What are the Sixers doing?

[BullyKing]

Oh yeah, I forgot that all 2nd round picks are unrestricted free agents after their rookie seasons.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I don't think logistically means what you think it means.

Nah, I meant "logistically." I think you think I'm confusing it with "logically", which I am not. Leading me to believe that you don't know what "logistically" means. Nice try though.

No, you really do not know what logistically means. Unless trading a second round pick was embarrassingly logistically means there was some enormous paperwork to be worked out that I'm unaware of.

[BullyKing]

Lin and Boozer were brought in to command the tank once Kobe inevitably self-destructed. The tank was real from the start. Goran is proof that good players are still willing to sign in LA, and LA has the money to overpay. PHI getting a top 10 pick next season seems doubtful to me, but obviously it depends on who LA can sign.

Weren't the Lakers trying to get Carmelo last year? They only went to the tank plan once they struck out on all of the good free agents next year. It's nice like this is a good free agent class anyway so the Lakers either need to run the table on the good UFA or hope teams don't match RFAs (which seems unlikely given the rising cap).

Well it's not like they'll need to sign LeBron to push that pick out of the top 10. LA is going to be a better team next season regardless of who they get in FA. They can scrape together enough middling talent to make a decent push out of the bottom 10.

Are they also moving to the Eastern Conference?

[ALL HAIL]

Trading Carter-Williams for the Lakers' pick was savvy.

Trading McDaniels was also savvy. When you're confident that you're losing a player, you should cash-in. No if ands or buts about it.

Trading for McGee was equivalent to a squirrel collecting nuts, but I wonder if there'll be any minutes for him next season to showcase him (before he's re-traded). Eventually, I think McGee isn't flipped.

I think it was more about the free first round pick than McGee himself.

No "thinking" about it. He was definitely acquired for that reason. Chances are he'll be an expensive third string center and insurance policy until his contract runs out ... and that's cool.

[BullyKing]

Honestly, if there is a 13 page thread on what the Sixes are doing after yesterday, there should be a 50 page thread on what the hell the Suns are thinking.

[BarnabyJones]

Can we pin this thread?

There have been a million "what are the 6ers doing"? threads the last couple of years.

[JXL]

What are the Sixers doing?

Banking on a Lebron James/Shaq/MJ/Magic in the next 3-4 drafts.

One problem: There will never be another for the next 15-20 years.

[BullyKing]

What are the Sixers doing?

Banking on a Lebron James/Shaq/MJ/Magic in the next 3-4 drafts.

One problem: There will never be another for the next 15-20 years.

Good to know you already have scouting reports for people who haven't even been born yet.

[gipper08]

If I was Hinkie I might have worked an "options collar" with the LAL.

Basically I would have traded LAL's pick back to them for the Rocket's pick LAL has, AND the right to swap with LAL on their own pick.

For the 6ers You eliminate the risk of not getting a pick and you increase the likelihood of getting a top three pick. For LAL you would eliminate the risk of not getting a lottery pick.

[Freefloater]

You are seriously underrating Isaah Canaan hes a future all-star

Apparently so.

Seriously, I expect him to be posting between 15/5 and 25/10 the rest of the season....

[Cavs0623]

What are the Sixers doing?

Banking on a Lebron James/Shaq/MJ/Magic in the next 3-4 drafts.

One problem: There will never be another for the next 15-20 years.

Right, its not like there has been Lebron/KD/AD in just this past decade or anything


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[CrookedJ]

You are seriously underrating Isaah Canaan hes a future all-star

Apparently so.

Seriously, I expect him to be posting between 15/5 and 25/10 the rest of the season....

Then he'll have REAL trade value lol.

[Yoshun]

I really don't see the problem with what Hinkie is doing. He hasn't even been in charge for two full seasons yet and he took over a team that was already really bad. I don't think it's fair to say just yet that his plan isn't working, he hasn't done anything for the sixers. etc... It often takes a few seasons to rebuild a team, especially a team as bad and as poorly constructed as the Sixers were when he took over.

[JasonStern]

1. acquire 20 first round draft picks
2. realize the roster is capped at 15 players
3. ???
4. championship through analytics

[Crackerjack465]

Hinkie is doing everything right IMO.

