How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul?

[jbk1234]

THe officiating is very interesting with Lebron. Asking specifically non-homers from either team, how do "neutral" fans view it? I feel like he is on one hand given a very long leash both offensively and defensively, meaning he can shove and hook and charge into people and not get called for it; on the other side i can see how he has to take a lot of contact himself when going to the basket and does not always get the call. So its not simple favorism but for some reason the officials seem to struggle to make the right calls on him. Which is why many fan bases are upset about the things he gets away with. It cant be explained with statistical distrubution or "evening out" when one player who plays very physical on both ends and who logs big minutes does not get called for a single foul in nearly 20 games. Whats your take on that?

This is true.

When lebron drives, he not going to the line unless he gets hacked. I distinctly remember a Green and1 over triston thompson last game, Lebron was getting the same contact every time down the court.

He's just making things up. LBJ has committed a foul in every playoff game and is averaging 3 fouls per game.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Speaking of Bron...is it just me, or is he getting away with a ton of push offs??

Yeah, the difference is that LeBron flops and cries to the refs every time he gets touched.

[Mamba4Goat]

Speaking of Bron...is it just me, or is he getting away with a ton of push offs??

He is, and it's really effective for him. It's almost a go to move and makes him harder to defend. If the defense can bump him and handcheck him, like they are often allowed to this series, it evens out somewhat, but still a good strategy for LeBron. Whether the defense can get away with that type of compensation completely depends on when they start to do it (i.e., if LeBron is still at least at their side) and how well both sides make it look natural/sell-it.

I remember in the Bulls series when they had their big comeback LeBron off-armed Jimmy Butler from one end of the court to the other. Not being sarcastic, I'm seriously impressed LeBron is able to do so much work on top of his normal load.

People should refer to these playoffs when they talk about ridiculous notions of whether LeBron could play in the 80s/90s.

Oh yeah. There was a sequence where he pushed off on Barnes and got a no call, then the next play he pushed off of Iggy almost knocking him down, and it was just silly. Dudes already hard to guard and they're going to let him get away with that?

[flash22]

THe officiating is very interesting with Lebron. Asking specifically non-homers from either team, how do "neutral" fans view it? I feel like he is on one hand given a very long leash both offensively and defensively, meaning he can shove and hook and charge into people and not get called for it; on the other side i can see how he has to take a lot of contact himself when going to the basket and does not always get the call. So its not simple favorism but for some reason the officials seem to struggle to make the right calls on him. Which is why many fan bases are upset about the things he gets away with. It cant be explained with statistical distrubution or "evening out" when one player who plays very physical on both ends and who logs big minutes does not get called for a single foul in nearly 20 games. Whats your take on that?

This is true.

When lebron drives, he not going to the line unless he gets hacked. I distinctly remember a Green and1 over triston thompson last game, Lebron was getting the same contact every time down the court.

He's just making things up. LBJ has committed a foul in every playoff game and is averaging 3 fouls per game.

He didn't say anything about Lebron James not getting fouls called against him. He simply stated that lebron is allowed to play more physically while at the same time opponents are allowed to play lebron more physically then other players. Which is true. If your going to call an and1 on that draymond green layup, then lebron should be going to the line every possession.

[jbk1234]

This is true.

When lebron drives, he not going to the line unless he gets hacked. I distinctly remember a Green and1 over triston thompson last game, Lebron was getting the same contact every time down the court.

He's just making things up. LBJ has committed a foul in every playoff game and is averaging 3 fouls per game.

He didn't say anything about Lebron James not getting fouls called against him. He simply stated that lebron is allowed to play more physically while at the same time opponents are allowed to play lebron more physically then other players. Which is true. If your going to call an and1 on that draymond green layup, then lebron should be going to the line every possession.

"It cant be explained with statistical distrubution or "evening out" when one player who plays very physical on both ends and who logs big minutes does not get called for a single foul in nearly 20 games."

[RebuildaBulls]

Clean slide tackle

[MisterHibachi]

Iggy has been hand checking the hell out of LeBron every drive.

[LesGrossman]

This is true.

When lebron drives, he not going to the line unless he gets hacked. I distinctly remember a Green and1 over triston thompson last game, Lebron was getting the same contact every time down the court.

He's just making things up. LBJ has committed a foul in every playoff game and is averaging 3 fouls per game.

