Kristaps Porzingis Is Indeed Available

[Pinkyring]

Sorry to break it to Mavs fans but Knick fans will be invested into ur team until 2023 when we get your picks

Seems like a miserable 2 yrs for you, enjoy

[Pinkyring]

No it doesn't

I think Kevin love for LMA is likelier than a KP for LMA swap

You are right. KP contract is awful. Spurs would need some sweeteners.

Awesome insight, u seem to be very smart

[iamworthy]

Sounds like a KP for LMA trade is inevitable.

No it doesn't

I think Kevin love for LMA is likelier than a KP for LMA swap

This is the right path to take when you don't want free agents to sign with you in the future. This dude is in the last stages of his career so the spurs sends him to Cleveland.... Yikes.

[jpengland]

Anybody know why he is such a negative on the defensive end this season, is it related to injuries? He seemed to have a positive impact on that end last year

He's completely turned it around the last stretch of games. It's all about his lateral movement and he's moving better during this Mavs winning streak

This.

He's always been an elite rim protector but this year his movement was just half a step behind all the time

Looks like he's knocked the rust off and found his legs. Hes massively improved on both sides of the ball.

Mavs now on a great run and one of the easiest schedules left the rest of the way.

If Luka and KP are rolling in the playoffs we will be a tough out for anybody.

[jpengland]

Take out January and he's averaging about 22 and 10 on nearly 40% from deep on about 30mpg

The hot takes of him being done were simply that. When he's healthy he remains a fantastic player and great fit with Luka Doncic.

[BlazersBroncos]

The hot takes of him being done were simply that. When he's healthy he remains a fantastic player and great fit with Luka Doncic.

Yep, even with injury I wasnt ready to write off his lateral movement at 25 years old. Guys just dont suddenly become statues. He is rounding into form.

Still think he is more of an elite #3 than a #2 though.

[danvato]

i didn't follow this discussion but just want to say that its pretty ridiculous that these NBA teams throw around massive $100m contracts at players and then less than 2 years into it are looking to get out of it. I really wish there were some rules to clean this stuff up.

[The_Hater]

KP looked really good last night. He was moving well with and without the ball. Seemed to have a spring in his step that has been lacking. Healthiest he’s looked all year.

He did just have surgery at the end of 2020 but apparently some people thought that he wouldn’t require any recovery time. He’s still a very good player who a lot of teams would love to have.

[Swish1906]

Why are people still writing in this garbage thread when the "supposed" shopping still didnt get confirmed by Woj, Shams or Stein?

[The_Hater]

i didn't follow this discussion but just want to say that its pretty ridiculous that these NBA teams throw around massive $100m contracts at players and then less than 2 years into it are looking to get out of it. I really wish there were some rules to clean this stuff up.

Whixh part needs to be cleaned up and what rules would you impose?

The money is guaranteed so the player isn’t exactly complaining. They win the lottery every month for years. And the team does have the right to trade that player, trades have been part of sports wince sports existed. At that point a different team will,be paying them their monthly lottery winnings. Heck, there was no trade market for Blake Griffin so the Pistons are going to pay him about $65 million to play basketball for a better team. That seems pretty rough for Blake....

[NYKnickerbocker]

Never thought he was done. Once he shakes off the rust he’s effective. But for how long? Lol. He’ll give you his 10-15 rusty games. Then he’ll give you 25-30 unicorn appearances then he gets hurt again and you start the process over

Reminds me of Amare on the Knicks after year one lol. 10 games of looking like a stiff, 15-20 games he’s back to STAT. Then uh oh they found debridement in his knees lol

[OrangeBlueSkies]

No it doesn't

I think Kevin love for LMA is likelier than a KP for LMA swap

This is the right path to take when you don't want free agents to sign with you in the future. This dude is in the last stages of his career so the spurs sends him to Cleveland.... Yikes.

He’s expiring. Cleveland can work out a buyout.


Cleveland gets out from Loves contract. Pop tries to revive Loves career.

Aldridge gets bought out and probably joins the Trail Blazers.

[urgal]

Never thought he was done. Once he shakes off the rust he’s effective. But for how long? Lol. He’ll give you his 10-15 rusty games. Then he’ll give you 25-30 unicorn appearances then he gets hurt again and you start the process over

Reminds me of Amare on the Knicks after year one lol. 10 games of looking like a stiff, 15-20 games he’s back to STAT. Then uh oh they found debridement in his knees lol

Stoudamire had chronic knee issues for years which is why the Knicks were being ridiculed for giving him that contract in the first place.

Porzingis thus far had two unrelated contact-injuries (not even in the same knee), so it's not really comparable.

I doubt he'll stay healthy the whole time, too, but people don't seem to realize that if it wasn't for that trade we'd be looking to build around Dennis Smith and a Jae Crowder-calibre free agency acquisition.

100/100 times Mavs should do this trade again.

[Dave DaButcher]

Take out January and he's averaging about 22 and 10 on nearly 40% from deep on about 30mpg

The hot takes of him being done were simply that. When he's healthy he remains a fantastic player and great fit with Luka Doncic.

