Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba

[Ugly Duckling]

He def has the potential to take the reins, but rn I'd say he's top 10

Top 10? How generous.

Yeah I mean I def have LeBron, Kawhi, AD, Giannis and Harden in front of him. So he's not top 5

[pr0wler]

Why don't teams play off Luka more? He could still improve, but he hasn't really shown he can hit the 3-Point shot at a high percentage. Just enough to keep him honest, sure, but he's no Klay Thompson from range by any means. I'd start daring him to shoot a bit more and don't let him get into the paint where he can do his fancy tricks and get close range 2 point shots or create for teammates effectively.

He is shooting 33% from 3 taking the most difficult shot possible. Don´t think giving him more space is going to help.

That's slightly misleading, however. He's 33% from 3 overall, yes, including the difficult step backs.

But almost 1/4 of his 3-pointers are assisted, which are presumably wide open or close to open shots. It's not unreasonable to assume he's hitting those between 35-40%. If you average those samples together I'd bet he's actually closer to around 30% on these step backs and contested 3's. Not enough imo where you have to chase him around like he's Steph Curry. It's actually very difficult to do, and only the best shooters in the league can hit these shots at a high percentage and they tend to be guys that are mid to high 80's FT shooters.

I'm not saying teams should play 10 feet back and build a wall like they're against Giannis, but if I'm defending him I'm gonna give him a few feet of space and see if he can hit the 3 ball consistently off the dribble.This would also eliminate the chances of fouling him on step back 3 pointers which add a lot of value to the shot in the first place.

Personally, I'm not quite convinced he is quite good enough of a shooter yet to warrant playing him that close just yet.

[DCRYsing89]

29.9 ppg, 10.4rpg, 9.7 assists Per game and the Mavs being the surprise team sitting 5th in the Western conference with a relatively crappy roster outside of Doncic and Porzingis! This kid is extraterrestrial

This season play wise I would still be taking Bron or Giannis
They are also actually positives on Defense...

But damn this kid is playing good

Giannis is planets away in defense, but there is a misconception that Luka is a terrible defender.
He is average. The stats show he is not a negative.

He has great positioning. Although, there are times when his effort on defending fast breaks is nonexistent - I can give him a pass for that because at times he is in foul trouble. He has a tendency to pick up offensive fouls and he knows his team needs him in the game.

I agree he plays similar level defence to pre-injury Bron last year,
Smart, but low effort...
Which although not a negative, is generally neutral (in BPM can be positive because of teammates and just solely not being bad)
Just my personal opinion, I do have him playing the 3rd best this season and playing himself into the top 10 players so far...

But I don’t feel he is the best...

[zonedefense]

Why don't teams play off Luka more? He could still improve, but he hasn't really shown he can hit the 3-Point shot at a high percentage. Just enough to keep him honest, sure, but he's no Klay Thompson from range by any means. I'd start daring him to shoot a bit more and don't let him get into the paint where he can do his fancy tricks and get close range 2 point shots or create for teammates effectively.

He is shooting 33% from 3 taking the most difficult shot possible. Don´t think giving him more space is going to help.

That's slightly misleading, however. He's 33% from 3 overall, yes, including the difficult step backs.

But almost 1/4 of his 3-pointers are assisted, which are presumably wide open or close to open shots. It's not unreasonable to assume he's hitting those between 35-40%. If you average those samples together I'd bet he's actually closer to around 30% on these step backs and contested 3's. Not enough imo where you have to chase him around like he's Steph Curry. It's actually very difficult to do, and only the best shooters in the league can hit these shots at a high percentage and they tend to be guys that are mid to high 80's FT shooters.

I'm not saying teams should play 10 feet back and build a wall like they're against Giannis, but if I'm defending him I'm gonna give him a few feet of space and see if he can hit the 3 ball consistently off the dribble.This would also eliminate the chances of fouling him on step back 3 pointers which add a lot of value to the shot in the first place.

Personally, I'm not quite convinced he is quite good enough of a shooter yet to warrant playing him that close just yet.