He didn't say anything about Lebron James not getting fouls called against him. He simply stated that lebron is allowed to play more physically while at the same time opponents are allowed to play lebron more physically then other players. Which is true. If your going to call an and1 on that draymond green layup, then lebron should be going to the line every possession.

Thank you for actually READING what you commented on instead of putting the homer glasses and troll hat on and typing away. I was refering to the 255 min (?) streak lebron had where he wasnt called for a single foul. Not one, not on offense or defense. No chasedown block with the slgihtest contact. No charge on offense. And he had several of these runs. If you didnt knw that then you probably started watching basketball 2014.

In these finals, he is very often pushing off to get open to catch. When driving, if his defense can keep up, he usually uses the off-hand to just push them away. Thats just poor technique just like the constant travels that go uncalled. It is true that he was called for a few fouls but in my opinion he SHOULD have been called for a lot more and especially on the offensive end. It does not hurt him or his team if he gets a third foul in the fourth quarter but would the officials force him to play legal offense, then the games might look quite different.

I am glad most guys agreed with me on that, even some reasonable cavs fans. The question now is, wether he benefits more or less from the lack of calls (and i thought on many occasions that he should be shooting free throws after driving). I dont buy into "he has experience and knows what one can get away with". I believe its obvious that he knows what HE gets away with. Do you really believe any other player would be allowed the same amount of physicality on offense?

If you want to argue, then address these points instead of attacking me personally.

[Hodges4Three]

He's just making things up. LBJ has committed a foul in every playoff game and is averaging 3 fouls per game.

He didn't say anything about Lebron James not getting fouls called against him. He simply stated that lebron is allowed to play more physically while at the same time opponents are allowed to play lebron more physically then other players. Which is true. If your going to call an and1 on that draymond green layup, then lebron should be going to the line every possession.

"It cant be explained with statistical distrubution or "evening out" when one player who plays very physical on both ends and who logs big minutes does not get called for a single foul in nearly 20 games."

Wasn't that a reference to last season or something when he went like 18 games without a single foul?

[semi-sentient]

Didn't read the thread but I thought it was a foul. He got the ball first, but Curry never had a chance to recover because he was floored by LeBron. To me that's no different than hitting a shooter on their follow through even though you grazed the ball first.

Warriors had a few calls go their way though so that's just how it is. They put themselves in a big hole and that's ultimately why they lost.

[Ben-N1ce]

He didn't say anything about Lebron James not getting fouls called against him. He simply stated that lebron is allowed to play more physically while at the same time opponents are allowed to play lebron more physically then other players. Which is true. If your going to call an and1 on that draymond green layup, then lebron should be going to the line every possession.

"It cant be explained with statistical distrubution or "evening out" when one player who plays very physical on both ends and who logs big minutes does not get called for a single foul in nearly 20 games."

Wasn't that a reference to last season or something when he went like 18 games without a single foul?

It was only like 6 games and like 255 minutes total which is pretty normal

[NO-KG-AI]

He fell after a 250+ pound man crashed into him near full speed. I don't believe I was being whiny at all.

I meant that LeBron slipped and fell. That's like a fist hitting someone in a slip and fall, and calling it a punch.

Except LeBrons slip looked like a text book slide tackle.

So you think LeBron purposely hit the floor to slide tackle him, risking his own injury as much as Steph's? right

[oaktownwarriors87]

I meant that LeBron slipped and fell. That's like a fist hitting someone in a slip and fall, and calling it a punch.

Except LeBrons slip looked like a text book slide tackle.

So you think LeBron purposely hit the floor to slide tackle him, risking his own injury as much as Steph's? right

I said it looked like a slide tackle. I didn't say it was intentional.

[DynastySS]

Is this really a 13 page thread?

Every person with an IQ North of 100 knows it was a foul.

One foul does not make or break a game. There have been bad fouls or non-calls both ways, and that is not why the series is what it is.

Move on, there will be more missed calls. Both sides better get used to it.

[davey_wavy]

Part that pisses me off is the fact that the NBA will fine your a$$ immediately for talking about the officiating, YET they have the right to pick and choose what game violation they feel like whistling for. They give themselves all the flexibility in the world, and when they miss a call they "acknowledge it was missed" and don't do **** about it.. But don't talk about it, it will cost you thousands of bucks.