Bledsoe and Suns reach 5 year, $70 million deal

[kingstyyyle]

It helps if you read all my arguments because I had already answered this. It's called a wake up call to other teams being interested and I've provided proof that if a deal didn't get done, Bledsoe would have signed the qualifying offer and become a UFA next season where the Suns would have had no leverage. Remember, it was the Suns who caved to Bledsoe, not the other way around. The Wolves just woke the Suns up.

I've read all of your ridiculous comments in this thread

Oh, what an insightful post... NOT!

If my posts are ridiculously, then show me and use proof. Then prove on top of it that David Aldridge and Adrian Wojnarowski is ridiculous as well since I've quoted them, especially Wojnarowski many times. The fact is nobody has used real proof against me, yet I have used proof. Proof always win.

The truth is always going to be the truth whether or not you choose to accept it.

I think there is something wrong with your eye dude

[Shem]

Also, your ignorance regarding the Bledsoe/Lillard comparison is laughable. You state that Bledsoe, while more experienced than Lillard has less accolades. You fail to realize that Bledsoe, unlike Lillard, did not spend all 4 years in college and they're only 7 months apart in age. Bledsoe also hasn't been as lucky as Lillard injury wise and so as far as I'm concerned, they're pretty much on the same level experience wise.

Age and experience are two different things. The point is, unless Bledsoe starts getting the same accolades as Lillard, then we'll talk. But if you disagree, then create a player comparison thread. Let's see how well you do there. Good luck because outside of most Suns fans, hardly anyone is going to agree with you. You're just being a homer.

And let's be honest, Lillard wasn't the best guard remaining for that last spot all-star spot, Dragic was.

Another homer response. What a surprise.... NOT! Keep in mind Lillard plays in one of the smallest markets in the NBA. Phoenix is one of the larger ones. The point is, the market size makes it harder for players like Lillard who are in their 2nd year while going against the toughest position to get in the all star game (the point guard is the toughest) is saying something. But keep being a homer. LOL

Bledsoe is more efficient offensively than Lillard and a far better defender overall. Had Bledsoe been picked 6th overall and immediately started his rookie year you can guarantee he would be receiving the same amount of attention as Lillard currently is. Lillard is not elite, and all that there truly is that separates him from Bledsoe is marketability and game winning shots, and even his "clutchness" is overstated (as has been proven with statistics earlier in this thread).

Again, take your homer remarks to the player comparison thread. I don't think you have the guts to do so.

[Shem]

I've read all of your ridiculous comments in this thread

Oh, what an insightful post... NOT!

If my posts are ridiculously, then show me and use proof. Then prove on top of it that David Aldridge and Adrian Wojnarowski is ridiculous as well since I've quoted them, especially Wojnarowski many times. The fact is nobody has used real proof against me, yet I have used proof. Proof always win.

The truth is always going to be the truth whether or not you choose to accept it.

I think there is something wrong with your eye dude

Are you even capable of anything insightful? I seriously doubt it. Keep proving me right. I'm even telling you that you will prove me right and you still will do it anyway. LOL

[King4Day]

I'm just joining the party for this. Serious question for those involved as I don't want to read everything. What's the debate about?
Is it the fact the Suns decided to give a bigger than expected contract?

Had he signed the QO, he was likely as good as gone. The only advantage for phoenix was the ability to offer 5 years.

With so many teams and so few free agents, sometime's you have to overspend.
Sarver said months ago he was willing to negotiate.
From what I've read, the suns pushed for the 5th year.

Silly to argue this

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[SunsFanSSOL]

Also, your ignorance regarding the Bledsoe/Lillard comparison is laughable. You state that Bledsoe, while more experienced than Lillard has less accolades. You fail to realize that Bledsoe, unlike Lillard, did not spend all 4 years in college and they're only 7 months apart in age. Bledsoe also hasn't been as lucky as Lillard injury wise and so as far as I'm concerned, they're pretty much on the same level experience wise.

Age and experience are two different things. The point is, unless Bledsoe starts getting the same accolades as Lillard, then we'll talk. But if you disagree, then create a player comparison thread. Let's see how well you do there. Good luck because outside of most Suns fans, hardly anyone is going to agree with you. You're just being a homer.

And let's be honest, Lillard wasn't the best guard remaining for that last spot all-star spot, Dragic was.

