Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension

[TheFinishSniper]

Provided that I haven't watched that many Celtics games, but the games I have seen over the past few years, I've always come away with the mind that Brown is a vastly overrated defender. He is adequate, and shows glimpses of being a good defender, but I'd hardly call him a consistently good defender right now. He definitely has the potential to be a very solid two way player, but he has a ways to go.

I yet to see Brown clamp anyone on defense. He is solid defender for a wing. But vastly overrated.

[ITYSL]

Some context. So basically if JB gets the full amt, then it was a good deal. Still an overpay but I like these incentives

http://www.twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1186418525503705094

[PrimeThyme]

With so few free agents next summer, someone would have maxed him.

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Then so be it. The fact that other teams would have overpaid this summer as well still doesn't make it a great deal.

So what? The Celtics should just give up on players they draft and believe in long term? What kind of garbage logic is this?

The Celtics aren’t contending while they’ve got the current front court they do so this deal isn’t crippling the franchise if Brown doesn’t improve.

It’s a gamble on a young player with potential for growth at a time when the Celtics have limited options for big improvement. Thanks to what has transpired in the last 18 months Tatum and Brown are their path to contending.

I can see why they felt they needed to bring him back, I'm not arguing at this point that they shouldn't have (though I do think he should have been traded for a star player long ago). I still just think it's an overpay regardless. Using the excuse that other teams would have overpaid more for him this summer doesn't make this a great contract.

[HMFFL]

Guy barely gets selected in fantasy basketball. I don't understand why he can command that much money and Danny G paid it.
I suppose this will be his breakout year.

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[lonzo_pelota]

Buddy should of signed to Klutch, he'd have the proper brinks truck at his disposal not the mini brinks the kings gave him

[Vampirate]

I think Ainge is betting on Brown's performance in the playoffs to be the real version of him moving forwards. Time will tell if that's true.

[bisme37]

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Edit: oops sorry, someone already posted this tweet.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Then so be it. The fact that other teams would have overpaid this summer as well still doesn't make it a great deal.

So what? The Celtics should just give up on players they draft and believe in long term? What kind of garbage logic is this?

The Celtics aren’t contending while they’ve got the current front court they do so this deal isn’t crippling the franchise if Brown doesn’t improve.

It’s a gamble on a young player with potential for growth at a time when the Celtics have limited options for big improvement. Thanks to what has transpired in the last 18 months Tatum and Brown are their path to contending.

I can see why they felt they needed to bring him back, I'm not arguing at this point that they shouldn't have (though I do think he should have been traded for a star player long ago). I still just think it's an overpay regardless. Using the excuse that other teams would have overpaid more for him this summer doesn't make this a great contract.

Nobody is saying this is a great contract right now. Only time will tell on that front.

The Celtics are taking a gamble and a gamble worth taking considering the state of the team at present.

[PrimeThyme]

So what? The Celtics should just give up on players they draft and believe in long term? What kind of garbage logic is this?

The Celtics aren’t contending while they’ve got the current front court they do so this deal isn’t crippling the franchise if Brown doesn’t improve.

It’s a gamble on a young player with potential for growth at a time when the Celtics have limited options for big improvement. Thanks to what has transpired in the last 18 months Tatum and Brown are their path to contending.

I can see why they felt they needed to bring him back, I'm not arguing at this point that they shouldn't have (though I do think he should have been traded for a star player long ago). I still just think it's an overpay regardless. Using the excuse that other teams would have overpaid more for him this summer doesn't make this a great contract.

Nobody is saying this is a great contract right now. Only time will tell on that front.

The Celtics are taking a gamble and a gamble worth taking considering the state of the team at present.

I mean I was literally responding to a tweet someone posted where they said the Jaylen Brown deal was a great one? That's all I was saying.

[Sixerscan]

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So does this mean, if the Celtics win 49/round in any of the 4 years, he gets the full $4 million? Ditto making any all nba team/8. Or is it if happens in any individual year he gets 1/2?

