TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding"

[Soca]

Custody battles get ugly fast. It's ok to get angry, but threats like this have to be taken seriously.

Agreed.

[MrDollarBills]

I am able to multi-task and have low tolerance for more than one thing at a time, I know shocking.

and you don't have to link me to the article, I already read it twice. it says NOTHING about getting the RECORDING from the court (why the **** would the court just give the recording to TMZ if it was part of the investigation)?

The court file is a public record. You could - right now - access any court file that you want. Reporters get access to lots of legal documents from court files. The only way a member of the public would be barred from accessing a court file would be a protective of confidentiality order from a court.

The principle of open courts is a fundamental part of the modern justice system. Anyone - including you - could just walk up to a court house and get any legal document that you want from any case whatsoever, subject to any local laws purporting to restrict this right (and further subject to constitutional / legal challenges to those laws).

It doesn't even make sense for TMZ to pay for what they're reporting. They can get it for free.

I have not heard - nor does it intuitively make sense - that TMZ would be under an obligation to report whenever they don't pay for a story. Or indeed any news agency. They may have an obligation to disclose when they did pay for a story - but I'm honestly sceptical that such a rule would exist.

But let's assume you are right - that the ex sold the court file and the court documents such as the police report to TMZ. She would have done all of this after she actually reported everything to the police. So your condemnation that she went to TMZ first is still a fantasy.

So I come back to my original point: it's telling that you've spent a lot of time defending Cousins threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head while calling the mother psychotic based - at least in part if not wholly - made up facts and your imagination.

TMZ doesn't have to disclose who/where they're resources are or where they obtain their recordings or vids or anything if they don't have to, and the court doesn't just release pertaining evidence in the midst of an investigation to the public.

and even if she went to the police first, it still doesn't make a difference regarding the overall intention, especially in this filing itself she literally says she's 'fine with her kid seeing Cousins'. she's all over the **** place.

and I'm defending Cousins by providing appropriate context to the situation, in which you and other self-righteous individuals are willing to completely ignore to flex nuts about how much of a white knight you are at the expense of the kid who probably just wants to see his father.

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

[AbeVigodaLive]

I've reconsidered.

There is proof that Cousins is a good dad in that photo. Here's a guy who's willing to wear a sweater and pants that he very clearly outgrew years ago to get his kid clothes that he fits into... and can grow into.

That's sacrifice. And good sound planning for the future. That's being a good dad.

[clyde21]

She obviously went to the police because they have a charge and she needs to sign a warrant for them to pursue it. And the records indicated she was open to 'supervised visitations." Your selective editing and conjecture in the face of facts is comical.

i know she said supervised, how the **** is that relevant to the point that she disallowed his kid from going to his fathers wedding and used him as a pawn in all of this? now all of the sudden she's 'open' to visitations, supervised or not?

Quit saying pawn. You're manufacturing that. And it's not all of a sudden. She said she wants a restraining order but is open to supervised - an important distinction - visitations. She isn't trying to keep his son from him. She seems to be rightfully concerned for his well-being, hence the supervisions.

I'm saying pawn because he's a pawn as she weaponized him in her fight with DMC, literally withholding him from attending his own father's wedding and recording the conversation int he process.

[TheNewEra]

This is definitely going to need more context. This has to be the perfect wedding gift from her to him. The PR hit from this alone will likely end him and if he has to play through a suspension it won’t be worth the distraction.

This recording was sent to the police before TMZ ever got their hands on it.

Just everything together is just so petty and childish on both sides. All this talk of mental health and the depression that comes from injuries and you don’t let this man have his child at his wedding? Cousins should of known better even being emotional and frustrated that anytime you can be recorded

[Duffman100]

The court file is a public record. You could - right now - access any court file that you want. Reporters get access to lots of legal documents from court files. The only way a member of the public would be barred from accessing a court file would be a protective of confidentiality order from a court.

The principle of open courts is a fundamental part of the modern justice system. Anyone - including you - could just walk up to a court house and get any legal document that you want from any case whatsoever, subject to any local laws purporting to restrict this right (and further subject to constitutional / legal challenges to those laws).

It doesn't even make sense for TMZ to pay for what they're reporting. They can get it for free.

I have not heard - nor does it intuitively make sense - that TMZ would be under an obligation to report whenever they don't pay for a story. Or indeed any news agency. They may have an obligation to disclose when they did pay for a story - but I'm honestly sceptical that such a rule would exist.