Another homer response. What a surprise.... NOT! Keep in mind Lillard plays in one of the smallest markets in the NBA. Phoenix is one of the larger ones. The point is, the market size makes it harder for players like Lillard who are in their 2nd year while going against the toughest position to get in the all star game (the point guard is the toughest) is saying something. But keep being a homer. LOL

Bledsoe is more efficient offensively than Lillard and a far better defender overall. Had Bledsoe been picked 6th overall and immediately started his rookie year you can guarantee he would be receiving the same amount of attention as Lillard currently is. Lillard is not elite, and all that there truly is that separates him from Bledsoe is marketability and game winning shots, and even his "clutchness" is overstated (as has been proven with statistics earlier in this thread).

Again, take your homer remarks to the player comparison thread. I don't think you have the guts to do so.

Lol, if you disagree with me tell me how I'm wrong. Back it up that Lillard played better than Dragic, or that he is far superior to Bledsoe instead of calling me a "homer" and saying that most other people would agree with you. You're the one clamoring for proof about the Bledsoe negotiations in this thread, why don't you go ahead and provide some yourself?

Dragic averaged more Win Shares/48, shot a much higher FG %, EFG %, 3pt %, TS %, had a higher PER, averaged more steals, averaged the same amount of points and assists as Lillard, and led a team that was supposed to suck to a 48-34 record, yet Lillard made it in and not him. Lillard is overrated due to his popularity, he doesn't even reach the elite class of point guards (Paul, Westbrook, Parker etc.) who all, like Dragic, are all significantly more efficient than Lillard and contribute more to their teams win total. Lillard's attitude and swagger of cockiness lends to his popularity and large fan base. Dragic doesn't receive nearly the same notoriety as Lillard. Just to compare Lillard has 541k twitter followers, Dragic has 74.5k. When the coaches are picking the all-star teams they choose who the fans want to see, and I'm sure more fans wanted to see Lillard than Dragic.

As for the Bledsoe vs. Lillard comparison, they're a lot closer than you would like to think. Bledsoe, like Dragic, outmatches Lillard in all the major efficiency statistical category (FG %, EFG %, TS %, PER). And their WS/48 are pretty close (.140 for Bledsoe, .157 for Lillard). The major difference is health and popularity. In 4 seasons Bledsoe has only played 240 games which would equate to 3 full seasons, while Lillard has been lucky enough to be fully injury free both of his seasons, and played in 164 games.

What accolades does Lillard have that you are continuously hold in such high regard? The All-Star game is a popularity contest (Lillard getting in over Dragic, Joe Johnson getting in over Lowry and Jefferson), and one that Bledsoe was not even eligible for due to injury. The All-NBA 3rd team, while admittedly impressive (and something that Dragic earned too), is something Bledsoe too was ineligible for due to his injury. Give the guy a full season and let's see how he performs. Lillard has had the luxury of having a starting spot handed to him, and been injury free, while Bledsoe had to stick it out on the bench for 3 years and has been struck with injury problems. It is completely unfair to compare them based on individual accomplishments given the trajectory of their careers.

I also love how you completely ignored my first paragraph about the Bledsoe negotiations. Have you learned that just because you repeat things over and over isn't going to make them right?

[lilfishi22]

You want to keep going in circles... fine. Let's use logic. Now why didn't the Suns give Bledsoe his money earlier? He obviously didn't like their original offer. There was a stalemate all summer. And how is the negotiating table open when the Suns weren't willing to even consider giving Bledsoe what he wanted? Well, until recently? Exactly.

The negotiating table is open for Bledsoe to sit down with the Suns to discuss. Nobody, unless your Lebron or KD gets their contract demands without negotiation. Bledsoe is no different. Sarver had pubicly stated he'd match a max offer if Bledsoe received one and he never did. We've had the money and the willingness to pay him as long as he came to the table to talk about it, which he never did but we never shut him out either. Exactly.

From Adrian Wojnarowski, the most credible NBA Insider out there:

Paul had been threatening to have his client sign a $3.7 million qualifying offer that would allow Bledsoe to become an unrestricted free agent after the season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--e ... 34004.html

There's your proof! I've already posted this a few times over the weekend. But some of you Suns fans won't accept it. So I would suggest that you have to prove that Wojnarowski is NOT a credible insider. If not, it's like I said before, I win this argument based on the source I used.

EVERY RFA has the threat of the QO. Threatening to use it is standard negotiation rhetoric. It was the only bit of leverage Paul could salvage from the situation. The deeper into FA it got, the more they had to threaten with the QO as they were losing leverage by the day. I'm not doubting the credibility of Woj in this instance, I'm saying it's not news.