Anyway after 3+ years of talking this guy up in trade talks it was good to see it wasn't all smoke on the part of the Celtics. They believe in him, time will tell how well founded that belief is.

[MagicBagley18]

First of all I'm not talking about 11 years ago (or frankly even two years ago), I'm talking about now. About Brown, Tatum, Hayward, etc.

If you're really focused on winning a title I don't see how their moves add up to any of that. They have guys they like and they're loyal to, and that's their MO.

And that's fine. But don't pretend they're seriously trying to contend.

Lol. Genuinely curious what else you think they can do right now?

Letting Tatum and Brown go doesn’t just magically give them all this room to sign all these star players.

There's no set formula, obviously. But after the last offseason? Letting the team slip back into the lottery in the next couple of year was the best path. As they have a decent core of guys you only need one or two good picks to set you in the right direction.

Right now it looks like they'll spinning their wheels while Tatum and Brown mature, but they'll be stuck back betting on free agency after Hayward / Kemba expire, without accumulating enough assets to help them contend along the way.

But this is a continuation of their decision to sign Kemba and continue to compete but not contend. So I'm not sure what they can do at this stage except a total 180.

Except they still have the Memphis pick potentially this year or next year when it’s unprotected, so we can still get one good player like you already suggested. So you add that to brown and Tatum the “good core “ you speak of and I don’t see the problem.

Hayward also if he plays well can opt out next season or we can trade him this year if he build his value up- getting a return we couldn’t have gotten if we sold him off in the summer when his value was at an all time low. So like you said there’s no set formula but your suggestion def isn’t it and is kind of what they are already doing.

[bisme37]

Then so be it. The fact that other teams would have overpaid this summer as well still doesn't make it a great deal.

So what? The Celtics should just give up on players they draft and believe in long term? What kind of garbage logic is this?

The Celtics aren’t contending while they’ve got the current front court they do so this deal isn’t crippling the franchise if Brown doesn’t improve.

It’s a gamble on a young player with potential for growth at a time when the Celtics have limited options for big improvement. Thanks to what has transpired in the last 18 months Tatum and Brown are their path to contending.

I can see why they felt they needed to bring him back, I'm not arguing at this point that they shouldn't have (though I do think he should have been traded for a star player long ago). I still just think it's an overpay regardless. Using the excuse that other teams would have overpaid more for him this summer doesn't make this a great contract.

All contracts are dictated by the market. So if he's in line for a max, getting him for less than a max is a good deal. No team gives huge contracts for the hell of it because they want to make their players rich. They give huge contracts because the market dictates that if you want that player he will cost you that much.

So the debate is whether the team thinks he will be worth what the market is dictating and whether they want to pay to keep him. Clearly Ainge and the C's made an educated bet that he will be worth that money over the next 4 years and they wanted to keep him.

[Klayforspicy]

He'll be as reliable as Jeff Green.

Ainge failed not trading for George or Kawhi when he had the chance.

[Wolfgang630]

Lmao stupid ass Ainge. Could’ve gotten rid of him earlier

[LakersSoul]

Who are the 25 super Celtics fans who voted for the team in the poll?

Danny Ainge turning the onceSuper bright Celtics team into a mediocre playoff team. That takes special GM and one hell of a vision.

Kudos Danny!

[Edug27]

He'll be as reliable as Jeff Green.

Ainge failed not trading for George or Kawhi when he had the chance.

Kawhi was a one and done.. and PG doesn’t get you a title.

Tired of this lame take.

[Steelo Green]

I am shocked that Ainge turned so many assets and such a nice future into this debacle.

[Up-And-Coming]

Yikes! I feel bad for Celtic's fans...

Actually nvm I don't

[bisme37]

Hey I just remembered the thread from two days ago where 90% of people self-assuredly called Brown an idiot for not taking 4/80. Good times.

[JShuttlesworth]

Similar to the Siakam deal in Toronto, I like this move by Boston. Overpay sure, but the right move to keep him in Boston. Let's see what Brown does this season, could be a big year.

These contracts are always tradeable down the road.