TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding"

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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#261 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:53 pm

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I've reconsidered.

There is proof that Cousins is a good dad in that photo. Here's a guy who's willing to wear a sweater and pants that he very clearly outgrew years ago to get his kid clothes that he fits into... and can grow into.

That's sacrifice. And good sound planning for the future. That's being a good dad.


okay, let's play, where is your proof that he's not a good dad?



Huh? You're a terrible reader.

I just wrote that he's a "good dad."

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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#262 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:53 pm

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I'm not dying on any hill. How many times do I need to say that he shouldn't have said what he said and should be punished accordingly (no I DONT think he should banned from the NBA)

now, if you think 'im dying on this hill' because I don't want him banned from the NBA, so **** be it. :lol:


You are defending him, that's literally the hill you've chosen. There is NO defense of someone who behaves like this. We can talk about how the mother is wrong for weaponizing the child, sure, but that's irrelevant to the fact that HE THREATENED TO HAVE HER KILLED. Are you serious?


Relax, it's perfectly normal to have two thoughts in your head at the same time: "Demarcus is a POS for threatening to kill her" and "POS move by the girl not to allow him to see his son."


seriously, I don't fkn get why that's so hard to understand for these people, they want to white knight so fkn hard they jump down your throat and don't even bother thinking logically about what's being said.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#263 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:54 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
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I've reconsidered.

There is proof that Cousins is a good dad in that photo. Here's a guy who's willing to wear a sweater and pants that he very clearly outgrew years ago to get his kid clothes that he fits into... and can grow into.

That's sacrifice. And good sound planning for the future. That's being a good dad.


okay, let's play, where is your proof that he's not a good dad?



Huh? You're a terrible reader.

I just wrote that he's a "good dad."

:crazy: :banghead: :roll:


good, so we agree that, as far as we know, he's a good father. glad we have that established.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#264 » by freethedevil » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:54 pm

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yea maybe he is, or maybe she's another hood rat gold digger that uses her child for $$$ like many of them do.

based on this convo it sounds like he was just begging her to let him see his kid?


Who knows? Maybe it wasn't his time? Maybe he's a **** father? Maybe he's threatened her life before...

I mean this is obvious but what difference does it make? Not defending Cousins but not being his time isn't a good excuse from keeping a kid from their parent's wedding. At all. Actually it would make you a completely **** narcissist to do that.

The kid not wanting to go to the wedding is a perfectly fair reason not to make him go. This is why you don't make baseless assumptions
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#265 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:55 pm

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I mean, you don't really know the context right? You could be right, or maybe you're wrong. Maybe Cousins is a **** father ...


yea maybe he is, or maybe she's another hood rat gold digger that uses her child for $$$ like many of them do.

based on this convo it sounds like he was just begging her to let him see his kid?

Maybe, but you don't know, so stop acting like you do.


hence the *sounds like* in the beginning of my post.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#266 » by TheNewEra » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:56 pm

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This recording was sent to the police before TMZ ever got their hands on it.



Just everything together is just so petty and childish on both sides. All this talk of mental health and the depression that comes from injuries and you don’t let this man have his child at his wedding? Cousins should of known better even being emotional and frustrated that anytime you can be recorded


I'm not defending her keeping her son from going to his wedding, but none of that remotely makes it okay for him to threaten to kill her. What the hell? How can you "both sides" a domestic violence issue?

Some of yall act like this is normal behavior or something to just shrug off. It's not. When people make threats like that they have to be taken 100% seriously, which is why I'm glad the police are involved now. Cousins is **** ed in his head.



It’s a bad look but let’s not act like he’s not human he’s going through some **** and the one bright spot as of late was his wedding. It was a threat not a act of violence and she has every right to report it if she feels but let’s not act like he has not always shown signs of being emotionally out of it

Let’s keep it real everyone here has threatened harm on someone when at your breaking point of anger. Take into account everything he’s been going through and now feel like his baby mother is playing games with his son I’m not going to internet destroy the guy for being emotional.

DEMARCUS COUSINS was wrong but why is mental health never given as a example for outbursts like this here? Cousins should of never have made the threat but to act like people can’t push your buttons when you are going through it to make you same something you wouldn’t say is being fake.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#267 » by Snakebites » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:57 pm

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Obviously Cousins shouldn't be making death threats especially in this day & age, but I personally have a hard time pitying someone biting the hand that feeds her.

We don’t know the full context though. Maybe this is a pattern of behavior.

I also don’t really like the “hand that feeds her” language here. He’s obligated to provide child support both legally and morally. The fact that he’s paying it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to call out abusive behavior.

I don’t think we should be crucifying this lady based on what we know. We’ve got enough to be critical of Cousins behavior. The tape is sufficient. Until more is known that’s what the point here ought to be.


She has every right to call out abusive behavior. Whether it will sit well with people is another story.

If some random thot wants to pop out a kid with an NBA player for 18 years of child support more power to her, I don't have to respect her decision to publicly shame the child & probably scar that kid for life

I just have issue with you making lots of negative assumptions about her while making none about him.

This post here is full of them.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#268 » by Pointgod » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:57 pm

Clyde has some serious anger issues against women. Yikes
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#269 » by freethedevil » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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yea maybe he is, or maybe she's another hood rat gold digger that uses her child for $$$ like many of them do.

based on this convo it sounds like he was just begging her to let him see his kid?

