Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[disruptv3]

Spurs have no reason to take deng

[Arsenal]

If the Lakers are still pushing Deng out there Bayless should be used in the same. Shouldn’t oversell for a potential rental.

Absolutely. The Bayless contract is only 1/4 as toxic as the Deng contract, so including him should be no big deal.

Jerryd Bayless is owed $8.5M for this year then he expires.

Luol Deng is owed $18M for this year and $18.8M next year for a total of $36.8M in toxic money over 2 years.

It's absurd homerism for Laker fans to expect the Spurs to eat Deng's toxic deal while claiming the Sixers' reported offer of Saric, Covington, Smith, and a future 1st is not a good offer.

As a Laker fan I'm actually cool with any deal the 6ers make. I'll be happy to watch them give away talent for a rental. Also gives the Lakers time to evaluate Kawhi's health.

Likewise as a Sixers fan I was very happy to see the Lakers short-circuit their rebuild with the idiotic twin signings of Mozgov and Deng. Those two toxic contracts have already cost you assets, and may cost you a lot more.

[jason bourne]

Saric, Roco, zhaire and the miami pick sixers got from us is better than taking Deng back

If the Lakers are still pushing Deng out there Bayless should be used in the same. Shouldn’t oversell for a potential rental.

I had trouble getting trade checker to accept both Bayless and RoCo. Bayless, Fultz and Saric works and future 1st rnd pick. I suppose Zhaire Smith works in lieu of 1st rnd pick, too.

[Cavsfansince84]

I still think Boston and 76ers are likeliest teams to end up with Kawhi.

If the 76ers wanted to, they could trade pieces for Kawhi, essentially gut their team and sign LeBron and Paul George.

They would likely just keep Simmons and trade Embiid in the Kawhi deal

That would be Simmons, Kawhi, George, LBj

I think Kawhi would have to give assurances to LeBron he was going to resign and even then LeBron may be set on going to LA. He might not want to trust Kawhi on where he signs his next contract either.

[TommyPoints]

I can’t imagine that Philly would actually offer that without an extension promised.

Fultz has 0 value, Smith hasn't played a single game in the NBA, Saric is your average SF and the pick is 3 years from now. By that time Miami is likely to be a solid PO team. This package is crap. We are talking about Top 2 player.

Does the Lakers package really do anything? Lonzo’s shot still hasn’t proven to be consistent and brings outside drama and despite Ingram being a top pick he hasn’t really separated himself as a go to guy or franchise player.

No telling how Kyle Kuzma performs during year 2 when teams have him better scouted. Just saying it’s not like any of the Lakers prospects are showing great promise. Kuzma probably has the tools and attitude to pass the other two and those guys were number 2 picks.

I’m honestly not impressed with any of those guys and the Lakers aren’t going anywhere with that core. They are absolutely sweating until they can get Lebron/PG to commit.

[RaptorsLife]

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[TheNewEra]

Fultz has 0 value, Smith hasn't played a single game in the NBA, Saric is your average SF and the pick is 3 years from now. By that time Miami is likely to be a solid PO team. This package is crap. We are talking about Top 2 player.

Does the Lakers package really do anything? Lonzo’s shot still hasn’t proven to be consistent and brings outside drama and despite Ingram being a top pick he hasn’t really separated himself as a go to guy or franchise player.

No telling how Kyle Kuzma performs during year 2 when teams have him better scouted. Just saying it’s not like any of the Lakers prospects are showing great promise. Kuzma probably has the tools and attitude to pass the other two and those guys were number 2 picks.

I’m honestly not impressed with any of those guys and the Lakers aren’t going anywhere with that core. They are absolutely sweating until they can get Lebron/PG to commit.

When Magic is constantly reminding people he will quit if they don’t get a star or anyone is available it makes you wonder what’s the true value of the Lakers prospects. How invested is the franchise in the core if there seems to be no required loyalty to any of them.

[ocelot17]

I think Lebron knew where he was going all along. He’s going to LA.

He probably already filmed a promo for space jam 2 and at the end he reveals a lakers jersey.

[ISayshowmee]

Too funny reading posts from fans of teams not really in the running to get Kawhi —— Lakers’ young players are all trash, then turn around to over value their team’s trash.

[Jedi32]

That's ok. Lakers only have to worry about their own team. If the Spurs are willing to accept a worse offer from another team, more power to them. They're the ones that will have to explain it to their season ticket holders.

