ECF | P1: (1) Milwaukee Bucks vs (2) Toronto Raptors | MIL 1-0

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Series Prediction

Bucks in 4
22
4%
Bucks in 5
107
17%
Bucks in 6
160
26%
Bucks in 7
67
11%
Raptors in 4
31
5%
Raptors in 5
9
1%
Raptors in 6
121
20%
Raptors in 7
100
16%
 
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Re: ECF | P1: (1) Milwaukee Bucks vs (2) Toronto Raptors | MIL 1-0 

Post#2561 » by Grape » Thu May 16, 2019 3:55 am

the13thjoker wrote:Things I saw:
Bucks lost the first quarter by 9 and then won every single quarter after that.
The typical huge 3rd quarter Bucks run happened this game - it just didn't happen in the 3rd - they did it in the 4th.
This game was as close as it was because Kyle Lowry went off - the next highest scorer after him in 40 minutes of action was Siakam with 15 (and the other other player in double figures)
Kyle wont do that every game (i know Lopez wont either) but the Raptors don't have anyone consistent outside of Leonard who will always get his.
Meanwhile Bucks had 5 (almost 6) players in double figures and they still shot worse from 3 and hit less 3s.
Bucks hit the offensive glass and I'm more impressed with Lopez's 11 rebounds and a few clutch ones too than his 4 3s.
Brogdon is back and still efficient AF.


That's misleading as hell. The second and third were won by 1 point, which is basically a wash. You guys won the guy in the 4th because literally no one other than Lowry hit one single shot. The Raps went 0-15 other than Lowry.
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Post#2562 » by everdiso » Thu May 16, 2019 3:57 am

Whoo boy that was fun.

Pretty sure the raps put the fear in the bucks in this one, even tho Lowry was the only one that really showed.

Loved the defense in general. If Lopez wins the series for the bucks then so be it.
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Post#2563 » by Clyde Frazier » Thu May 16, 2019 3:58 am

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Post#2565 » by HurricaneKid » Thu May 16, 2019 4:02 am

TrustFundBaby wrote:Lol ofc Lopez gets a career high :rofl:

Wouldn't count on that again
Brook shot 4/11 (.364) from 3. He shot .365 on the season. 9 times this year he has made MORE than 4 3s in a game.

Lowry shot 7/9 from 3. He hasn't made 7 3s in a game all season (though Brook did 3x).

And a great many of those points and rebounds were directly due to Gasol (and Ibaka) shading for Giannis so aggressively.

To be fair he was pretty awful against Boston. Probably wasn't a bad notion to leave him to stop Giannis from getting to the hole. But make NO mistake about it, the two are directly linked. And a clear reason why Freak is so difficult to stop.

Giannis had the best DRTG in the NBA and an ORTG that would be the best team ORTG in the history of the game. He creates problems.

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Post#2566 » by Statlanta » Thu May 16, 2019 4:04 am

The series is going like I expected.

Raps starters doing work but Bucks outlasting them with superior depth.

Kawhi is not gonna last playing 42+ minutes. He gonna break down like KD in the 2014 WCF.
Aaron Gordon, Devin Booker, Tyrese Halliburton, Trae Young, Anthony Edwards and Luka Doncic all made the Conference Finals.

Where’s Joel Embiid?
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Post#2567 » by ReasonablySober » Thu May 16, 2019 4:05 am

The Raptors were out of their minds from outside and they kinda made a game out of it. This series isn't gonna go six.
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Post#2568 » by Raps in 4 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:06 am

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Ayt wrote:Yeah, that isn't a good sign. The Bucks shot 39.8% and still won the game.


And the Raptors shot 37%. It's not like the Raptors were lighting it up and somehow lost to a Bucks squad that was playing poorly. Both teams sucked and the game was decided in the final 2 minutes.


The Raptors shot well for much of the game... they just ran out of gas. I'm not sure they are going to be able to keep up with the pace the bucks are pushing. They need see if they can slow the game down


The Raptors shot well for 1 quarter.

From the start of the 2nd quarter to the end of the game:

Raptors shot 31%
Bucks shot 42%

The Bucks outplayed the Raptors for 3/4 quarters, and still only won it in the final 2 minutes.
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Post#2569 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:07 am

Giannis-Lopez interior defense in this game and the game back in January are the main problems for raptors.
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Post#2570 » by Steelo Green » Thu May 16, 2019 4:07 am

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LKN wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
And the Raptors shot 37%. It's not like the Raptors were lighting it up and somehow lost to a Bucks squad that was playing poorly. Both teams sucked and the game was decided in the final 2 minutes.


The Raptors shot well for much of the game... they just ran out of gas. I'm not sure they are going to be able to keep up with the pace the bucks are pushing. They need see if they can slow the game down


The Raptors shot well for 1 quarter.

From the 2nd to the 4th quarter:

Raptors shot 31%
Bucks shot 42%

Forget facts.

Let's just crown Milwaukee champs after game one. Pack up your bags guys.
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Post#2571 » by everdiso » Thu May 16, 2019 4:08 am

ReasonablySober wrote:The Raptors were out of their minds from outside and they kinda made a game out of it. This series isn't gonna go six.


