I don't get the notion that Lakers are absolutely stacked

[tamaraw08]

If rondo acts up he's traded or waived Russ will be more important when it comes to winning.
But moving back on topic there's not many team's with the collection of talent the lakers have and I disagree with those who say Brooklyn is on another level.

Dwight Howard 7ppg 8.4rpg 59%fg 1ast 1 block 16 mpg
Melo Anthony 13.4ppg 3.1rpg 41%3pt 24mpg
Kendrick Nunn 14.6ppg 3.2rpg 38%3pt 2.6apg 29mpg
Malik Monk 11.7ppg 2.4rpg 40%3pt 2apg 20mpg
Kent Bazemore 7ppg 3.4rpg 41%3pt 20 mpg
Trevor Ariza 9ppg 4.8rpg 35%3pt 28mpg
Wayne Ellington 9.6ppg 42%3pt 22mpg
THT 9ppg 2.6rpg 2.8apg 20mpg
Rondo 7.6 ppg 3rpg 5.8apg 43%3pt 20mpg
D Jordan 7.6ppg 7.6rpg 76%fg 1bpg 22mpg

If this ain't a deep team OP show me 5 teams with a better group of role players.

Another post mentioning players with their last years's 3pt%
I really think we all have to take a larger sample size to have a better idea if these players are really good shooters or not and not the just the previous year they played.
Dennis Schroder shot 38% from 3 before the Lakers traded for him and look what happened.
Troy Daniels also shot 38% in Phoenix and just shot under 35%.
Danny Green shot 45% from 3 in Toronto, we all know what happened.
Quinn Cook shot 40.5% before the Lakers acquired him then just shot 36.5%
Reggie Bullock shot 39% before they traded for him, then just shot 34%.
Malik Monk shot poorly the first 2 years and got better in his contract year and Charlotte passed, what's their reason?
Bazemore also shot well but just played 20 mins, why?
Ellington seems to be the most consistently good shooter, but we'll see.
We also need to consider that the new acquisitions will not have the same number of touches= shot opportunities.

Effect of Lebron ball. When one player controls ball that much other players just get touches to shoot 3s. It has significant impact on player's confidence and feel to the game directly affecting their shooting.

But how come it was not the case in Cleveland where they were always top 6 in 3pt%?

[CodeBreaker]

I think LeBron's first big 3 was his best. That being said if LeBron could thrive with Wade he can thrive with WB

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tbf, that was prime LeBron

[JN61]

Another post mentioning players with their last years's 3pt%
I really think we all have to take a larger sample size to have a better idea if these players are really good shooters or not and not the just the previous year they played.
Dennis Schroder shot 38% from 3 before the Lakers traded for him and look what happened.
Troy Daniels also shot 38% in Phoenix and just shot under 35%.
Danny Green shot 45% from 3 in Toronto, we all know what happened.
Quinn Cook shot 40.5% before the Lakers acquired him then just shot 36.5%
Reggie Bullock shot 39% before they traded for him, then just shot 34%.
Malik Monk shot poorly the first 2 years and got better in his contract year and Charlotte passed, what's their reason?
Bazemore also shot well but just played 20 mins, why?
Ellington seems to be the most consistently good shooter, but we'll see.
We also need to consider that the new acquisitions will not have the same number of touches= shot opportunities.

Effect of Lebron ball. When one player controls ball that much other players just get touches to shoot 3s. It has significant impact on player's confidence and feel to the game directly affecting their shooting.

But how come it was not the case in Cleveland where they were always top 6 in 3pt%?

I didn't say you can't have excellent shooting team but that individual 3 point shooting is more likely to drop if your touches are very limited.

[BostonCouchGM]

well, you're definitely wrong and they definitely are. This is the most talented roster Lebron has ever had. It should be obvious but if you can't see it then not much can be said to make that happen. Getting Ajayi and Reaves as 2nd rounders is really what is going to make all the difference in the world. And I'm not being hyperbolic. They're both switchable defenders that have good size with high BBIQ and who can shoot. Both were first round talents that forced their way to the Lakers and top heavy teams lucking out and getting high end role players for so cheap is massive and should be talked about more. Westbrook is going to average a triple double and Lebron will be able to rest a tad more. It's going to be pretty insane in LA. They're a lock to make the Finals and favorites to win it all

[LakersSquadup]

Honestly, if they're able to take this poorly fitting, old roster to a championship I'll be pretty damn impressed.

