If your favorite NBA player pulled a Kaepernick?

[justicewinslow]

I for one think he is only doing it for his personal reasons.

He is playing worse and worse, and is a burden with the huge contract. I think that he went political so that when the media and people try to criticize him, he could deflect the blame, make it seem like it's due to his political views.

This is correct. Remember this is the same guy who wore another NFL teams hat and posted it on instagram just to cause a stir....around the time of his fall off. He his rich, he doesn't care about the situation...he just wants to get noticed.

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[KingFox]

By virtually every statistical measurement blacks have a better life in America than any other country in the world. Kap is just a weak mind who buys the left wing narrative that blacks live oppressed lives here.

this comment saddens me. some will never get it smh

[KingFox]

so ... yea...

Kap' can do whatever the hell he wants to do, and the rest of the world that doesn't like it will just have to continue
to fume.

[RRyder823]

I have no problem with him not standing. It's his American right to do so. It's also in others rights to show disdain for him doing it. It all falls under the same flag.

My beef comes from the fact that he has the means to do much more if he was taking the issues in question seriously. Maybe he is behind the scenes. I have zero idea. If he is great. But when he's been doing this all pre season and nobody noticed because he wasn't playing AND he didn't tell anyone that he was sitting as a form of protest it seems incredibly stupid.

I mean if your trying to make a statement wouldnt you think it'd be more effective to actually make a statement when nobody noticed that you were doing it for two games instead of waiting till you were asked about it after the game that pretty much solidified your going to have a spot on the bench(or cut)?

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[Daddy 801]

To the people complaining about the liberal media please just stop. You can be a right wing person and have issues with nationalism, patriotism, flag worship, blacks being denied basic rights, institutional racism, the drug war, etc. There are plenty of people on the right who fall into that camp. You just sound like the old man yelling get off my lawn with the FOX news narrative that anyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed by the liberal media.

[MotownMadness]

I just find it really disrespectful and again just another selfish self pity spoiled tantrum from this new age protest everything for attention.

No doubt there are issues at hand and always will be. But we stand to honor all our fallen brothers in a tribute who have died throughout history to even allow us these rights we have of enjoying a pro game like that.

I don't see anything positive about protesting a tribute like that and just feel sorry for the type of mindset this country has fallen under where they would rather try to find a way to spit on the country then to take their spoiled little liberal glasses off and say thank you for literally every little right they have.

Honestly I used to always vote democrat just being more on the poor side but I can't stand their views and morals with how they will spit on the country for a vote. I find myself straight up Republican now as far as views and what little bit of patriotism they bring that's left in this country now.

[WestbrookGOATed]

I just read on NFL.com Kaepernick said this

"I think the two presidential candidates that we currently have also represent the issues that we have in this country right now," Kaepernick said. "You have Hillary who's called black teens or black kids super predators. You have Donald Trump who is openly racist. We have a presidential candidate who deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn't make sense to me. Because if that was any other person, you'd be in prison. So what is this country really standing for?"

Tell me he's wrong? I've had these exact same thoughts. Look who we are having shoved down our throats. We are supposed to believe Hillary or Trump can run this country? And even if we don't think they are capable of that we're being forced to choose between them? This is supposed to be a democracy? Lets be honest here. The people who support Trump are blatant racists or closet racists, complete idiots, and the people(all 5 of them) who support Hillary are only

[WestbrookGOATed]

doing so because they hate Trump. Hillary needs to be put in prison like any other person would and Trump needs to go back to reality tv or whatever the hell he does. It's been made obvious this election and probably every other one before it have been rigged, yet people just accepted it and continued with their lives. We CANNOT forget about this **** and just continue with our lives, most ordinary people like you and me will, but Kaepernick is famous and has the opportunity to remind people that this country is going to **** and change is needed desperately. I commend him for enduring the scrutiny he knew he'd get in order to open this conversation back up and get people talking about it again. If a famous athlete, who is probably very busy has the time to sit back and think about these same things going on that we all see, but feel we can't do anything about, who are we to scrutinize him for using his status to say what most of us are thinking.