It's like I keep saying. It was when the Wolves made it known that they would offer a max contract to him if possible. Notice the deal got done soon after that happened. That's not a coincidence.

No, it was when the Suns got the call from the Wolves offering trash for a S&T that Bledsoe' camp realised no credible trade is going to get done and that he's going to HAVE to play for the QO if he didn't negotiate with the Suns for a long term deal.

[MilotheSlayer]

LOL so a team that had no money said they would pay him money and it changed our mind?

It helps if you read all my arguments because I had already answered this. It's called a wake up call to other teams being interested and I've provided proof that if a deal didn't get done, Bledsoe would have signed the qualifying offer and become a UFA next season where the Suns would have had no leverage. Remember, it was the Suns who caved to Bledsoe, not the other way around. The Wolves just woke the Suns up.

Where is your proof that it was the suns caved? Yes it was known by everyone that Bledsoe was threatening to take the QO if he didn't get the 5/80 max deal. Yet he didn't get a max, and he didn't take the QO. Explain to me how it wasn't Bledsoe caving at the last minute.

Their is also just as much of a chance that the Minnesota offer is what scared Bledsoe cave and negotiate a deal. When the suns refused to take back crap contracts and stated they only wanted good prospects. Bledsoe realized that he wasnt gonna get a S&T and figured he better work out a deal.
This is a quote from the same Woj article that you've been using;
Bledsoe had failed to find a maximum contract offer on the restricted free-agency market, and his reps spent most of the summer unwilling to negotiate off the $12 million annual salary the Suns had offered in July.

Sure sounds like Bledsoe and his camp caved and were willing to negotiate.

[Shem]

LOL so a team that had no money said they would pay him money and it changed our mind?

It helps if you read all my arguments because I had already answered this. It's called a wake up call to other teams being interested and I've provided proof that if a deal didn't get done, Bledsoe would have signed the qualifying offer and become a UFA next season where the Suns would have had no leverage. Remember, it was the Suns who caved to Bledsoe, not the other way around. The Wolves just woke the Suns up.

Where is your proof that it was the suns caved?

Here:

Bledsoe had rejected the club's four-year, $48 million offer it made earlier this summer, looking for a max deal. Phoenix rejected that notion out of hand, starting a staredown that lasted most of the summer and threatened to carry over into the start of training camp this weekend. But the club moved off its $12 million per year stance and now will pay Bledsoe $14 million annually through 2019

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/d ... s-bledsoe/

Please note I've already posted this before. But it seems you Suns fans are only reading my direct replies to you and just ignoring everything else I say. It's funny how all of you are doing this as far I can see.

Yeah, the Suns caved. Please go in denial and try to take the argument to another place and then come back to it while going in circles like your other fellow Suns fans. I'm very curious to see how far you're all going to take this.

[Shem]

Also, your ignorance regarding the Bledsoe/Lillard comparison is laughable. You state that Bledsoe, while more experienced than Lillard has less accolades. You fail to realize that Bledsoe, unlike Lillard, did not spend all 4 years in college and they're only 7 months apart in age. Bledsoe also hasn't been as lucky as Lillard injury wise and so as far as I'm concerned, they're pretty much on the same level experience wise.

Age and experience are two different things. The point is, unless Bledsoe starts getting the same accolades as Lillard, then we'll talk. But if you disagree, then create a player comparison thread. Let's see how well you do there. Good luck because outside of most Suns fans, hardly anyone is going to agree with you. You're just being a homer.

And let's be honest, Lillard wasn't the best guard remaining for that last spot all-star spot, Dragic was.

Another homer response. What a surprise.... NOT! Keep in mind Lillard plays in one of the smallest markets in the NBA. Phoenix is one of the larger ones. The point is, the market size makes it harder for players like Lillard who are in their 2nd year while going against the toughest position to get in the all star game (the point guard is the toughest) is saying something. But keep being a homer. LOL

Bledsoe is more efficient offensively than Lillard and a far better defender overall. Had Bledsoe been picked 6th overall and immediately started his rookie year you can guarantee he would be receiving the same amount of attention as Lillard currently is. Lillard is not elite, and all that there truly is that separates him from Bledsoe is marketability and game winning shots, and even his "clutchness" is overstated (as has been proven with statistics earlier in this thread).

Again, take your homer remarks to the player comparison thread. I don't think you have the guts to do so.