Their team is like a Rolls-Royce, but it's old, has a broken fender, and is prone to just shot down whenever you have to drive it uphill.

Also it has parts from other cars in it that don't jive well.

It's a fair assessment but that's the whole point of acquiring other back up players who can fill in.
Howard gets injured, then play Jordan.
Ellington gets hurt or struggles, then put in Nunn or vice versa.
Westbrook is not working out, then play Rondo.
Anthony will probably play about 15-20 mins but heck if he turn out to be good but gets sidelined for an injury, then tap Ariza.
Their main engine is AD, if this dude, God forbid miss a ton of games, then it's game over, but pretty much you can say about the Bucks or Dallas etc.

Nothings fair about that assessment. Melo and Howard both played 69 games last season how many did KD and Kyrie play? I see people like repeating garbage about age meanwhile Melo and Howard both played in the bubble and played damn near every game last season afterwards. We’re not expecting them to play 30 plus mins so all this old man talk is a little overblown. The Lakers role players are toast but the Nets have a half dead man on their roster and that’s fine. Even though Kyrie and KD combined for 20 games the season before None of the Nets stars played more than 54 games last season but I keep hearing the health and load management around the Lakers.

[tamaraw08]

Honestly, if they're able to take this poorly fitting, old roster to a championship I'll be pretty damn impressed.

Their team is like a Rolls-Royce, but it's old, has a broken fender, and is prone to just shot down whenever you have to drive it uphill.

Also it has parts from other cars in it that don't jive well.

It's a fair assessment but that's the whole point of acquiring other back up players who can fill in.
Howard gets injured, then play Jordan.
Ellington gets hurt or struggles, then put in Nunn or vice versa.
Westbrook is not working out, then play Rondo.
Anthony will probably play about 15-20 mins but heck if he turn out to be good but gets sidelined for an injury, then tap Ariza.
Their main engine is AD, if this dude, God forbid miss a ton of games, then it's game over, but pretty much you can say about the Bucks or Dallas etc.

Nothings fair about that assessment. Melo and Howard both played 69 games last season how many did KD and Kyrie play? I see people like repeating garbage about age meanwhile Melo and Howard both played in the bubble and played damn near every game last season afterwards. We’re not expecting them to play 30 plus mins so all this old man talk is a little overblown. The Lakers role players are toast but the Nets have a half dead man on their roster and that’s fine. Even though Kyrie and KD combined for 20 games the season before None of the Nets stars played more than 54 games last season but I keep hearing the health and load management around the Lakers.

Melo played 24 mins/game last year compared to 38 mins 7 years ago. I think the 2 main reasons for that is that he is not as quick and athletic like before and that older players tend to get hurt or give less output if they play longer minutes, same with Howard who play 17 mins/game. So they were able to play more games bec they were relatively fresher. Kyrie has been very moody, taking games off from various questionable reasons IMO. This current Nets team might coast through the regular season but "experts" were so impressed based on how they played together (yes I know it was limited)making them top Favorites to win it all. I don't necessarily agree bec they have no one to defend a healthy Anthony Davis IMO. A healthy AD too will wreak havoc on the defensive end.

[LakersSquadup]

It's a fair assessment but that's the whole point of acquiring other back up players who can fill in.
Howard gets injured, then play Jordan.
Ellington gets hurt or struggles, then put in Nunn or vice versa.
Westbrook is not working out, then play Rondo.
Anthony will probably play about 15-20 mins but heck if he turn out to be good but gets sidelined for an injury, then tap Ariza.
Their main engine is AD, if this dude, God forbid miss a ton of games, then it's game over, but pretty much you can say about the Bucks or Dallas etc.

Nothings fair about that assessment. Melo and Howard both played 69 games last season how many did KD and Kyrie play? I see people like repeating garbage about age meanwhile Melo and Howard both played in the bubble and played damn near every game last season afterwards. We’re not expecting them to play 30 plus mins so all this old man talk is a little overblown. The Lakers role players are toast but the Nets have a half dead man on their roster and that’s fine. Even though Kyrie and KD combined for 20 games the season before None of the Nets stars played more than 54 games last season but I keep hearing the health and load management around the Lakers.