35.8% from 3 is about average for the raps.
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Post#2572 » by Raps in 4 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:09 am

ReasonablySober wrote:The Raptors were out of their minds from outside and they kinda made a game out of it. This series isn't gonna go six.


The Raptors shot 35% from 3 (league average). Their shooting fell off a cliff after the first quarter, and yet they still kept the game close until the final minute.
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Post#2573 » by sule » Thu May 16, 2019 4:09 am

stillgotgame wrote:
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ken6199 wrote:Except the 2019 Lopez in Bud's system is completely different from the Brooklyn Lopez (funny how that sounds, btw). Exposing Gasol to Lopez outside of the paint to me is as big of a threat as not being able to stop Giannis.

Gasol even a few years from his DPOY year is still a better post defender than Ibaka, and you need him near the rim as much as possible.


Lopez scored 9 points and 6 points in two games against Gasol this season.

Against Toronto he has some of his worst shooting percentages this season, including some of his worst PPG, APG, RPG, OffRtg, and +/-, in 4 games and 119 minutes total (second most minutes next to games against Cleveland - 121 min).

So it should be interesting to see how the Raptors play Lopez, especially with Gasol in our system using our strategies against Lopez.

I'm not worried about Brook frickin' Lopez at the moment. Maybe that changes in the series, but going in, he doesn't seem like a threat to the Raptors.


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Post#2574 » by LikeABosh » Thu May 16, 2019 4:11 am

Grape wrote:
the13thjoker wrote:Things I saw:
Bucks lost the first quarter by 9 and then won every single quarter after that.
The typical huge 3rd quarter Bucks run happened this game - it just didn't happen in the 3rd - they did it in the 4th.
This game was as close as it was because Kyle Lowry went off - the next highest scorer after him in 40 minutes of action was Siakam with 15 (and the other other player in double figures)
Kyle wont do that every game (i know Lopez wont either) but the Raptors don't have anyone consistent outside of Leonard who will always get his.
Meanwhile Bucks had 5 (almost 6) players in double figures and they still shot worse from 3 and hit less 3s.
Bucks hit the offensive glass and I'm more impressed with Lopez's 11 rebounds and a few clutch ones too than his 4 3s.
Brogdon is back and still efficient AF.


That's misleading as hell. The second and third were won by 1 point, which is basically a wash. You guys won the guy in the 4th because literally no one other than Lowry hit one single shot. The Raps went 0-15 other than Lowry.


There's nothing misleading about that. It's exactly what happened
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Post#2575 » by ReasonablySober » Thu May 16, 2019 4:12 am

Okay, good luck guys.
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Post#2576 » by Grape » Thu May 16, 2019 4:15 am

LikeABosh wrote:
Grape wrote:
the13thjoker wrote:Things I saw:
Bucks lost the first quarter by 9 and then won every single quarter after that.
The typical huge 3rd quarter Bucks run happened this game - it just didn't happen in the 3rd - they did it in the 4th.
This game was as close as it was because Kyle Lowry went off - the next highest scorer after him in 40 minutes of action was Siakam with 15 (and the other other player in double figures)
Kyle wont do that every game (i know Lopez wont either) but the Raptors don't have anyone consistent outside of Leonard who will always get his.
Meanwhile Bucks had 5 (almost 6) players in double figures and they still shot worse from 3 and hit less 3s.
Bucks hit the offensive glass and I'm more impressed with Lopez's 11 rebounds and a few clutch ones too than his 4 3s.
Brogdon is back and still efficient AF.


That's misleading as hell. The second and third were won by 1 point, which is basically a wash. You guys won the guy in the 4th because literally no one other than Lowry hit one single shot. The Raps went 0-15 other than Lowry.


There's nothing misleading about that. It's exactly what happened


Do you know what misleading means? Info can be accurate but misleading.

The game was won in the 4th.
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Post#2577 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:15 am

Siakam is 19/60 shooting his last 4/5 games, thanks to Siakam the raptors can't even win when Lowry has career games.
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Post#2578 » by SFour » Thu May 16, 2019 4:16 am

ReasonablySober wrote:The Raptors were out of their minds from outside and they kinda made a game out of it. This series isn't gonna go six.


Only Lowry was out of his mind...he shot 7-9 from 3pt. The rest of the Raptors shot 8 for 33 from 3pt...that's 24%...let's not say that the team as a whole were shooting lights out, when that clearly wasn't the case...aside from Lowry the 3 point shooting was just as bad as the Bucks.
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Post#2579 » by Sulico » Thu May 16, 2019 4:20 am

Lowry was this hot and shot just 15 shots?
If that was Klay, whole GSW team would be feeding him until he threw up 50 points.
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Post#2580 » by ken6199 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:21 am

sule wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
sule wrote:
Lopez scored 9 points and 6 points in two games against Gasol this season.

Against Toronto he has some of his worst shooting percentages this season, including some of his worst PPG, APG, RPG, OffRtg, and +/-, in 4 games and 119 minutes total (second most minutes next to games against Cleveland - 121 min).

So it should be interesting to see how the Raptors play Lopez, especially with Gasol in our system using our strategies against Lopez.

I'm not worried about Brook frickin' Lopez at the moment. Maybe that changes in the series, but going in, he doesn't seem like a threat to the Raptors.


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