan and Cuban messed with his mind or something. Otherwise, why show such disrespect to people who wined and dined you?

Even if he didn't want to talk to Fegan or Cuban... he could have called up Matthews or Parsons whom were his alleged friends? Or even better his childhood hero Dirk Nowitzki whom took time out of his vacation to recruit him.


Paul & Comapany's been with DeAndre for a while. They knew exactly which buttons to push. It wouldn't shock me of DeAndre's been told to put the phone down, relax with video games, and let the adults handle the business. I am not trying to excuse the kid, but we've all tried to run away from our responsibilities. It's just that most of us can't dictate NBA free agency. Lost a lot of respect for the Clippers organization from this, and I am not even a Mark Cuban fan or anything.
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Post#2264 » by DwayneSchintzus » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:47 pm

As a Spurs fan that lives in Dallas and has had to endure obnoxious Mavs fans FOR YEARS I'm really enjoying this whole thing. Mark Cuban walks around like he's some expert negotiator and he's just a clown enjoying the smell of his own farts.

I have had to hear for years from Mavs fans, "Once Duncan retires your franchise won't be **** for years" and now we have our exit plan while your DA owner can't even sign 2nd tier NBA players....
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Post#2265 » by EntropyPR » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:49 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


This really isn't the issue. Good choice or bad choice is moot at this point, it is the fact that he chose Dallas and when he decided to go back on his word he didn't let Dallas know. Shady and really, really unprofessional.
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Post#2266 » by daoneandonly » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:50 pm

DwayneSchintzus wrote:As a Spurs fan that lives in Dallas and has had to endure obnoxious Mavs fans FOR YEARS I'm really enjoying this whole thing. Mark Cuban walks around like he's some expert negotiator and he's just a clown enjoying the smell of his own farts.

I have had to hear for years from Mavs fans, "Once Duncan retires your franchise won't be **** for years" and now we have our exit plan while your DA owner can't even sign 2nd tier NBA players....


I take it your between the ages of 12-18? I'm a Mavs fan in D.C. and never heard any Mavs fans bashing SA, Houston? Yes, they deserve it, but SA was always respected and embraced the rivalry.
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Post#2267 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:50 pm

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emphi54 wrote:I don't think Jordan really understands the ethics of giving your words. Someone needs to tell the players from this point that if you give a verbal commitment, then it's as good as signing.


Signed contracts can be rescinded so even those aren't worth anything.

Is it unethical? Yes. Can you do anything about it? NOPE.


Signed contracts can't be rescinded. What are you talking about? Once a contract is signed, if a party doesn't perform, that's called a breach.
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Post#2268 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:52 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


Wait - the Spurs got Jordan too? This is just getting ridiculous.
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Post#2269 » by funkydawg » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:53 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.

Paid less ? Bro, I see you are a Rockets fan do you even live in Texas? He signed for 4 years 80 million.( I think it was 87.5 with the CBA increase) 80 Million in Texas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80 Million in Cali.
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Post#2270 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:55 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


This really isn't the issue. Good choice or bad choice is moot at this point, it is the fact that he chose Dallas and when he decided to go back on his word he didn't let Dallas know. Shady and really, really unprofessional.



I can understand your bitterness as a fan, but that's what a verbal deal is. It is not a binding agreement.

Yes, it is an agreement made in good faith, but again, not binding.


In the end, Jordan made the right basketball choice, even if in bad faith. Dallas wouldn't want a player who really didn't want to be there anyway.


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Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


I agree. Signing with Dallas never made sense from a basketball angle. I just assumed he wanted to be closer to home.



Depending on the point guard position and bench, they would have been ok but not really a contender.

In the end, this is probably good for Dallas.
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Post#2271 » by garrick » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:58 pm

I hope this works out better for the Mavs in the long run.

Having a ton of money locked up into a one dimensional immature player in DJ is not going to net them a championship, however I think star free agents are not likely to sign with the small market Mavs unfortunately.
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Post#2273 » by DwayneSchintzus » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:00 pm

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DwayneSchintzus wrote:As a Spurs fan that lives in Dallas and has had to endure obnoxious Mavs fans FOR YEARS I'm really enjoying this whole thing. Mark Cuban walks around like he's some expert negotiator and he's just a clown enjoying the smell of his own farts.