But let's assume you are right - that the ex sold the court file and the court documents such as the police report to TMZ. She would have done all of this after she actually reported everything to the police. So your condemnation that she went to TMZ first is still a fantasy.

So I come back to my original point: it's telling that you've spent a lot of time defending Cousins threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head while calling the mother psychotic based - at least in part if not wholly - made up facts and your imagination.

TMZ doesn't have to disclose who/where they're resources are or where they obtain their recordings or vids or anything if they don't have to, and the court doesn't just release pertaining evidence in the midst of an investigation to the public.

and even if she went to the police first, it still doesn't make a difference regarding the overall intention, especially in this filing itself she literally says she's 'fine with her kid seeing Cousins'. she's all over the **** place.

and I'm defending Cousins by providing appropriate context to the situation, in which you and other self-righteous individuals are willing to completely ignore to flex nuts about how much of a white knight you are at the expense of the kid who probably just wants to see his father.

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

100%. There's just too much violence against women to not immediately shut this down as insane.

[clyde21]

Actually this is what's reported:



Meaning she doesn't trust Cousins alone with her son. There's some context for you.

and until the judge/court agrees with her, she has no right to withhold Cousins' son from him, period.

What are you on about? It's the other way around if she has custody of the child and Cousins doesn't: he is only entitled to see his child according to a court ordered visitation schedule. I get you have a big hole to dig yourself out of, but let's cool it with the alternative facts.

you have no **** clue what their visitation schedule is like, all what we know is that DeMarcus asked for his son to be at his own wedding, in which she apparently used to spite the **** out of him in the process. i'm on about the facts that are right in front you.

[MrDollarBills]

This is definitely going to need more context. This has to be the perfect wedding gift from her to him. The PR hit from this alone will likely end him and if he has to play through a suspension it won’t be worth the distraction.

This recording was sent to the police before TMZ ever got their hands on it.

Just everything together is just so petty and childish on both sides. All this talk of mental health and the depression that comes from injuries and you don’t let this man have his child at his wedding? Cousins should of known better even being emotional and frustrated that anytime you can be recorded

I'm not defending her keeping her son from going to his wedding, but none of that remotely makes it okay for him to threaten to kill her. What the hell? How can you "both sides" a domestic violence issue?

Some of yall act like this is normal behavior or something to just shrug off. It's not. When people make threats like that they have to be taken 100% seriously, which is why I'm glad the police are involved now. Cousins is **** ed in his head.

[clyde21]

The court file is a public record. You could - right now - access any court file that you want. Reporters get access to lots of legal documents from court files. The only way a member of the public would be barred from accessing a court file would be a protective of confidentiality order from a court.

The principle of open courts is a fundamental part of the modern justice system. Anyone - including you - could just walk up to a court house and get any legal document that you want from any case whatsoever, subject to any local laws purporting to restrict this right (and further subject to constitutional / legal challenges to those laws).

It doesn't even make sense for TMZ to pay for what they're reporting. They can get it for free.

I have not heard - nor does it intuitively make sense - that TMZ would be under an obligation to report whenever they don't pay for a story. Or indeed any news agency. They may have an obligation to disclose when they did pay for a story - but I'm honestly sceptical that such a rule would exist.

But let's assume you are right - that the ex sold the court file and the court documents such as the police report to TMZ. She would have done all of this after she actually reported everything to the police. So your condemnation that she went to TMZ first is still a fantasy.

So I come back to my original point: it's telling that you've spent a lot of time defending Cousins threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head while calling the mother psychotic based - at least in part if not wholly - made up facts and your imagination.

TMZ doesn't have to disclose who/where they're resources are or where they obtain their recordings or vids or anything if they don't have to, and the court doesn't just release pertaining evidence in the midst of an investigation to the public.

and even if she went to the police first, it still doesn't make a difference regarding the overall intention, especially in this filing itself she literally says she's 'fine with her kid seeing Cousins'. she's all over the **** place.

and I'm defending Cousins by providing appropriate context to the situation, in which you and other self-righteous individuals are willing to completely ignore to flex nuts about how much of a white knight you are at the expense of the kid who probably just wants to see his father.