Melo played 24 mins/game last year compared to 38 mins 7 years ago. I think the 2 main reasons for that is that he is not as quick and athletic like before and that older players tend to get hurt or give less output if they play longer minutes, same with Howard who play 17 mins/game. So they were able to play more games bec they were relatively fresher. Kyrie has been very moody, taking games off from various questionable reasons IMO. This current Nets team might coast through the regular season but "experts" were so impressed based on how they played together (yes I know it was limited)making them top Favorites to win it all. I don't necessarily agree bec they have no one to defend a healthy Anthony Davis IMO. A healthy AD too will wreak havoc on the defensive end.

You’re talking about their mins like the Lakers want them to play 30 mpg. I’m fine with the expert ranking them higher than my Lakers. They did see them play 7 games together and we having seen the Lakers Big 3 yet unless you’re talking about the all star game last season.

[UcanUwill]

Looks even worse than I imagined, are there still people who think Westbrick is MVP caliber, that was a good joke while it lasted.

[Goomba3666]

No excuses. Team is stacked with talent, hall of famers, championships, record holders, and etc.

Anything less than a ring is a failure with a stacked deck.

[Tracymcgoaty]

No excuses. Team is stacked with talent, hall of famers, championships, record holders, and etc.

Anything less than a ring is a failure with a stacked deck.

Why cant a 70 year old Mike Tyson still dominate boxing man. Look at his records and titles.

[Goomba3666]

No excuses. Team is stacked with talent, hall of famers, championships, record holders, and etc.

Anything less than a ring is a failure with a stacked deck.

Why cant a 70 year old Mike Tyson still dominate boxing man. Look at his records and titles.

As an avid boxing fan, I have NO clue why you're using this comparison.

[MindState]

Lakers will get better as the season goes on. Somehow this already old team that cant defend, will get younger as times goes on and all the sudden get better defensively I guess?

[Tracymcgoaty]

No excuses. Team is stacked with talent, hall of famers, championships, record holders, and etc.

Anything less than a ring is a failure with a stacked deck.

Why cant a 70 year old Mike Tyson still dominate boxing man. Look at his records and titles.

As an avid boxing fan, I have NO clue why you're using this comparison.

You're talking about a bunch of record holders a team stacked with talent as if we're talking about Denver Melo MVP Westbrook prime Rondo Orlando Howard etc etc. We are Old and play no defense.

[MindState]

This is basically the 2012 Lakers all over again. Assemble a team of past their prime old former stars and hope they can find the fountain of youth over an 82 game season.

[Goomba3666]

Why cant a 70 year old Mike Tyson still dominate boxing man. Look at his records and titles.

As an avid boxing fan, I have NO clue why you're using this comparison.

You're talking about a bunch of record holders a team stacked with talent as if we're talking about Denver Melo MVP Westbrook prime Rondo Orlando Howard etc etc. We are Old and play no defense.

There's a way to maximize the talent on this roster.

No excuses. Lots of experience on this roster too. It'll pay dividends going forward.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Finally found why this team wont play defense.

Watch on YouTube

Cant have that in the lockerroom.

[Liam_Gallagher]

I have to chuckle at the "wait til we get Nunn and Ariza back before we judge this team" comments in the game thread.

Dude, you just get destroyed by the Celtics without Jaylen Brown and you're complaining about Nunn and Reaves being out.

[darmani]

lol...they have 3 MVP caliber players on the roster, and are 10+ deep with vets.

they are not Brooklyn or 17 Warriors, but this team is absolutely stacked by almost every other measure.

Yup. Absolutely stacked.

[The411]

Looks like I was correct vis a vis my post about the Warrior having a better roster. Shame about Wiseman, but if he doesn’t have Greg Oden knees I still think he’ll come good.

[art_tatum]

Lebron and AD being good is an understatement.
They were too 5 players in 2020.
It’s like saying a team with curry +KD isn’t unfair
Now add Westbrook and yes they are stacked theoretically based on the past couple years.
Not my fault all 3 have a down year for different reasons and can’t play together as well