Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap...

[magee]

Magic set the market. 3 unprotected picks and a swap for Desmond Bane is very rich. Idk what giannis will go for now

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To the Lakers for a first rounder* Vanderbilt, Vincent and Hachimura.

*Edited to have the first rounder in the correct part of the deal. Haha.

[Lenneth]

I mean, I think it's an expensive deal and always dangerous to trade multiple unprotected picks. But, that's what it takes to take the next step by bringing two-time MVP, Giannis. Wait, it's for Desmond Bane?

[Bucks4005]

I mean, people saying this is an overpay, but this is a 20-5-5 player, been part of good defensive teams, has size and fixes their biggest issue in 3 point shooting.

Plus, everyone says these major trades don’t work lit, but in the end, aren’t they closer to 50-50 it seems working out?

Like, Durant, Harden, and Lillard trades have failed for the teams that made them, sure.

But then you got the Jrue who helped get the Bucks a championship. Mitchell and Gobert got their teams over the initial hump of being a borderline playoff team and now their perenial contenders. Mikel even was a key piece in the Knicks finally making a ECF.

Like, everyone sees 4 first rounders and says overpay. But in general, almost always these teams end up much better and contend in the playoffs, even with the Harden, George, Durant type trades.

In terms of impact, I get it, they don’t have
a true PG, but cant really afford not to start Suggs because his defense is that impactful for a G, but now they legitimately have 3 20-5-5 type players all in their starting lineup. Like, you can run your offense through any one of them any given possession, that’s something not every team has.

If u were them, I’d look to package Carter for a better bench big who can spread the floor a bit more or 3 point volume type PG/SG type to spread the floor. Feel Wagner the C is a better fit offensively for this team due to the spacing and the overall size with the rest of the starting lineup will offset some the potential defensive/boards issue starting Moritz might bring.

[TheGOATWill]

In fairness to Orlando…from 3 vs Boston

10/27
7/29
8/32 (won by 2)
8/30
8/39

Not sure there’s an easy answer but they had to do something.

[3ddman23]

And they said the bridges trade was bad

Bane 19/5/6 on 48/39%

Bridges 18/4/3 on 50/36 and we didn’t even run plays for him and had a godawful offense

4 unprotected 1sts and two solid role players? Okay then

LMAO at calling kcp & Cole "two solid role players". Any magic fan would say other wise.

[NyKnicks1714]

RealGM fans jerking off pick trades again name a better combo

Do you not think this is a significant overpay?

Overpay yes, significant? To be seen. We still have our entire core.

I think every board overrates picks. I was defending the Gobert/Mikal trades while 99% of people were reacting this same way.

I'll take a 26 year old 22/5/5 guy on 48/41/90 to a team desperate for shooting.

We still need point guard play, but I think we should or could use our MLE to get that in addition to already having Suggs/Bane/AB/Franz/Paolo all handle the ball.

You're not looking at future 1sts as what they are, which is basically currency. They might be overvalued but they're a major component of the packages that land stars. We have plenty of examples of both successes and failures with these all-in trades, but making one for a player like Bane could be a huge mistake on the basis that a much better player could become available.

Example: maybe mid-season Giannis does indeed ask for a trade, and a package around Wagner + 4 picks is able to land him, especially if Phoenix is having a really bad season. Maybe Booker becomes available next summer, and I don't think there will be a great market for him. Maybe the Sixers decide to go full rebuild and look to trade Maxey in a year. And if they decide to hold off and Memphis trades Bane elsewhere, the opportunity to trade for a player of his caliber is always going to be there with a package like that.

[_NoMas]

All eyes on Memphis now. Are they going to blow it all up, or maybe make a move for KD?

[Ito]

They coulda gotten a player just as good as Bane with just one of those picks prolly to tell you the truth.. thought maybe they wanted to get rid of contracts too but that’s krazy.. I didn’t even believe the trade that’s why I came here to see if it was true

[Rainwater]

Yeah I wouldn’t do that… it isn’t like he is a all nba or all star player.

He was an all star

Nope, never has been.

Yeah, I was wrong

[WestbrookGOATed]

Wowww. Memphis just finessed the hell out of the Magic. This makes the Luka trade look even more shady.

