Giannis just made a lot of these nba stars look pathetic

[Sidthekid87]

I really hope the young gen in the NBA sees the difference in how this and the 2019 chip and the 2014 chip and 2011 chip are celebrated compared to the others. **** superteams.

[papfankon]

For those making claims about the various injuries across the playoffs. My favorite player growing up was Vince Carter. Up until i was 20 years old (2008), i was stating proudly that Vince was more talented than Kobe and that IF he had been drafted by the lakers and played with Shaq he would have been more successful. This ofcourse is insanity as it is simply not how linearity works.
Guess what. It has always been a war of attrition. In crazytown that many of you apparently reside, i can make the case that Vince was way more talented (visual image of him playing basketball is definitely all all- time level ,but that does not equate to being the best) than any of the guys in his era ,but his body simply couldn't take the marathon that the nba season is. Prove me wrong( you can't).


Harden left Houston eating his way out of there and neglecting his body. The result was that by season's end a fat shooting guard had severe harmstring issues. Shocking. If he respected his craft as much as Giannis does he never would have gotten into that
shape.

Those who argue about what constitutes a superteam are missing the point(especially with ex post facto rationalizations) . It is primarily about the willingness to try and make the best of a situation that some ping pong balls landed you. It certainly is a two way street and the Bucks did a way better job than early Cleveland Lebron, but perseverence and loyalty is what connects you with a fanbase and you become something more than a name on a jersey to certain people.

[fteru6uhre54ew]

Damn a lot of people was waiting to strech this situation lol. I think that Luka for example what he has faced in the first round in this playoffs was more tough than the Conference Semifinals and Finals and the Nba finals that Giannis has faced.

Only the Clippers with Kawhi is much more tough to beat in 7 games that KD alone and a bunch of G-League players, the Atlanta Hawks of Trae Young and this Suns team with Paul more old than the dust as a leader.

[Knightfall]

Damn a lot of people was waiting to strech this situation lol. I think that Luka for example what he has faced in the first round in this playoffs was more tough than the Conference Semifinals and Finals and the Nba finals that Giannis has faced.

Only the Clippers with Kawhi is much more tough to beat in 7 games that KD alone and a bunch of G-League players, the Atlanta Hawks of Trae Young and this Suns team with Paul more old than the dust as a leader.

And all those years that paul was injured. Damn.

[WeSkrongDen]

Damn a lot of people was waiting to strech this situation lol. I think that Luka for example what he has faced in the first round in this playoffs was more tough than the Conference Semifinals and Finals and the Nba finals that Giannis has faced.

Only the Clippers with Kawhi is much more tough to beat in 7 games that KD alone and a bunch of G-League players, the Atlanta Hawks of Trae Young and this Suns team with Paul more old than the dust as a leader.

Clippers didn't really show up most of the series, they should have won it pretty easily. Luka's supporting cast is ass too. If you're second best player is Tim Hardaway Jr, you messed up.

[SeniorWalker]

If I hear another word about fat boy Luka Doncic before this dude even makes it out of the first round....I'm gonna effing puke. I'm sick to death of it. He has the ball all the time, takes all the shots on his team and plays zero defense. The Mavs weren't a very good team and he scored a lot on a clippers team that was intentionally allowing him to take all the shots for the majority of the series.

You do not become an NBA legend by being a shot jacker and failing to make it out the first round. Is he very talented? Yes. Can he get a better team and go further? Perhaps. But until he does, close your traps about him.

The same thing was done with the all the greats, including MJ, LeBron, etc. if you think he's really that good (I certainly do not) then hush and wait.

For now, I don't wanna hear him in the top 5 conversation until he gets outta the 1st round. Giannis just won a chip, Steph is a multiple time champ and MVP, Jokic won MVP and made it to the WCF last year and 2nd Rd this year with little help. Etc etc.

Point is, Luka has to wait.

[fteru6uhre54ew]

Damn a lot of people was waiting to strech this situation lol. I think that Luka for example what he has faced in the first round in this playoffs was more tough than the Conference Semifinals and Finals and the Nba finals that Giannis has faced.

Only the Clippers with Kawhi is much more tough to beat in 7 games that KD alone and a bunch of G-League players, the Atlanta Hawks of Trae Young and this Suns team with Paul more old than the dust as a leader.

And all those years that paul was injured. Damn.

Chris Paul never has been a player being him the leader of his team who could win a ring as a first option. Because never has been the enough good to win a ring as a first option. And this has been all his career so stop overrating him. Never has been and win a WCF until this year with all the consequences of this playoffs.

If he could won a ring was for Harden and James Harden and the Houston Rockets probably could win this ring too. Because he faced the Warriors and last year the Lakers with multiple superstars in those teams in the last 5 years. And I hate Harden as a player.

[Sidthekid87]

If I hear another word about fat boy Luka Doncic before this dude even makes it out of the first round....I'm gonna effing puke. I'm sick to death of it. He has the ball all the time, takes all the shots on his team and plays zero defense. The Mavs weren't a very good team and he scored a lot on a clippers team that was intentionally allowing him to take all the shots for the majority of the series.

