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BigtimeNBAfan wrote:I'm no fan of Durant going to GS, but it is funny people say Curry is cocky when he celebrates. He is literally doing things that no other player in NBA history is doing and you want him to show no emotion? If I could shoot like that, I certainly would be celebrating. There is nothing wrong with how Curry has acted.
HotRocks34 wrote:Phreak50 wrote:Quick note to the 'Warriors have been unfairly hated' crap echoed a bit in here.
We loved you guys as underdogs but you let success get to your head and become the most cocky, hypocritical team in the league.
It's all justified.
Correct. To reference something I posted from a previous KD thread that was written by a person from GQ shortly after the 2016 Finals:
http://www.gq.com/story/steph-curry-backlash-lebronFor the first time in what seemed forever, Curry (who, like LeBron, was born in Akron) was officially a loser again, just another Icarus who flew too close to the sun with his stupid mouthpiece dangling out. In a year that saw much of the formerly besotted public violently reject and repudiate Curry and the Golden State Warriors, this was the only acceptable conclusion, that of maximum dishonor and a vicious public humbling.
So, just as Phreak50 said, the "formerly besotted public" (a public that liked and was taken with the Warriors) turned on the Warriors last year. And that turning seems to have particularly taken place during the playoffs.
If you are capable of turning LeBron into a hero, then you're probably doing something wrong.
I recall seeing a poll (can't find it now and I have looked for it) taken either before the Finals started or before Game 7, from ESPN I believe it was, which I think showed an overwhelming number of USA states rooting for the Cavs. That never happens until late last year. The Warriors were the darlings of the league, but then people turned on them.
Sure, "Light Years" and all of that. But it wasn't just that. It was the shimmying, it was the arrogance that showed up on the court and in media sessions. It was the "best team of all time?" stuff that put the cart before the horse. It was Ayesha. It was Mychal. It was Draymond hitting people in the groin and not getting suspended during the OKC series. It was Klay talking about LeBron. It was Klay saying the Warriors were better than the Showtime Lakers after like Game 2 of the 2016 FInals. It was the sense of unearned entitlement that seemed to permeate the entire Warriors organization. It was the multiple comments from a supposed Curry source(s) about how hurt Steph was during the playoffs. It was Steph hitting a fan with his thrown mouthpiece in the Finals.
The hate was real, too. And it's still real. There's no way around it. This is from someone -- someone who himself fell prey to the foolish Warriors arrogance in tweets saying during the 2015-16 season that there was no way the Cavs could beat the Warriors in a series, I believe -- who covers the Warriors. It was written after the Durant signing.
http://www.mercurynews.com/marcus-thompson/ci_30089628/thompson-kevin-durant-makes-warriors-most-hated-teamNot that long ago, the Warriors were the epitome of lovable. A bunch of nice-guy underdogs who had obvious fun and played an entertaining style of basketball. Those days were clearly over after they won a championship, followed by their chase for 73 turning them into one of the most hyped teams ever.
CEO Joe Lacob's comments about the Warriors being "light years" ahead of the NBA gave credence to the anti-Warriors crowd's bemoans of arrogance. People grew weary of the Warriors and their rampant love. The once-cute, inspirational, play-the-game-the-right-way squad that brought beauty back to basketball officially became antagonists.
That was never more evident when the Warriors choked away a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals. It was hard to tell if some were more happy about the Warriors' demise or impressed by the Cavaliers' impressive feat.
The Warriors, and their media, and the national media who defended them (I'm looking at you here, ESPN) earned their Darth Vader status.
I think the Warriors, collectively, are trying to start walking back from "villain road" now. KD was concerned about being the villain for leaving OKC and that's likely where the Player's Tribune piece came from. The leak about Steph's texts to Durant are almost certainly from a Curry source and seem clearly intended to paint Steph in a flattering light. Draymond Green just did an interview with Sports Illustrated and it seemed to contain none of what people have seemed to feel is Green's previous arrogance.
EastBayBoy wrote:All you do is ***** and moan about GSW. It's your shtick, but it is getting quite tiresome.
HotRocks34 wrote:EastBayBoy wrote:All you do is ***** and moan about GSW. It's your shtick, but it is getting quite tiresome.
My advice to you is to try to take on the substance of what I say rather than trying to go ad hominem against me personally.
In debating, when a person attacks the debater rather than the debating points, that's often a sign that they can't refute the points made by their opponent.
What the Warriors said and did has nothing to do with me. Same as the Heat doing the whole "not 5, not 6, not 7" stuff had nothing to do with me. I didn't make anyone say anything or act in any certain way. But just because it had nothing to do with me doesn't mean I didn't observe what happened when it happened.