These players are all "nice" but they're not superstars. He want's his superstar. If the ping pong balls bounce a little differently last year or Embiid doesn't get injured and they are a core of MCW, McDaniels, Wiggins, Noel

They didn't didn't get Wiggins, so he's trying it again, holding onto Embiid, and seeing if he can get another shot at it. you need that "go to" guy, not a bunch of average players to wallow in mediocrity for 5 more years.

You need stars. You can't win without one and the last 20 years has proven it. Spurs, Heat, Mavs, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Rockets... all the teams sans the Pistons (the one outlier, but they had 5 really above average/all-stars in their primes) had STARS. You have to do what you can to get one, even if it's giving up on a nice player like MCW, it isn't the end of the world.

[Kilo]

The LAL pick will very likely be next years first as this year they're virtually locked in the bottom four with Philly, NYK and Minnesota and the T'Wolves will probably win more games as they're incentive is to win now to have their young guys to learn how to win in the league. So If NYK-Philly-LAL finish last-through-third last it means all three teams from behind them would have to "win" the lottery to push Lakers back to 6th pick (and to Philly getting it this year).

With Lakers spending their 30M in FA and with Kobe back the pick is probably in the 10-16 range next season.

[GallagherArt]

The LAL pick will very likely be next years first as this year they're virtually locked in the bottom four with Philly, NYK and Minnesota and the T'Wolves will probably win more games as they're incentive is to win now to have their young guys to learn how to win in the league. So If NYK-Philly-LAL finish last-through-third last it means all three teams from behind them would have to "win" the lottery to push Lakers back to 6th pick (and to Philly getting it this year).

With Lakers spending their 30M in FA and with Kobe back the pick is probably in the 10-16 range next season.

I mentioned this in the other thread, however if the scenario does play out as you describe, which does seem likely, then it's a valuation of a 24 going on 25 year old MCW with 1 year remaining on his rookie contract or the 10th-16th pick.

I'm not upset about that outcome as a Sixers' fan. Maybe we get lucky and get a better pick, maybe we get really lucky and get the pick this year.

[Sixerscan]

What are the Sixers doing?

Banking on a Lebron James/Shaq/MJ/Magic in the next 3-4 drafts.

One problem: There will never be another for the next 15-20 years.

I'd be cool with just getting a guy better than Michael Carter-Williams

[loserX]

Hinkie is doing everything right IMO.

These players are all "nice" but they're not superstars. He want's his superstar. If the ping pong balls bounce a little differently last year or Embiid doesn't get injured and they are a core of MCW, McDaniels, Wiggins, Noel

They didn't didn't get Wiggins, so he's trying it again, holding onto Embiid, and seeing if he can get another shot at it. you need that "go to" guy, not a bunch of average players to wallow in mediocrity for 5 more years.

You need stars. You can't win without one and the last 20 years has proven it. Spurs, Heat, Mavs, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Rockets... all the teams sans the Pistons (the one outlier, but they had 5 really above average/all-stars in their primes) had STARS. You have to do what you can to get one, even if it's giving up on a nice player like MCW, it isn't the end of the world.

That's a perfectly fine process. The question it raises is: what happens if Noel and Embiid don't turn out that good either? Teams can't just keep hitting the re-set button year after year in perpetuity; at some point they will have to play the hand they're dealt even if there isn't an Anthony Davis in the bunch.

[Mik317]

I hated yestardays deals...
however we don't need to hit on all of those picks...just one. If Russell, Mudiday, or whoever is really **** good...then all of this **** will be worth it...We aren't getting the Lakers pick this year and I'd imagine it would be a 8-14 pick at best. But probably will still have the Heat pick and OKC pick (Go OKC Go...lol)...so "in theory" we can come away with two good players from this draft and have a core going into next season. In theory..this all can backfire, but the only thing keeping me sane is that fact that our scouts haven't pick any complete busts yet...I'm not one of thsoe Sixers fans calling MCW trash all of a sudden...I think he can be a damn good PG and Kidd is a great teacher for him...The Bucks are lucky. I also don't think Hinkie can delay anymore...so there is that.

We have a "chance" to come out of this draft with two bluechippers (hopefully backcourt guys...because lol we just murdered the ones we had), that will make all of this bellyaching worth it.

We will have to wait and see.

[Ruzious]

What the Sixers are doing is showing the NBA that the lottery system needs to be changed.