Are the Raptors currently the 2nd best team in the East?

PierceFan4ever · Post #261 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:12 am

Throwback24 wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:It's not the Celtics, the players on the team and the fan base know the Raptors own them. If they meet up in the playoffs the Celtics are going home.

Don't make any mistake about it. They aren't the team the Wiz swept, the Wiz are now the Raptors sons. The Celtics are in the same tier as them

Oh really? Could have sworn the Celtics beat the Raptors earlier without Kyrie...hmmmm

We can go back and forth presenting who won the last 5 matchups. The general sentiment in a lot of basketball circles is that the Raptors are superior.

I mean if they're the peoples champ, who are we to argue this? They were anointed by the PEOPLE and represent the PEOPLE.

If you're looking to take an exotic vacation next summer, you know where you'll lay your money in the playoffs. In your heart of hearts, you know.

As do Raptor fans.

Uhhh but last year's team has nothing to do with th...nevermind. Don't know what other jibberish you're saying but have at it :lol:

Johnny Bball · Post #262 » by **Johnny Bball** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:12 am

Nope they aren’t. Just go back to ignoring them.

Asif16 · Post #263 » by **Asif16** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:28 am

Who the hell bumped this. I prefer to just chug along low key

BloodNinja · Post #264 » by **BloodNinja** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:57 am

Asif16 wrote:Who the hell bumped this. I prefer to just chug along low key

No can do. Raps are looking very good this year - clear cut top 3. They did a great job re-tooling

RaptorsLife · Post #265 » by **RaptorsLife** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:37 am

Asif16 wrote:Who the hell bumped this. I prefer to just chug along low key

tbh I shouldn't have bump this. we can't prove anything until April and May which is fair assessment after last few years in playoffs Let's keep enjoying awesome basketball and get the first seed

720 · Post #266 » by **720** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:31 am

username_taken wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Big win for raptors tonight along with Saltics loss means the plus minus stats are more favourable for the raps.

Interestingly enough we're getting it done with the starters now. JV looking more tradeable/valuable lately.

Saltics? Are you seven years old?

Personally I like Celtikkks a lot more. :lol:

S1 - Stop insulting a fanbase like this.

CoachD · Post #267 » by **CoachD** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:33 pm

PierceFan4ever wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:It's not the Celtics, the players on the team and the fan base know the Raptors own them. If they meet up in the playoffs the Celtics are going home.

Don't make any mistake about it. They aren't the team the Wiz swept, the Wiz are now the Raptors sons. The Celtics are in the same tier as them

Oh really? Could have sworn the Celtics beat the Raptors earlier without Kyrie...hmmmm

LOL if you add up the net rating of Boston AND Cleveland this year ... It adds up to SLIGHTLY higher than Toronto. Both of them COMBINED. That's how much better Toronto has been than both ... With a tougher schedule ... With way more west coast games and the fewest home games I'm the league.

Raptors WILL own that 1 seed.

CoachD · Post #268 » by **CoachD** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:38 pm

CelticsLV wrote:Raps are trending upwards while Celtics are gradually regressing. Not so far fetched to say that Raps are better as of now. I was really surprised with Celtics start of the season and was more pessimistic after Hayward went down. After the win streak Boston hasn't been good at all. Raps and Cavs have been playing much better and most stats suggest it too. W/L, NetRtg etc. Celtics offense has been above average but defense has regressed big time.

Their offense went from below average to average or slightly above. Its still not a good offense by ANY stretch

Vee-Rex · Post #269 » by **Vee-Rex** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:56 pm

You guys don't need to seek validation after every Raps win or Cavs/Celtics loss. Just let it play out and you guys will make noise in the playoffs if you truly are a different/better team.

Even LeBron gets quite a bit of flak and disrespect DESPITE winning the East 7 years straight, so it's only natural people will doubt the Raps as well. It's on the Raptors to prove them wrong. Don't let it bother you.

Moose23 · Post #270 » by **Moose23** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:59 pm

Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

Throwback24 · Post #271 » by **Throwback24** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:10 pm

Moose23 wrote:Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

Of course none of it should matter. Point being, the theme of the thread is: The Raptors are 2nd behind the Cavs

Don't see any issue with what's being said in this thread. If you can't handle hearing the people speak, go back to your safe space.