You do not become an NBA legend by being a shot jacker and failing to make it out the first round. Is he very talented? Yes. Can he get a better team and go further? Perhaps. But until he does, close your traps about him.

The same thing was done with the all the greats, including MJ, LeBron, etc. if you think he's really that good (I certainly do not) then hush and wait.

For now, I don't wanna hear him in the top 5 conversation until he gets outta the 1st round. Giannis just won a chip, Steph is a multiple time champ and MVP, Jokic won MVP and made it to the WCF last year and 2nd Rd this year with little help. Etc etc.

Point is, Luka has to wait.

What an awful awful take. Luka just finished his 3rd year. He's boxed 12 rounds b2b years with arguably the best 2 way playoff performer of our generation. MJ hadn't seen a 2nd round at this point in his career either, but if you had eyes everyone knew the mfer was absolutely on a different level. I don't understand how you can discredit a kid who has the highest playoff point per game average ever. Crazy to me

[WeSkrongDen]

If I hear another word about fat boy Luka Doncic before this dude even makes it out of the first round....I'm gonna effing puke. I'm sick to death of it. He has the ball all the time, takes all the shots on his team and plays zero defense. The Mavs weren't a very good team and he scored a lot on a clippers team that was intentionally allowing him to take all the shots for the majority of the series.

You do not become an NBA legend by being a shot jacker and failing to make it out the first round. Is he very talented? Yes. Can he get a better team and go further? Perhaps. But until he does, close your traps about him.

The same thing was done with the all the greats, including MJ, LeBron, etc. if you think he's really that good (I certainly do not) then hush and wait.

For now, I don't wanna hear him in the top 5 conversation until he gets outta the 1st round. Giannis just won a chip, Steph is a multiple time champ and MVP, Jokic won MVP and made it to the WCF last year and 2nd Rd this year with little help. Etc etc.

Point is, Luka has to wait.

Luka's team is absolute dogchit. Tim Hardaway Jr? Give me a break.

[WarriorGM]

So now you saying majority of the NBA is trash and James Harden is playing against burger flippers.

We got Tom Brady would works out and eats mana from heaven and he stuck with a dad bod and woefully unathletic and any joe blow off the street can beat in a foot race.

James Harden who is the 3 time scoring champ, MVP, but apparently all he does is eat chicken wings, smokes weed and goes to strip clubs.

Still haven't told me how a 3 time scoring champ can be lazy and out shape in the best basketball league in the world other than he is naturally talented which means most of the NBA isn't talented or they are lazy.

But Tom Brady isn't lazy and he is stuck with dad bod and a 5.08 40 yard dash and a 22 inch vertical but I guess he works so hard and brings his lunchpail to work while James Harden is coasting in the best league in the world, with his 35 points a game.

Shaq was lazy and out of shape and dominated the league far greater than Harden ever did. Yet he was was notorious for his poor diet, his lackluster work ethic, and for showing up to training camp overweight and using the regular season to get into shape. You can be a great player and also be lazy; those two aren’t mutually exclusive. Harden’s problem isn’t his lack of talent; he’s insanely talented. But he lack the work ethic to put him on the same level as other players like LeBron, Durant, Giannis, Steph, Kwahi, all of which were able to elevate their games at the highest level.

Curry isn't on those guys levels, guy doesn't even have a finals MVP lol.

Wow you're right! None of the other guys have led a team to 70 wins. That Steph hasn't gotten a FMVP is also a sign of the bias he is operating against which if anything makes him more impressive.

Steph is on a higher level.

[Chanel Bomber]

KD definitely does (look pathetic).

LeBron's championship in Cleveland is one of the greatest in NBA history though. Let's not forget neither Kyrie nor Love had played a single playoff game before LeBron's return - they had no postseason experience.

[WeSkrongDen]

Shaq was lazy and out of shape and dominated the league far greater than Harden ever did. Yet he was was notorious for his poor diet, his lackluster work ethic, and for showing up to training camp overweight and using the regular season to get into shape. You can be a great player and also be lazy; those two aren’t mutually exclusive. Harden’s problem isn’t his lack of talent; he’s insanely talented. But he lack the work ethic to put him on the same level as other players like LeBron, Durant, Giannis, Steph, Kwahi, all of which were able to elevate their games at the highest level.

Curry isn't on those guys levels, guy doesn't even have a finals MVP lol.

Wow you're right! None of the other guys have a led a team to 70 wins. That Steph hasn't gotten an FMVP is also a sign of the bias he is operating against which if anything makes him more impressive.

Steph is on a higher level.

That team didn't even win a championship lol. The only year he was even in consideration of being Finals MVP was pre Durant and he got outplayed by Iguodala. Curry had a 104 offensive rating and 102 defensive rating. Iguodala had a 117 offensive rating and 100 defensive rating.

[Young gun 6]

Isn’t this jsut the same as Kawhi 2019?

Both faced weak or injured teams. Doesn’t prove you can win without a super team in this error.

Game 5 the whole team was basically unbeatable as well. They were an elite team, just because they have a competent GM that could put elite pieces around him doesn’t mean it wasn’t a super team imo.