I have had to hear for years from Mavs fans, "Once Duncan retires your franchise won't be **** for years" and now we have our exit plan while your DA owner can't even sign 2nd tier NBA players....


I take it your between the ages of 12-18? I'm a Mavs fan in D.C. and never heard any Mavs fans bashing SA, Houston? Yes, they deserve it, but SA was always respected and embraced the rivalry.


I'm 38. I've lived here 15 years. It has gotten better over the past few years but def in the 2003-2006 years it was obnoxious. I had my car defaced because it had a Spurs sticker on it (lol!).
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Post#2274 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:02 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.

Paid less ? Bro, I see you are a Rockets fan do you even live in Texas? He signed for 4 years 80 million.( I think it was 87.5 with the CBA increase) 80 Million in Texas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80 Million in Cali.


Perhaps I have the numbers off. Didn't he get 80 from Dallas and 87.5 from LA?

I'm not sure what his residency status is. Does he file income in Texas or California? Then 87.5 in Texas is more than 80 in Texas.


He still picked the better team and better opportunity for success.
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Post#2275 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:03 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


Wait - the Spurs got Jordan too? This is just getting ridiculous.



Spurs were the "favorite" last season too. Let's play the games first, homie.


Jordan absolutely makes the Clippers a contender.
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Post#2276 » by daoneandonly » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:03 pm

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DwayneSchintzus wrote:As a Spurs fan that lives in Dallas and has had to endure obnoxious Mavs fans FOR YEARS I'm really enjoying this whole thing. Mark Cuban walks around like he's some expert negotiator and he's just a clown enjoying the smell of his own farts.

I have had to hear for years from Mavs fans, "Once Duncan retires your franchise won't be **** for years" and now we have our exit plan while your DA owner can't even sign 2nd tier NBA players....


I take it your between the ages of 12-18? I'm a Mavs fan in D.C. and never heard any Mavs fans bashing SA, Houston? Yes, they deserve it, but SA was always respected and embraced the rivalry.


I'm 38. I've lived here 15 years. It has gotten better over the past few years but def in the 2003-2006 years it was obnoxious. I had my car defaced because it had a Spurs sticker on it (lol!).


Well I'd never condone or support defacing someone's property so I'm sorry to hear that. But obviously its salt in the wounds for us Mavs fans as we were excited that we got our main targets, only to have the main guy back out and not so much as let the team know himself, still. I'll be honest I hate SA as a Mavs fan, I think you have to, but difference is, unlike the Clipps and Rockets, I respect them, again, you kind of have to.
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Post#2278 » by JellosJigglin » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:10 pm

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emphi54 wrote:I don't think Jordan really understands the ethics of giving your words. Someone needs to tell the players from this point that if you give a verbal commitment, then it's as good as signing.


Signed contracts can be rescinded so even those aren't worth anything.

Is it unethical? Yes. Can you do anything about it? NOPE.


Signed contracts can't be rescinded. What are you talking about? Once a contract is signed, if a party doesn't perform, that's called a breach.


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Post#2279 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:12 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


your missing the point. It isn't about where he chose to go. It is how and when he chose to go to the clippers.

He basically tied up the Mavericks cap space for a week because everyone thought he was going there. It was a b*tch move.

No one would have said boo if he just signed with the clippers once FA start. The fact that he gave a verbal commitment to Dallas is where people have a issue with. Also the fact he has yet to talk to Cuban about changing his decision just tells you the type of low level scum DeAndre is.
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Post#2280 » by Nebula1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:20 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:Being honest, Jordan made the right decision. He's staying with a team that could win it all and getting paid more to do so. He wasn't going to win in Dallas and would have been paid less to lose.


your missing the point. It isn't about where he chose to go. It is how and when he chose to go to the clippers.

He basically tied up the Mavericks cap space for a week because everyone thought he was going there. It was a b*tch move.

No one would have said boo if he just signed with the clippers once FA start. The fact that he gave a verbal commitment to Dallas is where people have a issue with. Also the fact he has yet to talk to Cuban about changing his decision just tells you the type of low level scum DeAndre is.



Uh no, you're missing the point.

Do you understand the difference between legally binding and not legally binding? Do you understand a verbal agreement is non-binding?

This was in his every right, even if the decision was made in bad faith. Doesn't make it a bad decision.

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