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

I'm not dying on any hill. How many times do I need to say that he shouldn't have said what he said and should be punished accordingly (no I DONT think he should banned from the NBA)

now, if you think 'im dying on this hill' because I don't want him banned from the NBA, so **** be it.

[XxIronChainzxX]

and until the judge/court agrees with her, she has no right to withhold Cousins' son from him, period.

What are you on about? It's the other way around if she has custody of the child and Cousins doesn't: he is only entitled to see his child according to a court ordered visitation schedule. I get you have a big hole to dig yourself out of, but let's cool it with the alternative facts.

you have no **** clue what their visitation schedule is like, all what we know is that DeMarcus asked for his son to be at his own wedding, in which she apparently used to spite the **** out of him in the process. i'm on about the facts that are right in front you.

This tirade has nothing to do with the alternative fact that you originally posted: that Cousins had a right to see and spend time with his child unless the court granted the restraining order at issue here. That's just not true.

It's possible that the mother was in violation of a court order / court imposed visitation when Cousins allegedly threatened her. That's speculation right now.

What does not change is that your post is factually wrong and part of a pattern where you have made something up to cast aspersions on the mother and defend Cousins threatening to murder her by shooting her in the head.

[MrDollarBills]

TMZ doesn't have to disclose who/where they're resources are or where they obtain their recordings or vids or anything if they don't have to, and the court doesn't just release pertaining evidence in the midst of an investigation to the public.

and even if she went to the police first, it still doesn't make a difference regarding the overall intention, especially in this filing itself she literally says she's 'fine with her kid seeing Cousins'. she's all over the **** place.

and I'm defending Cousins by providing appropriate context to the situation, in which you and other self-righteous individuals are willing to completely ignore to flex nuts about how much of a white knight you are at the expense of the kid who probably just wants to see his father.

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

I'm not dying on any hill. How many times do I need to say that he shouldn't have said what he said and should be punished accordingly (no I DONT think he should banned from the NBA)

now, if you think 'im dying on this hill' because I don't want him banned from the NBA, so **** be it.

You are defending him, that's literally the hill you've chosen. There is NO defense of someone who behaves like this. We can talk about how the mother is wrong for weaponizing the child, sure, but that's irrelevant to the fact that HE THREATENED TO HAVE HER KILLED. Are you serious?

[dlts20]

She obviously went to the police because they have a charge and she needs to sign a warrant for them to pursue it. And the records indicated she was open to 'supervised visitations." Your selective editing and conjecture in the face of facts is comical.

i know she said supervised, how the **** is that relevant to the point that she disallowed his kid from going to his fathers wedding and used him as a pawn in all of this? now all of the sudden she's 'open' to visitations, supervised or not?

Quit saying pawn. You're manufacturing that. And it's not all of a sudden. She said she wants a restraining order but is open to supervised - an important distinction - visitations. She isn't trying to keep his son from him. She seems to be rightfully concerned for his well-being, hence the supervisions.

Why do so many of you take women's words as gospel. I literally know men who buy everything for their child, has them half the time, and every single time the mother gets upset at something, she says things like "you will never see my child again", or '"we dont need you". Just because she said it, doesnt make stuff true but she knew that Cousins would talk reckless after getting fed up. Do you know how frustrating it is if you are a good father and a woman uses a child as a pawn? It happens all the time. Supervised vision doesnt necessarily mean that she fears for the childs safety. She could easily just say that on her high horse out of spite and people like you go for it. Now he screwed up and made that comment but Im not ready to say that that child is in any danger Nothing shows that except her own spiteful words. I honestly think that she recorded him because she was scared that he was going to go for joint custody after and this is a way to head it off. Now he has a huge uphill battle and it could be all straight bs that people fall for. Same thing with the me too movement. We just believe anything a woman says off top

[jason bourne]

Is she filing charges?

Otherwise, congrats to Boogie for his wedding and best wishes.

New wifey


Ex-gf

[clyde21]

I've reconsidered.

There is proof that Cousins is a good dad in that photo. Here's a guy who's willing to wear a sweater and pants that he very clearly outgrew years ago to get his kid clothes that he fits into... and can grow into.

That's sacrifice. And good sound planning for the future. That's being a good dad.

okay, let's play, where is your proof that he's not a good dad?