[RRyder823]

To the people complaining about the liberal media please just stop. You can be a right wing person and have issues with nationalism, patriotism, flag worship, blacks being denied basic rights, institutional racism, the drug war, etc. There are plenty of people on the right who fall into that camp. You just sound like the old man yelling get off my lawn with the FOX news narrative that anyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed by the liberal media.

Well the media simply is heavily slanted torwards the left. It really just is. For better or for worse. But after CNNs liberal hatchet job while reporting the Milwaukee riots it's hard to argue the media by and large isn't slanted torwards the left. Yes it's just one story but there are many other examples.

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[Braggins]

God this new generation of cry babies is just beyond annoying. "My feelings hurt", "I need a safe zone", "Everyone is racists".

The generation that is crying about this is really the older ones.

I know it's a shame. We actually love our country!

You have no right to bitch about millennials and their safe zones. You are exactly the same, but even worse. You want the entire country to be one giant safe zone where no one can say anything that disagrees with your nonsensical propagandized notions of America. Its a complete joke that you are too ignorant to see this.

[eskimo]

It is absolutely mind-blowningly insane how many racist people post on a basketball message board.

It's mind-blowing how quickly someone on a message board will call someone with a different ideological POV a racist. When slavery ended I don't think is up for debate but the poster may just be mistaken as it happened long before any of us were born (and some of us were born in nations with no history of slavery).

I am not white and yet I don't really believe in "institutional racism". I do believe there are still quite a few racists who tend to give better treatment to their "tribe" than other "tribes" but I don't believe these things are really codified in law. If you keep looking for the racism in institutions it'll be the proverbial search for the boogeyman - all you're going to find is some people of varying degrees of racism who rose to certain levels of power in certain situations. I don't think it is nearly as pervasive as many believe but "tribalism" to some degree is hard-wired into all of us (blacks, whites, browns, asians).

I think the big problem generating problems in America is lack of opportunity for those with impoverished backgrounds and that includes poor white people who actually out-number poor black people and poor Latino people. The USA tends to be a "cream rise to the top" kind of nation that doesn't tend to help out those of any color who are born in abject poverty. Successful black people tend to have successful black kids. Successful brown people tend to have successful kids. Successful Asian people tend to have successful kids. Successful white people tend to have successful kids. I don't think people mind this so much as they mind those born to impoverished backgrounds facing quite a difficult journey to reach "middle class" status.

To switch things up would be to pursue something more socialist in nature but the American citizens voted against that when they had the chance with Sanders running neck and neck with Clinton early on in the primaries. I think switching the attention from fighting racism to creating low-crime neighbourhoods with quality healthcare and education systems that make it easier for people to rise out of poverty would be much more beneficial to everyone without alienating and dividing us all into our tribes.

Anyhow just my thoughts on the matter as a non-citizen but frequent visitor of your nation who is neither black nor white.

[Braggins]

To the people complaining about the liberal media please just stop. You can be a right wing person and have issues with nationalism, patriotism, flag worship, blacks being denied basic rights, institutional racism, the drug war, etc. There are plenty of people on the right who fall into that camp. You just sound like the old man yelling get off my lawn with the FOX news narrative that anyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed by the liberal media.

Well the media simply is heavily slanted torwards the left. It really just is. For better or for worse. But after CNNs liberal hatchet job while reporting the Milwaukee riots it's hard to argue the media by and large isn't slanted torwards the left. Yes it's just one story but there are many other examples.

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The media as a whole is not biased towards any ideology or principles. They are biased towards power and their own ratings. There appears to be currently be a "liberal" bias because the supposed "liberal" party is the one currently in power. When Bush was in power almost everyone in the media acted like his lap dogs just like they now are doing for Obama and Hillary. People in the media were being ostracized and fired on a purge like level for being critical of the Iraq War under Bush.

[RRyder823]

The generation that is crying about this is really the older ones.

I know it's a shame. We actually love our country!

Seriously, go **** yourself. You have no right to bitch about millennials and their safe zones. You are exactly the same, but even worse. You want the entire country to be one giant safe zone where no one can say anything that disagrees with your nonsensical propagandized notions of America. Its a complete joke that you are too ignorant to see this.

There's a pretty big difference between someone who thinks a certain way and will argue for it with a staunch passion versus many of the new wave of millennials who try and shut down a conversation the moment someone disagrees with their narrative and requires a safe space to keep out dissenting ideas because they don't like to be challenged.

