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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#261 » by Prop » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:32 pm

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Prop wrote:lol@the readers of a racist article being at fault for pointing out that the article is racist.


Many German readers in this thread read it and none of them said the article is racist, so maybe stop implying the article is racist since it 's written in language you don't udnerstand?

Tommy Sneakers wrote:I don't like that he implied that Americans wanted Dirk to win because he's white.


people were rooting for any of 29 teams not named Miami Heat, it didn't matter of it was Dallas, Golden State, Sacto or OKC, I would root for Shanqghai Sharks if they ever played the Heat..


maybe you should stop being such an apologist for anything that can be considered racist. then again, this is realgm, where a big chunk of posters try to pretend that nothing ever has anything to do with race.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#262 » by twinthunder3 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:50 pm

The German sees the Mavs vs. Heat as Black vs. White

Mavs: Dirk, Kidd, JJ, a bunch of other white dudes (exception: JET and others)

Heat: LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Haslem.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#263 » by doctorfunk » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:52 pm

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doctorfunk wrote:
Prop wrote:lol@the readers of a racist article being at fault for pointing out that the article is racist.


Many German readers in this thread read it and none of them said the article is racist, so maybe stop implying the article is racist since it 's written in language you don't udnerstand?

Tommy Sneakers wrote:I don't like that he implied that Americans wanted Dirk to win because he's white.


people were rooting for any of 29 teams not named Miami Heat, it didn't matter of it was Dallas, Golden State, Sacto or OKC, I would root for Shanqghai Sharks if they ever played the Heat..


maybe you should stop being such an apologist for anything that can be considered racist. then again, this is realgm, where a big chunk of posters try to pretend that nothing ever has anything to do with race.


or maybe you should shut your trap use google translation and read the article instead of calling me apologist
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#264 » by WhateverBro » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:58 pm

doctorfunk wrote:Multiculturalism without assimilation sucks, who would want that? I mean i wouldn't like huge population of Germans to move into my town and don't even bother to learn my language while establishing their own school and churches. Not longing for leaving in multicultural society =/= racism.


Actually, assimilation is not what you should strive for regarding multicultiralism. Assimilation basically means that you should reject your cultural background and take on this other culture. This is where most countries go wrong and try to make them to "us" and view them for what they aren't (us) instead of who they are. But you obviously don't know what you're talking about so....
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#265 » by doctorfunk » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:04 pm

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doctorfunk wrote:Multiculturalism without assimilation sucks, who would want that? I mean i wouldn't like huge population of Germans to move into my town and don't even bother to learn my language while establishing their own school and churches. Not longing for leaving in multicultural society =/= racism.


Actually, assimilation is not what you should strive for regarding multicultiralism. Assimilation basically means that you should reject your cultural background and take on this other culture. This is where most countries go wrong and try to make them to "us" and view them for what they aren't (us) instead of who they are. But you obviously don't know what you're talking about so....


Assimilation happens in countries when minorities are small, it's not something you strive for it just happens. Looking at France I'd rather live in my culturally monolith country, saves the trouble. I'm a tolerant person to other views/lifestyles/races, but many people are intolerant and assuming common folk in my country are better than common folks in France is quite naive.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#266 » by WhateverBro » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:08 pm

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Assimilation happens in countries when minorities are small, it's not something you strive for it just happens. Looking at France I'd rather live in my culturally monolith country, saves the trouble. I'm not intolerant person by any means, but many people are intolerant and assuming common folk in my country are better than common folks in France is quite naive.


Lol, no. Assimilation has been the way to handle multicultiralism in many different countries (still is in some) until they started to realize that this is the wrong way to go about it. You don't try to make other people like you to get a functioning multicultural society, you accept them for what they are and advocate a mixture, not assimilation.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#267 » by magicman1978 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:15 pm

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doctorfunk wrote:
Assimilation happens in countries when minorities are small, it's not something you strive for it just happens. Looking at France I'd rather live in my culturally monolith country, saves the trouble. I'm not intolerant person by any means, but many people are intolerant and assuming common folk in my country are better than common folks in France is quite naive.


Lol, no. Assimilation has been the way to handle multicultiralism in many different countries (still is in some) until they started to realize that this is the wrong way to go about it. You don't try to make other people like you to get a functioning multicultural society, you accept them for what they are and advocate a mixture, not assimilation.


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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#268 » by doctorfunk » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:15 pm

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doctorfunk wrote:
Assimilation happens in countries when minorities are small, it's not something you strive for it just happens. Looking at France I'd rather live in my culturally monolith country, saves the trouble. I'm not intolerant person by any means, but many people are intolerant and assuming common folk in my country are better than common folks in France is quite naive.


Lol, no. Assimilation has been the way to handle multicultiralism in many different countries (still is in some) until they started to realize that this is the wrong way to go about it. You don't try to make other people like you to get a functioning multicultural society, you accept them for what they are and advocate a mixture, not assimilation.