Similar to Raps in 2019 to an extent. Jrue, Middleton, BroLo v Lowry, Siakam, Ibaka.

[Knightfall]

Damn a lot of people was waiting to strech this situation lol. I think that Luka for example what he has faced in the first round in this playoffs was more tough than the Conference Semifinals and Finals and the Nba finals that Giannis has faced.

Only the Clippers with Kawhi is much more tough to beat in 7 games that KD alone and a bunch of G-League players, the Atlanta Hawks of Trae Young and this Suns team with Paul more old than the dust as a leader.

And all those years that paul was injured. Damn.

Chris Paul never has been a player being him the leader of his team who could win a ring as a first option. Because never has been the enough good to win a ring as a first option. And this has been all his career so stop overrating him. Never has been and win a WCF until this year with all the consequences of this playoffs.

If he could won a ring was for Harden and James Harden and the Houston Rockets probably could win this ring too. Because he faced the Warriors and last year the Lakers with multiple superstars in those teams in the last 5 years. And I hate Harden as a player.

Still crying for no reason.

[fteru6uhre54ew]

And all those years that paul was injured. Damn.

Chris Paul never has been a player being him the leader of his team who could win a ring as a first option. Because never has been the enough good to win a ring as a first option. And this has been all his career so stop overrating him. Never has been and win a WCF until this year with all the consequences of this playoffs.

If he could won a ring was for Harden and James Harden and the Houston Rockets probably could win this ring too. Because he faced the Warriors and last year the Lakers with multiple superstars in those teams in the last 5 years. And I hate Harden as a player.

Still crying for no reason.

Great argument

[WeSkrongDen]

Isn’t this jsut the same as Kawhi 2019?

Both faced weak or injured teams. Doesn’t prove you can win without a super team in this error.

Game 5 the whole team was basically unbeatable as well. They were an elite team, just because they have a competent GM that could put elite pieces around him doesn’t mean it wasn’t a super team imo.

Similar to Raps in 2019 to an extent. Jrue, Middleton, BroLo v Lowry, Siakam, Ibaka.

You can just look at the Finals stats, Giannis put the team on his back. Middleton and Holiday are nice players, not elite.

[Young gun 6]

Isn’t this jsut the same as Kawhi 2019?

Both faced weak or injured teams. Doesn’t prove you can win without a super team in this error.

Game 5 the whole team was basically unbeatable as well. They were an elite team, just because they have a competent GM that could put elite pieces around him doesn’t mean it wasn’t a super team imo.

Similar to Raps in 2019 to an extent. Jrue, Middleton, BroLo v Lowry, Siakam, Ibaka.

You can just look at the Finals stats, Giannis put the team on his back. Middleton and Holiday are nice players, not elite.

Jrue is probably the best guard defender in the league. He was +37 the highest of any Milwaukee player.

Middleton averaged 24/6/5/2 on 45/36/89 and single handily won a couple of games for them late clutch.

Jrue + Middleton is as good as Kyrie + Love was for Lebron.

Wouldn’t say his team is anymore of a super team than Bucks outside of how it was formed.

Love put up 8pts on 36% FG and 25% 3pt in finals series with no defense.

[ratul]

The feels I get from a small market winning plus a greek guy overcoming the odds without a super team is just amazing. Congrats to the Bucks!

[WeSkrongDen]

:cry:

Isn’t this jsut the same as Kawhi 2019?

Both faced weak or injured teams. Doesn’t prove you can win without a super team in this error.

Game 5 the whole team was basically unbeatable as well. They were an elite team, just because they have a competent GM that could put elite pieces around him doesn’t mean it wasn’t a super team imo.

Similar to Raps in 2019 to an extent. Jrue, Middleton, BroLo v Lowry, Siakam, Ibaka.

You can just look at the Finals stats, Giannis put the team on his back. Middleton and Holiday are nice players, not elite.

Jrue is probably the best guard defender in the league. He was +37 the highest of any Milwaukee player.

Middleton averaged 24/6/5/2 on 45/36/89 and single handily won a couple of games for them late clutch.

Jrue + Middleton is as good as Kyrie + Love was for Lebron.

Wouldn’t say his team is anymore of a super team than Bucks outside of how it was formed.

Love put up 8pts on 36% FG and 25% 3pt in finals series with no defense.

Middleton and Holiday both finished with negative offensive to defensive ratings lol. Giannis literally had one of the most insane finals of all time, arguably the best finals performance of all time. If those guys came to play then the series would have been a wipe. Kyrie + Love was better just because Kyrie was that damn good. Love didn't show up but Kyrie was significantly better than Middleton or Holiday. Kyrie also locked up Curry too. Better defensive rating than either of those guys in his Finals. Thompson was also significantly better than Lopez. Beastly numbers in those Finals. Team was way more stacked than the Bucks.

[Lalouie]

some of these stars, kd at least, has tweeted a congrats.

i would like to think that giannis has reminded these guys of why they play the game. yes they all want to win a ring, but they didn't grow up or even enter the league wanting to amass talent in order to smother the rest of the league,,,,,,,,except maybe lebron.

they play the game to "compete". giannis just now reminded tem of that