Being challenged is paramount to growth and freedom of speech is paramount in this country no matter which side is speaking and how much other people hate to hear it. I lost hope for Millennials though when I saw that video of the the petition that got 100 signatures in an hour at Yale in favor of revoking the 1st amendment

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[RRyder823]

To the people complaining about the liberal media please just stop. You can be a right wing person and have issues with nationalism, patriotism, flag worship, blacks being denied basic rights, institutional racism, the drug war, etc. There are plenty of people on the right who fall into that camp. You just sound like the old man yelling get off my lawn with the FOX news narrative that anyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed by the liberal media.

Well the media simply is heavily slanted torwards the left. It really just is. For better or for worse. But after CNNs liberal hatchet job while reporting the Milwaukee riots it's hard to argue the media by and large isn't slanted torwards the left. Yes it's just one story but there are many other examples.

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The media as a whole is not biased towards any ideology or principles. They are biased towards power and their own ratings. Their appears to be currently be a "liberal" bias because the supposed "liberal" party is the one currently in power. When Bush was in power almost everyone in the media acted like his lap dogs just like they now are for Obama and Hillary. People in the media were being ostracized and fired on a purge like level for being critical of the Iraq War under Bush.

I won't disagree with this but I was referencing the current time that we live in

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[DirtyDez]

Have we seen a young up and coming "star" player take a harder fall than Colin Kaepernick these past few years? The 2014 NFCCG shattered him mentally.

Harbaugh got out at the right time.

[Braggins]

I know it's a shame. We actually love our country!

Seriously, go **** yourself. You have no right to bitch about millennials and their safe zones. You are exactly the same, but even worse. You want the entire country to be one giant safe zone where no one can say anything that disagrees with your nonsensical propagandized notions of America. Its a complete joke that you are too ignorant to see this.

There's a pretty big difference between someone who thinks a certain way and will argue for it with a staunch passion versus many of the new wave of millennials who try and shut down a conversation the moment someone disagrees with their narrative and requires a safe space to keep out dissenting ideas because they don't like to be challenged.

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I don't agree, especially when the people who often complain about millennials and their safe spaces are the same people who will tell anyone who disagrees with their delusional narrative of America that they should leave. They think America should be their giant safe space and anyone who disagrees with their idea of America should leave or be deported. For instance...

If he doesn't like America, there's always Canada.

[RRyder823]

Seriously, go **** yourself. You have no right to bitch about millennials and their safe zones. You are exactly the same, but even worse. You want the entire country to be one giant safe zone where no one can say anything that disagrees with your nonsensical propagandized notions of America. Its a complete joke that you are too ignorant to see this.

There's a pretty big difference between someone who thinks a certain way and will argue for it with a staunch passion versus many of the new wave of millennials who try and shut down a conversation the moment someone disagrees with their narrative and requires a safe space to keep out dissenting ideas because they don't like to be challenged.

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I don't agree, especially when the people who often complain about millennials and their safe spaces are the same people who will tell anyone who disagrees with their delusional narrative of America that they should leave. They think America should be their giant safe space and want anyone who disagrees with their idea of America should leave or be deported. For instance...

If he doesn't like America, there's always Canada.

Well I'm not saying that's better just pointing out that there is generally a difference. There are always exceptions to the rule. Any form of a "safe space" is stupid idea in the first place. The reason why it gets mentioned is because it's been coined by millennials for the most part though and many take pride in that they've made it a normal thing.

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[Daddy 801]

How about just turn off your damn TV's and stop getting news from ANY and ALL of the propaganda outlets the media calls news. Of course it's biased towards growing the state(leftism), but that doesn't mean a person has to be blind to the reality of our situations.

Kap clearly has some intelligence seeing the left/right political spectrum for what it is. A joke and not real. They are same sides of an evil coin. Protesting the national anthem, burning a flag, refusing to pledge allegiance, etc does not make a person a liberal. It makes them intelligent and aware. The drug war is a joke supported by both parties. The police state is a joke supported by both parties. Our empire is a joke supported by both parties. Our dependent welfare state is a joke supported by both parties. The constant erosion of civil liberties is a joke supported by both parties. Confiscation of private property by the state is a joke supported by both parties. At least Kap is smart enough to see that our "leaders" are a joke. And while I find both candidates to be disgusting human beings, I'm at least glad people are waking up to this reality.