Pretty sure when they say they did this because “F the Lakers” the fans will applaud them. Feel like season ticket holders and hardcore fans would be more upset seeing their guy in a laker jersey.

I think fans care more about what's best for their team. Just my opinion.

Lol at least the smart one's do.

[starbosa10]

Pretty sure when they say they did this because “F the Lakers” the fans will applaud them. Feel like season ticket holders and hardcore fans would be more upset seeing their guy in a laker jersey.

I think fans care more about what's best for their team. Just my opinion.

Lol at least the smart one's do.

how is helping LA what's best for the Spurs? They're in the same conference

[disruptv3]

I still think Boston and 76ers are likeliest teams to end up with Kawhi.

If the 76ers wanted to, they could trade pieces for Kawhi, essentially gut their team and sign LeBron and Paul George.

They would likely just keep Simmons and trade Embiid in the Kawhi deal

That would be Simmons, Kawhi, George, LBj

I think Kawhi would have to give assurances to LeBron he was going to resign and even then LeBron may be set on going to LA. He might not want to trust Kawhi on where he signs his next contract either.

I don’t disagree. However if I’m the 76ers, I get word up to LeBron camp that “we can put the wheels in motion to get George, Kawhi and you LeBron”

Even if Kawhi doesn’t resign, if I’m the 76ers I take the risk and try to put the team together at worse, it’s simmons, lbj and George

[DirtyDez]

Does San Antonio want players who diss their teammates on rap tracks?

[The Penguin]

I think Lebron knew where he was going all along. He’s going to LA.

He probably already filmed a promo for space jam 2 and at the end he reveals a lakers jersey.

That’s what I’m waiting for. A promo for Space Jam 2 with Lebron / PG13 / Kawhi all wearing Lakers jerseys.

[LAL]

Saric, Roco, zhaire and the miami pick sixers got from us is better than taking Deng back

Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

[Black Mage]

If Ingram and Kuzma are so valuable why does LA want to trade them for Kawhi? Those guys are a lot more affordable and under cheaper deals for the next couple years? They're bonfide superstars in the making, right? Why not try to use them to lure Lebron to LA to form the great LBJ/Ingram/Kuzma dynasty.

"bonfide superstars in the making"

The point is, why pay for what you can get for free. The Lakers have a really good young core, and a superstar player takes that to new levels, so why trade all of that potential depth away just because your impatient or the players you want are. If these guys want to win with the best possible chances, they shouldn't want the Lakers to give up a lot to get them.

You're missing the obvious.

Scenario 1: Wait for Kawhi, PG stays in OKC. Lebron isn't coming to waste a year with those scrubs in LA.

Scenario 2: Wait for Kawhi, convince PG to come for max and get Lebron 1+1. Lakers won't have cap space to sign Kawhi to a max next year.

The only way the Lakers can get Lebron is to either land Kawhi THIS year or sign PG. Given Lebron want's to decide quickly the Lakers HAVE to do whatever it takes to land Kawhi. The Spurs know it and are playing hardball b/c they have Philly in the back pocket as a fallback option.

[Jedi32]

I think fans care more about what's best for their team. Just my opinion.

Lol at least the smart one's do.

how is helping LA what's best for the Spurs? They're in the same conference

Never said it was. I was just replying to the guy who said fans care more about what's best for their team,than just trying to say F U to a so called rival.

[starbosa10]

Saric, Roco, zhaire and the miami pick sixers got from us is better than taking Deng back

Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

I think they'll try to stay in the playoff picture, Pop is going to retire soon and can't see him sending his last years tanking. Tanking isn't as useful anymore with the lottery odd changes.

[Cavsfansince84]

I don’t disagree. However if I’m the 76ers, I get word up to LeBron camp that “we can put the wheels in motion to get George, Kawhi and you LeBron”

Even if Kawhi doesn’t resign, if I’m the 76ers I take the risk and try to put the team together at worse, it’s simmons, lbj and George

Well sure its a great deal for the Sixers if it gets LeBron to sign with them. Its just from LeBron's pov I doubt he would go for it. I don't think he is as desperate as some people think when it comes to being the favorite to win the title next year.

[jstross]

Saric, Roco, zhaire and the miami pick sixers got from us is better than taking Deng back

Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

An albatross of a contract doesn't help a team rebuilding at all. It acctually makes it harder. Deng contract vs 2021 unprotect heat pick is a no brainer for spurs.