All of those players and picks combined don't equal AD alone. And then a young 2-way wing like Max Christie on top of that. Gimme a break.

AD is one of the most often injured players in all of pro sports.

[basketballRob]

Do you not think this is a significant overpay?

Overpay yes, significant? To be seen. We still have our entire core.

I think every board overrates picks. I was defending the Gobert/Mikal trades while 99% of people were reacting this same way.

I'll take a 26 year old 22/5/5 guy on 48/41/90 to a team desperate for shooting.

We still need point guard play, but I think we should or could use our MLE to get that in addition to already having Suggs/Bane/AB/Franz/Paolo all handle the ball.

You're not looking at future 1sts as what they are, which is basically currency. They might be overvalued but they're a major component of the packages that land stars. We have plenty of examples of both successes and failures with these all-in trades, but making one for a player like Bane could be a huge mistake on the basis that a much better player could become available.

Example: maybe mid-season Giannis does indeed ask for a trade, and a package around Wagner + 4 picks is able to land him, especially if Phoenix is having a really bad season. Maybe Booker becomes available next summer, and I don't think there will be a great market for him. Maybe the Sixers decide to go full rebuild and look to trade Maxey in a year. And if they decide to hold off and Memphis trades Bane elsewhere, the opportunity to trade for a player of his caliber is always going to be there with a package like that.

Booker is going to get a 2-year, $150m extension. Orlando wouldn't be able to afford him.

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[Up-And-Coming]

Wow what a move. Think the Magic overpaid by one extra 1st round pick but KCP probably had negative value on his current contract. With that said I like the concept behind the trade for both teams. Desmond is still underrated imo and I think Orlando now has a legitimate argument for being a home-court playoff team. Might as well be aggressive in a weakened Eastern Conference.

[JujitsuFlip]

If Bane forgets how to shoot in Orlando, I’ll be beside myself…

Y'all need a new head coach anyways lol

Ya don't trade 5 first rounders for Bane to be misused.

[thelead]

They coulda gotten a player just as good as Bane with just one of those picks prolly to tell you the truth.. thought maybe they wanted to get rid of contracts too but that’s krazy.. I didn’t even believe the trade that’s why I came here to see if it was true

Which respected 20/5/5 player on great shooting splits has been traded for with one pick recently?

[Godymas]

They coulda gotten a player just as good as Bane with just one of those picks prolly to tell you the truth.. thought maybe they wanted to get rid of contracts too but that’s krazy.. I didn’t even believe the trade that’s why I came here to see if it was true

60 players get drafted every year, what are the odds of
hitting on someone better than Desmond Bane.

[3ddman23]

It's funny how no one even cared about the magic having that phoenix swap pick in 26 before this trade. The majority of you didn't even know the magic had that pick. But now that it's included in this traded it's the biggest asset in the NBA apparently lol.

[JujitsuFlip]

Overpay yes, significant? To be seen. We still have our entire core.

I think every board overrates picks. I was defending the Gobert/Mikal trades while 99% of people were reacting this same way.

I'll take a 26 year old 22/5/5 guy on 48/41/90 to a team desperate for shooting.

We still need point guard play, but I think we should or could use our MLE to get that in addition to already having Suggs/Bane/AB/Franz/Paolo all handle the ball.

You guys are a 2nd apron team today.

Obviously declining the combined $13 million owed to Harris, Joseph, and Houstan helps get ya outta that but I doubt you all use the MLE or if you do, obviously will only be a tiny part of it.

We can also cut Mo Wagner and restructure his deal since he will be out most of the season.

Idk how much him and Franz would love that idea but if he's all about team, it's possible.

[3ddman23]

If Bane forgets how to shoot in Orlando, I’ll be beside myself…

Y'all need a new head coach anyways lol

Ya don't trade 5 first rounders for Bane to be misused.

It's 4... 4 first round picks and a swap. Why do people keep saying 5. They still have a first in 2029.

[Marvin Martian]

Why for MEM? They don't get better with this trade

[thelead]

It's funny how no one even cared about the magic having that phoenix swap pick in 26 before this trade. No one even cared. But not that it's included in this traded it's the biggest asset in the NBA apparently lol.

I agree… but I sure as hell valued it