Why anyone would sing the national anthem is beyond me. I wont sing the anthem or pledge allegiance BECAUSE I respect what soldiers have fought for. Soldiers now aren't fighting for our rights or freedom. They are corporate lapdogs for the military industrial complex. I don't disrespect them, that's just the truth. I feel sympathy, empathy, sorrow, and sadness for them. I have voted once in my life for a candidate who I thought would actually bring the troops home because I actually care about these kids out there dying. Standing up and singing a damn song or putting your hand over your heart is the most empty BS way of saying you support the troops. You support the troops??? Bring them home and let them be with their families. There is a reason these guys are coming home and killing themselves. It's because they know in their hearts they were fighting BS wars and killing innocent people by in large. I don't blame them either as these guys are doing what they think is right. I blame evil politicians on both the left and right. So does Kap understand all of this??? I doubt it. But I applaud his balls to stand up to the average unintelligent sports fan who thinks racism is over and a candidate like Trump or Hillary represent anything worthwhile.

If your a soldier I thank you for doing what you think is right. The flag or a song doesn't represent my feelings towards you as an individual or how I feel about people putting their life on the line. Those things represent an Empire that has slowly grown to represent everything it's says it is fighting.

I'm done contributing. Im gonna go back to worrying about if Gobert is going to get back to his defensive dominance and if Exum can come back from his injury.

[eagereyez]

I just read on NFL.com Kaepernick said this

"I think the two presidential candidates that we currently have also represent the issues that we have in this country right now," Kaepernick said. "You have Hillary who's called black teens or black kids super predators. You have Donald Trump who is openly racist. We have a presidential candidate who deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn't make sense to me. Because if that was any other person, you'd be in prison. So what is this country really standing for?"

Tell me he's wrong? I've had these exact same thoughts. Look who we are having shoved down our throats. We are supposed to believe Hillary or Trump can run this country? And even if we don't think they are capable of that we're being forced to choose between them? This is supposed to be a democracy? Lets be honest here. The people who support Trump are blatant racists or closet racists, complete idiots, and the people(all 5 of them) who support Hillary are only

Clinton called gang bangers super predators. Never once did she mention the word black. Krapernick doesn't know wtf he's talking about.

[E-Balla]

"Smith had been in trouble with the law dating back at least to 2011, according to arrest records released by the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office late Sunday. He was arrested or ticketed nine times in that period — for the shooting, a robbery, carrying a concealed weapon, theft, possession of heroin and more. His most recent arrest was July 22 for possession of cocaine, records show.

Last year, Smith was charged with first-degree recklessly endangering safety and with witness intimidation, but the charges were dismissed, court records show.

The charges were dropped even though the prosecutors had recorded jail calls in which Smith asked his girlfriend to pressure the victim to recant, according to court records.

In the witness intimidation case, Smith was accused of pressuring the victim in a shooting to recant a statement identifying him as the suspect, according to the criminal complaint."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/14/man-shot-milwaukee-police-subject-witness-intimidation-case/88721094/

Notice none of that said he was ever convicted. He's not a felon. Period. This is a fact.

The officer who shot him was an African-American.

And? They're all blue.

You're engaging in revisionist history regarding Ferguson. The crowd rioted because people said that he had his hands up and was surrendering. The riots didn't occur after the DOJ released its findings about policing for profit. DOJ found the officer's account to be accurate.

No they rioted because Darren Wilson didn't go to trial and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

This is inane. You don't care if the use of lethal force was justified or not in individual cases. That's fine but don't be surprised if other people discount your opinion because of it.

There's too many cases to discuss individual cases at this point. If you want to discuss individual cases let's bring up the most recent of a young black boy being shot for having a bb gun on film in Brooklyn 3 years ago and the video just coming out now after NYPD investigated everything and finding there was no wrong doing in them shooting a boy that was running and had his hands up 16 times. You want to discuss 2 cases where honestly we know nothing but ignore the cases we have video for to suit your agenda.