Yes you are right about it. What I meant by assimilation is like when one guy from Peru comes to Slovakia he makes friends with Slovakians and there are not many of his countrymen there. When people migrate in large numbers they tend to stick together more. I don't know why but for some reason it always spawns loads of problems, especially if these people are very different ethnically.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#269 » by Prop » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:23 pm

doctorfunk wrote:or maybe you should shut your trap use google translation and read the article instead of calling me apologist


maybe you should stop getting so emotional.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#270 » by doctorfunk » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:25 pm

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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#271 » by WhateverBro » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:29 pm

doctorfunk wrote:
WhateverBro wrote:
doctorfunk wrote:
Assimilation happens in countries when minorities are small, it's not something you strive for it just happens. Looking at France I'd rather live in my culturally monolith country, saves the trouble. I'm not intolerant person by any means, but many people are intolerant and assuming common folk in my country are better than common folks in France is quite naive.


Lol, no. Assimilation has been the way to handle multicultiralism in many different countries (still is in some) until they started to realize that this is the wrong way to go about it. You don't try to make other people like you to get a functioning multicultural society, you accept them for what they are and advocate a mixture, not assimilation.


Yes you are right about it. What I meant by assimilation is like when one guy from Peru comes to Slovakia he makes friends with Slovakians and there are not many of his countrymen there. When people migrate in large numbers they tend to stick together more. I don't know why but for some reason it always spawns loads of problems, especially if these people are very different ethnically.


Yeah, I understand what you mean. Your first example is how it should be, a mixture. The thing is that it's not their fault, it's the peoples fault for trying to assimilate immigrants instead of embracing them for what they are and include them. This then leads to segregation and therefore, the immigrants are not to be blamed for these problems, it's the people living in the country and the system that's at fault most of the time.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#272 » by Soupman » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:02 pm

I see alot of heat fans being butthurt and cherrypicking a random article trying to paint germans as racists.

You lost Mavs won get over it.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#273 » by daam » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:06 pm

I think it's more a culture thing then anything else. Think Hasselhoff versuz Eminem. The writer would suggest that people wouldn't let Eminem in their homes as well. It's not like Germany only has white skinned athletes.

Choice of words hasn't been thought of very long though...or the writer just hates America. :wink:
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#274 » by colors » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:07 pm

It's just difficult to talk about a society that isn't yours, you easily end up saying very stupid and ill-informed stuff, like this article shows.

For example, this thread has people talking about the recent riots in France as "ethnic" riots, and related to immigration. These riots were NOT ethnic, they were coming from populations of specific neighborhoods of suburban cities, and no neighborhood in France is filled with only one ethnicity (in more simple terms, there were many white people in those riots). It can also not be said that they were related to immigration, since 100% of the rioters were french, born and raised. Immigrants in France never riot, they're very very quiet and often scared. The riots were related to social issues, exclusion and so on.

I think this german author should have learned to shut up instead of talking about stuff he knows nothing about. He probably wouldn't appreciate it if an american author would claim to be able to describe German society to him.
That being said, I agree with the premise that clearly triggered the article : this final can be viewed as a victory of team basketball over individualities.
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Post#275 » by Soupman » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:38 pm

this is from a random no name newspaper.

The biggest news papers say nothing bad about the heat.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#276 » by Foye » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:54 pm

sisibilio wrote:
Tave wrote:Europeans can be incredibly racist. Look no further than the practice of throwing bananas at black soccer players.

I used to be a soccer fan back in the day and in the thousands games i watched guess what, i never saw any banana thrown to a black player.
I saw one head of a roasted pig thrown to a white portuguese player though. Oranges, ham sandwitches, bottles of water or sunflower seeds yea, but never a banana, that must be a conspiracy.


Racism is a huge problem in Italy, though.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#277 » by 510TWSS » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:16 pm

LOL, what a slightly racist title.
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#278 » by Fran Vasquez » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:29 pm

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sisibilio wrote:I used to be a soccer fan back in the day and in the thousands games i watched guess what, i never saw any banana thrown to a black player.
I saw one head of a roasted pig thrown to a white portuguese player though. Oranges, ham sandwitches, bottles of water or sunflower seeds yea, but never a banana, that must be a conspiracy.

Oliver Kahn was thrown bananas at. A player as German as one can get. :D


he certainly did not need the banana to trip over himself and let the other team score, heheh
how come "everything kahn" is always an epic fail? weird
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Post#279 » by The Laker Kid » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm

I LOLed. Funny title...
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Re: German Newspaper: Dirk defeats ghetto basketball 

Post#280 » by Sebastian » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:00 pm

To be fair to the article, schlabberige pants have been a serious problem in team sports for a while now.

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