I'm not debating with you cause every post you make regarding GSW and Curry is in a negative light, give respect where respect is due. I have read countless posts where one tries to look at everything and anything in a negative light. 
dbrandon wrote:I don't come to the GB very often, but here goes:
KD decapitated the only Western Conference threat to the Warriors and joined up with them.
And they're HATED here. Like Lakers vs Celtics hated. Or maybe Real Madrid vs Barca after this...
Most of us would have been OK with anyone else.
But the league belongs to the Warriors for the foreseeable future, and the most successful small-market team since San Antonio has been done in by injuries and accidents of salary cap timing.
Bear in mind, for us, this isn't just about basketball. He made the best basketball decision. He basically guaranteed himself a ring. But it feels like getting stabbed in the back.
Everything KD's said is that he loves the city, he supports the people, he's happy to live here, whatever. Now he turns around and goes to California.
We're a college sports state. OU vs OSU is like the Hatfields and the freakin McCoys here. There are people who wouldn't be caught dead wearing orange or crimson. But they'll support the Thunder. From Tulsa to Elk City, the state supports them.
In OKC, the Thunder are the city. It's not like we have a lot of exciting things. This is like the Golden Gate Bridge or the Washington Monument sprouting legs and walking away. The Thunder came at a time when the city was really starting to take off and grow. We're starting to get some cool areas in the city, growth, exciting development. I've lived here since '95, and it was a cow town. It's not any more, and the Thunder have been a huge part of that. KD in particular has been a huge part of that.
Back in the 80s, our civic leadership realized that OKC sucked and took steps to remedy it. We pay pretty high sales tax—some of the highest in the country, I think—but it's because that money is being plowed into the city. Bricktown, the various districts, the canal, the Oklahoma River (formerly the Oklahoma Mud Flat), That being said, it's still Oklahoma. The only interesting landmarks or things to do that we have are things we make. It's flat, there are no beaches, there are no mountains, there are no forests, and the climate sucks. But we're making it better, one step at a time.
And KD and the Thunder have paralleled that growth. There's going to be some level of economic impact for sure, but there's also some level of citywide morale to think about. For us it's basically a referendum on the growth of the city, and whether or not we can appeal to people on a wider scale. It's "have we done enough to compete with the bigger cities".
It used to be that when you said you were from OKC, the first thing that popped into people's minds was a Ryder truck full of fertilizer and diesel fuel underneath the Murrah building. Now when you say you're from OKC, the first thought isn't Timothy McVeigh, it's Kevin Durant.
Or at least, it was.
I'll always appreciate what he did while he was here. That's in the past. We're done. We're booing the roof off the Peake next time he comes.
And we'll pick up the pieces and walk forward together. Just like we do every May when the tornadoes come. Only this time, KD's not going to be here to help.
RaptorNews wrote:People want to portray this as a smart business move and nothing more
You realize this is just a silly game we all watch for fun and taking the fun out of it really really sucks?
EastBayBoy wrote:HotRocks34 wrote:EastBayBoy wrote:All you do is ***** and moan about GSW. It's your shtick, but it is getting quite tiresome.
My advice to you is to try to take on the substance of what I say rather than trying to go ad hominem against me personally.
In debating, when a person attacks the debater rather than the debating points, that's often a sign that they can't refute the points made by their opponent.
What the Warriors said and did has nothing to do with me. Same as the Heat doing the whole "not 5, not 6, not 7" stuff had nothing to do with me. I didn't make anyone say anything or act in any certain way. But just because it had nothing to do with me doesn't mean I didn't observe what happened when it happened.
Oh, I'm not in anyway attacking you. I'm just pointing out how old your schtick is becoming.
You have some vendetta against Curry and GSW for some reason, not sure why. It may be because they beat down the team you cheer for multiple times or because of the sheer dominance of the league between them and the Cavs, I'm not sure but please, carry on with your show as I won't be posting in this thread again.
The term "gaslighting" has been used colloquially since the 1960s to describe efforts to manipulate someone's sense of reality
ppedro123 wrote:BigtimeNBAfan wrote:I'm no fan of Durant going to GS, but it is funny people say Curry is cocky when he celebrates. He is literally doing things that no other player in NBA history is doing and you want him to show no emotion? If I could shoot like that, I certainly would be celebrating. There is nothing wrong with how Curry has acted.
Being the unanimous regular season MVP but having a total of zero Finals MVP votes for two straight finals?
Veez wrote:anyone mention Ray Allen possibly joing the warriors? that may be the best shooting team of all time
ozzykhan16 wrote:People wanna talk about loyalty, honor..blah blah. Where was OKC's loyalty to Scott Brooks? Serge Ibaka? James Harden? Reggie Jackson? Or is loyalty only a one way street. Players should be loyal to the team, but the team doesn't have to be loyal to the player? Star plays should be loyal? But average players have no loyalty from the team?
Teams do what is best for them, and players have the same rights.