Lol, if you disagree with me tell me how I'm wrong. Back it up that Lillard played better than Dragic, or that he is far superior to Bledsoe instead of calling me a "homer" and saying that most other people would agree with you. You're the one clamoring for proof about the Bledsoe negotiations in this thread, why don't you go ahead and provide some yourself?

Dragic averaged more Win Shares/48, shot a much higher FG %, EFG %, 3pt %, TS %, had a higher PER, averaged more steals, averaged the same amount of points and assists as Lillard, and led a team that was supposed to suck to a 48-34 record, yet Lillard made it in and not him. Lillard is overrated due to his popularity, he doesn't even reach the elite class of point guards (Paul, Westbrook, Parker etc.) who all, like Dragic, are all significantly more efficient than Lillard and contribute more to their teams win total. Lillard's attitude and swagger of cockiness lends to his popularity and large fan base. Dragic doesn't receive nearly the same notoriety as Lillard. Just to compare Lillard has 541k twitter followers, Dragic has 74.5k. When the coaches are picking the all-star teams they choose who the fans want to see, and I'm sure more fans wanted to see Lillard than Dragic.

As for the Bledsoe vs. Lillard comparison, they're a lot closer than you would like to think. Bledsoe, like Dragic, outmatches Lillard in all the major efficiency statistical category (FG %, EFG %, TS %, PER). And their WS/48 are pretty close (.140 for Bledsoe, .157 for Lillard). The major difference is health and popularity. In 4 seasons Bledsoe has only played 240 games which would equate to 3 full seasons, while Lillard has been lucky enough to be fully injury free both of his seasons, and played in 164 games.

What accolades does Lillard have that you are continuously hold in such high regard? The All-Star game is a popularity contest (Lillard getting in over Dragic, Joe Johnson getting in over Lowry and Jefferson), and one that Bledsoe was not even eligible for due to injury. The All-NBA 3rd team, while admittedly impressive (and something that Dragic earned too), is something Bledsoe too was ineligible for due to his injury. Give the guy a full season and let's see how he performs. Lillard has had the luxury of having a starting spot handed to him, and been injury free, while Bledsoe had to stick it out on the bench for 3 years and has been struck with injury problems. It is completely unfair to compare them based on individual accomplishments given the trajectory of their careers.

I also love how you completely ignored my first paragraph about the Bledsoe negotiations. Have you learned that just because you repeat things over and over isn't going to make them right?

Again, I'll only continue this if you take it to the player comparison forum. But hey if you're chicken, just don't reply and don't do it. I'll be expecting that.

[Shem]

I'm not doubting the credibility of Woj in this instance, I'm saying it's not news.

Yes you are, but in an indirect way. You say Bledsoe had no intention of taking the qualifying offer, I show you proof and then you dance around it so you don't get tared and feathered by RealGM. The truth if you're in denial.

No, it was when the Suns got the call from the Wolves offering trash for a S&T that Bledsoe' camp realised no credible trade is going to get done and that he's going to HAVE to play for the QO if he didn't negotiate with the Suns for a long term deal.

Proof this isn't true:

Bledsoe had rejected the club's four-year, $48 million offer it made earlier this summer, looking for a max deal. Phoenix rejected that notion out of hand, starting a staredown that lasted most of the summer and threatened to carry over into the start of training camp this weekend. But the club moved off its $12 million per year stance and now will pay Bledsoe $14 million annually through 2019

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/d ... s-bledsoe/


But please continue to deny it. This is funny!



NOTE TO ALL YOU SUNS FANS!!! You want to keep going in circles with me, be my guest. I have the articles I've have quoted several times bookmarked now since you're not getting the message when you all keep coming back to those same points. I really am curious to how far you're all going to take this and I'm looking forward to all of your replies because there will be... I GUARANTEE IT!!! I also guarantee that you all will go right back to those same points I keep debunking with Adrian Wojnarowski and David Aldridge more than once again!!!!

[DirtyDez]

So now Suns fans hate Lillard because some Blazer fan is trying to convince us we caved because of Minnesota's failed S&T attempt? My God this thread is a cesspool.

[aIvin adams]

NOTE TO ALL YOU SUNS FANS!!! You want to keep going in circles with me, be my guest. I have the articles I've have quoted several times bookmarked now since you're not getting the message when you all keep coming back to those same points. I really am curious to how far you're all going to take this and I'm looking forward to all of your replies because there will be... I GUARANTEE IT!!! I also guarantee that you all will go right back to those same points I keep debunking with Adrian Wojnarowski and David Aldridge more than once again!!!!