[Ice Trae]

Both handled the situation terribly. Cousins is a dumbass for saying that and the girl ain't any better, she knew what she was doing. Don't feel bad for both sides here. Come on now though, banning? If you're goona ban him for that might as well ban Wilder for saying he wants to kill people in the ring

[clyde21]

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

I'm not dying on any hill. How many times do I need to say that he shouldn't have said what he said and should be punished accordingly (no I DONT think he should banned from the NBA)

now, if you think 'im dying on this hill' because I don't want him banned from the NBA, so **** be it.

You are defending him, that's literally the hill you've chosen. There is NO defense of someone who behaves like this. We can talk about how the mother is wrong for weaponizing the child, sure, but that's irrelevant to the fact that HE THREATENED TO HAVE HER KILLED. Are you serious?

yes, I'm defending him in that 1) i don't think she's innocent in all of this and 2) I don't think he should be banned from the NBA, doesn't mean that I think he's right. it's not that hard to reconcile the two.

again, if that means I'm 'dying on the hill', I really don't give a ****.

[mesomorph]

Cousins is such a naive guy if he think he can ask his ex to bring his child to the wedding.
You could read many stories like this on menslavement.com when women use their children against fathers.
This is just 21st centurys reality, that we never hear on the news.

Sorry, not going to menslavement.com for information.

Hey relax, you dont need to go to menslavement, there is also reddit, YouTube etc.

[Smash3]

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

I'm not dying on any hill. How many times do I need to say that he shouldn't have said what he said and should be punished accordingly (no I DONT think he should banned from the NBA)

now, if you think 'im dying on this hill' because I don't want him banned from the NBA, so **** be it.

You are defending him, that's literally the hill you've chosen. There is NO defense of someone who behaves like this. We can talk about how the mother is wrong for weaponizing the child, sure, but that's irrelevant to the fact that HE THREATENED TO HAVE HER KILLED. Are you serious?

Relax, it's perfectly normal to have two thoughts in your head at the same time: "Demarcus is a POS for threatening to kill her" and "POS move by the girl not to allow him to see his son."

[XxIronChainzxX]

TMZ doesn't have to disclose who/where they're resources are or where they obtain their recordings or vids or anything if they don't have to, and the court doesn't just release pertaining evidence in the midst of an investigation to the public.

and even if she went to the police first, it still doesn't make a difference regarding the overall intention, especially in this filing itself she literally says she's 'fine with her kid seeing Cousins'. she's all over the **** place.

and I'm defending Cousins by providing appropriate context to the situation, in which you and other self-righteous individuals are willing to completely ignore to flex nuts about how much of a white knight you are at the expense of the kid who probably just wants to see his father.

You're defending a dude who threatened to shoot the mother of his child in the head, and allegedly "even if he didn't get his own hands dirty to do it". This is the hill you want to die on dude?

This isn't about white knighting, playing captain save a ho, none of that nonsense. No one is in here defending his baby mother, but taking Cousins to task for reprehensible behavior that frankly more than a few people in this thread clearly have no problem with since she's "a ho" or a "hoodrat gold digger".

Again...would you like it if your father talked to your mother that way, or some dude did that to a female relative of yours? Or does "context" matter when it comes to men threatening to kill women?

I'm not dying on any hill. How many times do I need to say that he shouldn't have said what he said and should be punished accordingly (no I DONT think he should banned from the NBA)

now, if you think 'im dying on this hill' because I don't want him banned from the NBA, so **** be it.

Let's play this game. How should Cousins be punished for threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't think he should be criminally charged for uttering threats.

You've previously said you don't think this threat should disqualify him from unsupervised visitation and custody, so I would assume you're opposed to a restraining order or supervised visitation.

You don't think he should be banned from the NBA. Do you think he should be suspended? Sanctioned in any way from the NBA?

Enlighten us. You have a "low tolerance" for violence against women. What punishment should Cousins face for this serious transgression that you clearly condemn and oppose?

[freethedevil]

sounds like the broad was withholding his child from him, definitely shouldn't have said that but I get the frustration...these nasty ass hood rats always using children as a meal ticket.

I mean, you don't really know the context right? You could be right, or maybe you're wrong. Maybe Cousins is a **** father ...

yea maybe he is, or maybe she's another hood rat gold digger that uses her child for $$$ like many of them do.

based on this convo it sounds like he was just begging her to let him see his kid?

Maybe, but you don't know, so stop acting like you do.