We have the numbers. He is shooting 35.2% on step back jumpshots. And that´s with at least one defender right in his face most of the time. Not unreasonable to assume that he would improve his percentages by at least 2-3% if defenders give him more space.
He obviously isn´t Curry or Thompson. Best comparisation probably is Harden.

[jourdy]

This season play wise I would still be taking Bron or Giannis
They are also actually positives on Defense...

But damn this kid is playing good

Giannis is planets away in defense, but there is a misconception that Luka is a terrible defender.
He is average. The stats show he is not a negative.

He has great positioning. Although, there are times when his effort on defending fast breaks is nonexistent - I can give him a pass for that because at times he is in foul trouble. He has a tendency to pick up offensive fouls and he knows his team needs him in the game.

I agree he plays similar level defence to pre-injury Bron last year,
Smart, but low effort...
Which although not a negative, is generally neutral (in BPM can be positive because of teammates and just solely not being bad)
Just my personal opinion, I do have him playing the 3rd best this season and playing himself into the top 10 players so far...

But I don’t feel he is the best...

I agree. Giannis is the best right now IMO

[pr0wler]

He is shooting 33% from 3 taking the most difficult shot possible. Don´t think giving him more space is going to help.

That's slightly misleading, however. He's 33% from 3 overall, yes, including the difficult step backs.

But almost 1/4 of his 3-pointers are assisted, which are presumably wide open or close to open shots. It's not unreasonable to assume he's hitting those between 35-40%. If you average those samples together I'd bet he's actually closer to around 30% on these step backs and contested 3's. Not enough imo where you have to chase him around like he's Steph Curry. It's actually very difficult to do, and only the best shooters in the league can hit these shots at a high percentage and they tend to be guys that are mid to high 80's FT shooters.

I'm not saying teams should play 10 feet back and build a wall like they're against Giannis, but if I'm defending him I'm gonna give him a few feet of space and see if he can hit the 3 ball consistently off the dribble.This would also eliminate the chances of fouling him on step back 3 pointers which add a lot of value to the shot in the first place.

Personally, I'm not quite convinced he is quite good enough of a shooter yet to warrant playing him that close just yet.

We have the numbers. He is shooting 35.2% on step back jumpshots. And that´s with at least one defender right in his face most of the time. Not unreasonable to assume that he would improve his percentages by at least 2-3% if defenders give him more space.
He obviously isn´t Curry or Thompson. Best comparisation probably is Harden.

Fair enough.

Where does the overall percentage of 33% come from then? I am a bit confused then tbh lol.

[BarneyGumble]

He’s got my vote. If I could have any player in the league to build around for the next 5+ years.....he’s it.

[zonedefense]

That's slightly misleading, however. He's 33% from 3 overall, yes, including the difficult step backs.

But almost 1/4 of his 3-pointers are assisted, which are presumably wide open or close to open shots. It's not unreasonable to assume he's hitting those between 35-40%. If you average those samples together I'd bet he's actually closer to around 30% on these step backs and contested 3's. Not enough imo where you have to chase him around like he's Steph Curry. It's actually very difficult to do, and only the best shooters in the league can hit these shots at a high percentage and they tend to be guys that are mid to high 80's FT shooters.

I'm not saying teams should play 10 feet back and build a wall like they're against Giannis, but if I'm defending him I'm gonna give him a few feet of space and see if he can hit the 3 ball consistently off the dribble.This would also eliminate the chances of fouling him on step back 3 pointers which add a lot of value to the shot in the first place.

Personally, I'm not quite convinced he is quite good enough of a shooter yet to warrant playing him that close just yet.

We have the numbers. He is shooting 35.2% on step back jumpshots. And that´s with at least one defender right in his face most of the time. Not unreasonable to assume that he would improve his percentages by at least 2-3% if defenders give him more space.
He obviously isn´t Curry or Thompson. Best comparisation probably is Harden.

Fair enough.

Where does the overall percentage of 33% come from then? I am a bit confused then tbh lol.

29.6% on catch and shoot 3s.