“When he’s healthy” being a critical disclaimer with Porzingis.

[danvato]

i didn't follow this discussion but just want to say that its pretty ridiculous that these NBA teams throw around massive $100m contracts at players and then less than 2 years into it are looking to get out of it. I really wish there were some rules to clean this stuff up.

Whixh part needs to be cleaned up and what rules would you impose?

The money is guaranteed so the player isn’t exactly complaining. They win the lottery every month for years. And the team does have the right to trade that player, trades have been part of sports wince sports existed. At that point a different team will,be paying them their monthly lottery winnings. Heck, there was no trade market for Blake Griffin so the Pistons are going to pay him about $65 million to play basketball for a better team. That seems pretty rough for Blake....

I don't have any ideas on how to improve it but it's a problem. Teams overpay, then have to overpay again to get rid of a player, if that doesn't work they have to buy out a player causing playing through a contract is unheard of these days and you end up with already stacked teams picking up more players for peanuts.

[Scalabrine]

I think Kevin love for LMA is likelier than a KP for LMA swap

This is the right path to take when you don't want free agents to sign with you in the future. This dude is in the last stages of his career so the spurs sends him to Cleveland.... Yikes.

He’s expiring. Cleveland can work out a buyout.


Cleveland gets out from Loves contract. Pop tries to revive Loves career.

Aldridge gets bought out and probably joins the Trail Blazers.

Noone is taking on that Love deal at this point. It's about as bad as the Griffin deal. He just can't stay healthy.

[NYKnickerbocker]

Never thought he was done. Once he shakes off the rust he’s effective. But for how long? Lol. He’ll give you his 10-15 rusty games. Then he’ll give you 25-30 unicorn appearances then he gets hurt again and you start the process over

Reminds me of Amare on the Knicks after year one lol. 10 games of looking like a stiff, 15-20 games he’s back to STAT. Then uh oh they found debridement in his knees lol

Stoudamire had chronic knee issues for years which is why the Knicks were being ridiculed for giving him that contract in the first place.

Porzingis thus far had two unrelated contact-injuries (not even in the same knee), so it's not really comparable.

I doubt he'll stay healthy the whole time, too, but people don't seem to realize that if it wasn't for that trade we'd be looking to build around Dennis Smith and a Jae Crowder-calibre free agency acquisition.

100/100 times Mavs should do this trade again.

You definitely do the trade, got the better player by a wide margin (for now). But KP has only cracked 70 games once, he still got hurt in the bubble playoffs even after the pandemic break. I don’t think he’s built to hold up for more than 50-60 games. Hope he holds up, and y’all just underperform tho, need that lottery pick

[dirkforpres]

KP is a diva. Even Knicks fans admitted that when he was in New York.

Mav fans seem to be in denial for some reason

No, Knicks fans just want him to fail so badly that they forget there are people out there who want him to succeed. It’s been 2 years, get over it already

So if you owned an unprotected pick from a team, are you trying to tell me that you wouldn't want to see that team fail?

Tbh I don’t think the Knicks fans can ever really call any other team’s season(s) a failure after these past 20 years. I’m a Cowboys fan so I can relate.

Knicks made good use of the cap space and the Mavs got the best 3 players in the trade. Doesn’t that mean both teams won?

[BugginOut]

Never thought he was done. Once he shakes off the rust he’s effective. But for how long? Lol. He’ll give you his 10-15 rusty games. Then he’ll give you 25-30 unicorn appearances then he gets hurt again and you start the process over

Reminds me of Amare on the Knicks after year one lol. 10 games of looking like a stiff, 15-20 games he’s back to STAT. Then uh oh they found debridement in his knees lol

Stoudamire had chronic knee issues for years which is why the Knicks were being ridiculed for giving him that contract in the first place.

Porzingis thus far had two unrelated contact-injuries (not even in the same knee), so it's not really comparable.

I doubt he'll stay healthy the whole time, too, but people don't seem to realize that if it wasn't for that trade we'd be looking to build around Dennis Smith and a Jae Crowder-calibre free agency acquisition.

100/100 times Mavs should do this trade again.

Amare played all 82 games for the Suns the year before we signed him and then went on to play 78 games for us his first year. Other than Porzingis's rookie year he has never played more than 70 games in a season.

Porzingis' problem is not the knee injuries, its the fact that he is anemic and doesn't have the stamina to play a full 82 game season. That is why the more games he plays the more likely he is to get injured because he gets tired and starts making mistakes which causes his body to break down.

Of course KP is going to look good coming back after a week off. But, the Mavs are tied for first for B2B games the second half of the schedule. Is KP going to still look good after playing 3 games in 4 day? I guess we will see.

[matt6715]

Mark Cuban was on a Mavs podcast this week and essentially said "no moves before the deadline unless they are no-brainer superstar type deals". Mavs won't move off KP for less than a home run return, and nobody in the league right now would give up that much to get KP. This is all smoke, no fire. No deal will happen before the TDL.