Well, allow me to retort! Your face will melt off and some children will weep over an exploded body. Dying is for fools. Amateurs. They can’t hang with me. Their bones would melt like wax. I may forget about them tomorrow, but they’ll live with that memory for the rest of their lives. And that’s a gift.

I don’t know, winning, anyone? Rhymes with winning? Anyone? Yeah, that would be us.

I wanted to watch Jaws on the ocean in the dark and be afraid. I’m an F-18 bro! I’m just going to sail across the winds of the universe with my goddesses.

Bring me a challenge. Somebody.

[SunsFanSSOL]

It helps if you read all my arguments because I had already answered this. It's called a wake up call to other teams being interested and I've provided proof that if a deal didn't get done, Bledsoe would have signed the qualifying offer and become a UFA next season where the Suns would have had no leverage. Remember, it was the Suns who caved to Bledsoe, not the other way around. The Wolves just woke the Suns up.

Where is your proof that it was the suns caved?

Here:

Bledsoe had rejected the club's four-year, $48 million offer it made earlier this summer, looking for a max deal. Phoenix rejected that notion out of hand, starting a staredown that lasted most of the summer and threatened to carry over into the start of training camp this weekend. But the club moved off its $12 million per year stance and now will pay Bledsoe $14 million annually through 2019

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/d ... s-bledsoe/

Please note I've already posted this before. But it seems you Suns fans are only reading my direct replies to you and just ignoring everything else I say. It's funny how all of you are doing this as far I can see.

Yeah, the Suns caved. Please go in denial and try to take the argument to another place and then come back to it while going in circles like your other fellow Suns fans. I'm very curious to see how far you're all going to take this.

How is $14m/yr caving when the offer was $12m and the demand was $16m? They would have caved if Bledsoe was getting 5/80, no one caved - both sides compromised. You keep talking in circles about providing "sources", nowhere does it state Bledsoe was going to take the QO, what you quoted Wojnarowski as saying was:

Paul had been threatening to have his client sign a $3.7 million qualifying offer that would allow Bledsoe to become an unrestricted free agent after the season.

That's all it was, a threat, a negotiation tactic, and an empty one at that as evidenced by Bledsoe coming back to the negotiating table one week before the QO expired. Nowhere does Woj say that Bledsoe was actually seriously considering the QO, just that he was threatening to take it as a means of hoping the Suns, or some other team, would give him the max.

[SunsFanSSOL]

So now Suns fans hate Lillard because some Blazer fan is trying to convince us we caved because of Minnesota's failed S&T attempt? My God this thread is a cesspool.

No one hates Lillard. I wouldn't have even indulged in the conversation he started belittling Bledsoe while praising Lillard if he didn't come across the way he has in all of his posts.

[lilfishi22]

I'm not doubting the credibility of Woj in this instance, I'm saying it's not news.

Yes you are, but in an indirect way. You say Bledsoe had no intention of taking the qualifying offer, I show you proof and then you dance around it so you don't get tared and feathered by RealGM. The truth if you're in denial.

I'm not in denial, because this isn't the first time an RFA has "threatened" to sign the QO. The threat of the QO is not news because if it was a threat, then they would have signed it already. I'm not doubting their credibility because what they are reporting isn't news, it's general knowledge when one side has no leverage except for the QO, they will use it.

What we know from actual Suns insiders is Bledsoe's camp threatened to sign the QO (as expected) and we called his bluff. We told him, we're willing to go up from our initial base-line offer (48/4) if he come and negotiate. That's what we know from our vetted insiders. It took the guy almost 3 months to finally come to the table to negotiate. We didn't fly to Cleveland or his home town to negotiate, he came to us.

No, it was when the Suns got the call from the Wolves offering trash for a S&T that Bledsoe' camp realised no credible trade is going to get done and that he's going to HAVE to play for the QO if he didn't negotiate with the Suns for a long term deal.

Proof this isn't true:

Bledsoe had rejected the club's four-year, $48 million offer it made earlier this summer, looking for a max deal. Phoenix rejected that notion out of hand, starting a staredown that lasted most of the summer and threatened to carry over into the start of training camp this weekend. But the club moved off its $12 million per year stance and now will pay Bledsoe $14 million annually through 2019

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/d ... s-bledsoe/


But please continue to deny it. This is funny!