The Flying Gent · Post #272 » by **The Flying Gent** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:10 pm

Moose23 wrote:Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

It's basketball. It's grown men running around putting a ball through a hoop. None of this matters at all. But people do like to watch, analyse and talk about it, so i suggest you let them.

Lauri_Legend · Post #273 » by **Lauri_Legend** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:22 pm

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I think Denzel has something to say about that :lol:

Moose23 · Post #274 » by **Moose23** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:24 pm

The Flying Gent wrote:
Moose23 wrote:Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

It's basketball. It's grown men running around putting a ball through a hoop. None of this matters at all. But people do like to watch, analyse and talk about it, so i suggest you let them.

so when till a thread is started about who is the 5th best team in the east?

or 7th?

Wasp · Post #275 » by **Wasp** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:37 pm

Moose23 wrote:
The Flying Gent wrote:
Moose23 wrote:Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

It's basketball. It's grown men running around putting a ball through a hoop. None of this matters at all. But people do like to watch, analyse and talk about it, so i suggest you let them.

so when till a thread is started about who is the 5th best team in the east?

or 7th?

You mean like every "Rank the East" or "East Playoff Prediction" thread? Or in your mind, should there be zero posts on the GB until after the Finals, as long as they only contain content about the winning team?

I get the whole "play to win" thing, but the 'Chips or nothing crowd is really getting annoying.

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Mister Ze · Post #276 » by **Mister Ze** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:43 pm

RaptorsLife wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Who the hell bumped this. I prefer to just chug along low key

tbh I shouldn't have bump this. we can't prove anything until April and May which is fair assessment after last few years in playoffs Let's keep enjoying awesome basketball and get the first seed

I think the remaining RS games against Cleveland/Boston will be a good indicator of how good this team is.

The_Hater · Post #277 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:44 pm

Moose23 wrote:Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

If we really think about it, absolutely nothing we talk about on this website matters.

But it is an NBA discussion forum so we persist anyways. Crazy...

BBallG · Post #278 » by **BBallG** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:45 pm

Moose23 wrote:
The Flying Gent wrote:
Moose23 wrote:Why is this thread even needed?

what matters is who is the best team.

No awards for second or third place, or Atlantic division championships.....at least none that should be celebrated

It's basketball. It's grown men running around putting a ball through a hoop. None of this matters at all. But people do like to watch, analyse and talk about it, so i suggest you let them.

so when till a thread is started about who is the 5th best team in the east?

or 7th?

Yeah we should only talk about GSW and no other team because they are the best team and we don't take kindly to non best teams in these here parts....

bmurph128 · Post #279 » by **bmurph128** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:46 pm

The Raptors and Rockets are very similar teams. Both consistently perform in the regular season and don't do much in the playoffs.

The Raptors catch so much flak for the Cavs beating them down - but for some reason people give the Rockets a pass. Probably because Harden is a super star while the Raptors just have all stars.

If LeBron was out for game 4 of the series last year, and the Cavs destroyed the Raptors in Toronto, there would still be threads laughing at the Raptors.

KnightofHyrule · Post #280 » by **KnightofHyrule** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:49 pm

PierceFan4ever wrote:
Throwback24 wrote:It's not the Celtics, the players on the team and the fan base know the Raptors own them. If they meet up in the playoffs the Celtics are going home.

Don't make any mistake about it. They aren't the team the Wiz swept, the Wiz are now the Raptors sons. The Celtics are in the same tier as them

Oh really? Could have sworn the Celtics beat the Raptors earlier without Kyrie...hmmmm

And lemme guess, the Lakers could eliminate the Rockets? The Heat, without Whiteside, Dragic, Johnson & Winslow could eliminate the Celtics?

Yes, the Celtics beat the Raptors without Hayward and Irving. Because good teams lose to bad teams all the time, especially on the road. You learned that last night, at home.

Now, I'm not about calling the Wiz and Celtics our "sons", because when you factor in regular season fatigue, it could make the playoff matchups are pretty close. I have no idea how Lowry's restricted minutes are going to help him in the long run. I also expect he will take quite a few games off in the 2nd half of the season. But monitoring Lowry and DeRozan's fatigue levels can affect exactly what tier the Raptors will be in come April.