Maybe, but you don't know, so stop acting like you do.


hence the *sounds like* in the beginning of my post.

It doesn't sound like ****. You have no knowledge of the situation so you'rein no position to be making assumptions. Misogyny aside.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#270 » by mixerball » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:58 pm

you can hear in her voice that she enjoyed that "no".
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#271 » by jason bourne » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:58 pm

Based on what's important...

Congrats to Boogie for his wedding and best wishes.

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Ex-gf. Is she going to file charges? Did Boogie know he was being recorded? His son did not attend the wedding even though invited. Did he want to go?
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#272 » by mixerball » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:00 pm

Pointgod wrote:Clyde has some serious anger issues against women. Yikes

against certain type of women
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#273 » by freethedevil » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:03 pm

duppyy wrote:She most likely recorded it because she knows he will say something like that. It's no secret that he's a hot head and most likely has a habit of saying abusive things like this.

Whether it was wrong or right can be debated but you can't really defend verbal abuse like that. If she has full custody of the kid she is well within her right to keep the kid from going to the wedding.

Totally fair. Mom used to do ****, so I recorded it, and then she stopped doing ****.

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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#274 » by wade44 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:06 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Snakebites wrote:We don’t know the full context though. Maybe this is a pattern of behavior.

I also don’t really like the “hand that feeds her” language here. He’s obligated to provide child support both legally and morally. The fact that he’s paying it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to call out abusive behavior.

I don’t think we should be crucifying this lady based on what we know. We’ve got enough to be critical of Cousins behavior. The tape is sufficient. Until more is known that’s what the point here ought to be.


She has every right to call out abusive behavior. Whether it will sit well with people is another story.

If some random thot wants to pop out a kid with an NBA player for 18 years of child support more power to her, I don't have to respect her decision to publicly shame the child & probably scar that kid for life

I just have issue with you making lots of negative assumptions about her while making none about him.

This post here is full of them.


So you think the mom was justified going directly to TMZ to report him?
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#275 » by TheNewEra » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:07 pm

Man even with the threat and the drama this has been one hell of a ride for Cousins these two weeks . Tore his ACL to end his season around the time of his birthday and now during his wedding will have possible legal drama and the league investigating jeopardizing his already limited chance of getting back in the league.

Hate Cousins all you want but this would make me depressed as hell.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#276 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:07 pm

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freethedevil wrote:Maybe, but you don't know, so stop acting like you do.


hence the *sounds like* in the beginning of my post.

It doesn't sound like ****. You have no knowledge of the situation so you'rein no position to be making assumptions. Misogyny aside.


you're right, we don't know anything really, but we do know:

1. Cousins wanted his boy at his wedding

2. She withheld the kid from seeing his dad and from Cousins seeing his kid

3. Cousins got pissed and said something he shouldn't have said

i can make a pretty good inference based on this information and what I already know about Cousins following his career for almost a decade, thanks.

misogyny aside of course.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#277 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:08 pm

Pointgod wrote:Clyde has some serious anger issues against women. Yikes


given that I was raised by 3 women myself, i don't think that's true. :lol:

but do tell us more.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#278 » by markjay » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:09 pm

This is one of the most disgusting threads I've ever seen on this forum. It's a real eye opener for me about how apparently many men think.

What we know is that a player with the reputation of having anger issues threatened to put a bullet through his ex's head. And people are defending him by calling her all sorts of slanderous names and accusing her of "weaponizing her child."

Isn't the most logical explanation for her recording him is that he has threatened her in the past and this time she wanted to protect herself from his threats? And given that he just threatened murder, isn't the most logical explanation that she doesn't trust her son being left alone with him? Is it really that hard to believe that somebody who would threaten murder might also mistreat their kid--or at the very least would not respect a custody agreement and return the kid as he is supposed to do? If this is a legitimate request, shouldn't Cousins be going through his attorney to make the arrangements well ahead of time, rather than calling his ex to threaten her a few days before the event?

Those are all things I would assume. But you don't have to assume anything. Just go by the fact that HE THREATENED TO KILL HER IN A VERY SPECIFIC WAY and ignore all the rest. And think about how many women are murdered by their ex's in this country every year.

As for what happens to him, I doubt if he ever plays in the NBA again. Even this year, all he could get was a one-year $3.5 million contract -- and that was before (a) he tore his ACL and (b) threatened to kill his ex. The ACL tear means that the expected upside is lower, while the threat means that the downside (bad publicity from signing someone like that) is larger.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#279 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:10 pm

Pharenheit wrote:
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She has every right to call out abusive behavior. Whether it will sit well with people is another story.

If some random thot wants to pop out a kid with an NBA player for 18 years of child support more power to her, I don't have to respect her decision to publicly shame the child & probably scar that kid for life

I just have issue with you making lots of negative assumptions about her while making none about him.

This post here is full of them.


So you think the mom was justified going directly to TMZ to report him?


Unfortunately, here in the real world, it appears that TMZ got the story from the public record. She went to the police. The story says:

TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#280 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:12 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Clyde has some serious anger issues against women. Yikes


given that I was raised by 3 women myself, i don't think that's true. :lol:

but do tell us more.



It's pretty obvious you didn't have a strong male role model in your life.

Maybe you just needed a good dad, maybe somebody like Demarcus Cousins, to show you the ropes in how to make veiled threats, chose the right size for clothes, how to extend threads online, et al.

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