And I countered all your reports with DIRECT QUOTES from the team owner. Sarver has been quoted saying the 48/4 offer was fair but are happy to negotiate. He's said this before the season ended and said it again a month in. Three months into FA, Bledsoe found there was no more offers around except for the Suns one and finally caved in on his own max offer, which he wasn't going to get from anyone.

NOTE TO ALL YOU SUNS FANS!!! You want to keep going in circles with me, be my guest. I have the articles I've have quoted several times bookmarked now since you're not getting the message when you all keep coming back to those same points. I really am curious to how far you're all going to take this and I'm looking forward to all of your replies because there will be... I GUARANTEE IT!!! I also guarantee that you all will go right back to those same points I keep debunking with Adrian Wojnarowski and David Aldridge more than once again!!!!

And to the one Blazer fan who's credibility has been questioned within your ranks, you're the one going in circles with two articles you just googled. You have brought nothing new to the table other than your reading of two articles you found on the net which contained nothing that your average writer didn't know.

This is from a well-known Suns beat writer who has close ties to the organisation.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2014/09/24/phoenix-suns-eric-bledsoe-agree-to-contract/16174127/

Bledsoe had not been in Phoenix or talked with the Suns' front office since April until he and his agent, Rich Paul, came to Phoenix on Wednesday to finalize the contract. The rest of the Suns have been going through voluntary workouts this month at US Airways Center.

[lilfishi22]

No one hates Lillard. I wouldn't have even indulged in the conversation he started belittling Bledsoe while praising Lillard if he didn't come across the way he has in all of his posts.

The guy called you a chicken, if you feel insulted you should immediately report him. Because if he's called you a chicken once, he's probably done it before.

[Takingbaconback]

rofl are we really arguing if any of the suns' guards are as good as Lillard? They are not.

[SunsFanSSOL]

rofl are we really arguing if any of the suns' guards are as good as Lillard? They are not.

Dragic currently is better than him although Lillard will probably surpass him this year, Bledsoe's not but it's close.

[lilfishi22]

rofl are we really arguing if any of the suns' guards are as good as Lillard? They are not.

Dragic currently is better than him although Lillard will probably surpass him this year, Bledsoe's not but it's close.

Points/assists/rebounding/mpg are all pretty close but Dragic was on a whole different level in terms of efficiency. Dragic was a ridiculous 5th in the league in TS% and 4th in efg%, right up there with Lebron, KD, Harden, Curry and Dwight.

Bledsoe was also the best Sun in the clutch. His scoring (42ppg vs 38ppg, per48) and shooting percetanges (.464fg% vs .473fg%, per48) in the clutch are broadly in line with Lilliard. Lilliard is much better from the 3 though.

I think Lilliard is about as good as Dragic and Bledsoe.

[MilotheSlayer]

It helps if you read all my arguments because I had already answered this. It's called a wake up call to other teams being interested and I've provided proof that if a deal didn't get done, Bledsoe would have signed the qualifying offer and become a UFA next season where the Suns would have had no leverage. Remember, it was the Suns who caved to Bledsoe, not the other way around. The Wolves just woke the Suns up.

Where is your proof that it was the suns caved?

Here:

Bledsoe had rejected the club's four-year, $48 million offer it made earlier this summer, looking for a max deal. Phoenix rejected that notion out of hand, starting a staredown that lasted most of the summer and threatened to carry over into the start of training camp this weekend. But the club moved off its $12 million per year stance and now will pay Bledsoe $14 million annually through 2019

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/d ... s-bledsoe/

Please note I've already posted this before. But it seems you Suns fans are only reading my direct replies to you and just ignoring everything else I say. It's funny how all of you are doing this as far I can see.

Yeah, the Suns caved. Please go in denial and try to take the argument to another place and then come back to it while going in circles like your other fellow Suns fans. I'm very curious to see how far you're all going to take this.

Yes I have read the articles and responses you and the other posters have made. I normally like to do research and have what I say make sense before posting. I just don't think we'll see eye to eye on the whole 'caving' part. (which is fine) I would agree with you if the Suns had said that they were only going to offer Bledsoe the 4/48 or else they'd be fine with him taking the QO.
However it was Bledsoe who had stated it was the max or else he would take the QO. And at the end of the day he didn't get the max and he didn't take the QO. Now did he do a good job of negotiating and compromising a fair deal for himself? Yes. But in no way do any of your articles that you post show me that it was the Suns who 'caved' to Bledsoe's demands of a max contract.