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Big J wrote:This kind of loser mentality stays with teams for a long time. It doesn’t matter how many draft picks you get, if you have a losing culture it sticks with the team for years. Just look at the Clippers of the 80s-00s.
urgal wrote:Big J wrote:This kind of loser mentality stays with teams for a long time. It doesn’t matter how many draft picks you get, if you have a losing culture it sticks with the team for years. Just look at the Clippers of the 80s-00s.
Yeah just look at what the 76ers have become. I believe they all really hate where they are now.
Big J wrote:urgal wrote:Big J wrote:This kind of loser mentality stays with teams for a long time. It doesn’t matter how many draft picks you get, if you have a losing culture it sticks with the team for years. Just look at the Clippers of the 80s-00s.
Yeah just look at what the 76ers have become. I believe they all really hate where they are now.
The sixers culture changed when they got rid of Hinkie.
DrCoach wrote:Its Smart, Cade is from OKC and would instantly turn their team around. It would be stupid to not try to get him
baldur wrote:so will okc shut down SGA next season too if they have a bad start? so they will be shutting such a young and hot prospect SGA two years in a row, as he does need to play for his improvement. How do you justify this Okc fans? you are building up future's team by not playing your franchise player?
timO wrote:Sactowndog wrote:OKC was close to Detroit tonight and their players suddenly started missing lay-ups and turning the ball over. Suddenly what do you know Detroit spread the lead out.
The Kings are playing Fox 40 minutes and are legitimately awful. But we will win all three upcoming games against OKC and pick 8 or 9 while they pick 4.
As suspected the new rules have made the situation worse not better.
kings need that pick 8 so hard, they need to accomplish 20 year playoff drough
Dn4sty wrote:baldur wrote:so will okc shut down SGA next season too if they have a bad start? so they will be shutting such a young and hot prospect SGA two years in a row, as he does need to play for his improvement. How do you justify this Okc fans? you are building up future's team by not playing your franchise player?
The Lakers tanked. Do you remember Ronnie Turiaf and Tarik Black....? Or do you just like to troll Thunder fans
urgal wrote:Big J wrote:urgal wrote:Yeah just look at what the 76ers have become. I believe they all really hate where they are now.
The sixers culture changed when they got rid of Hinkie.
No, it changed when their draft picks developed and they started to get rid of the players that were only on the roster to lose games.
Which is exactly what OKC is gonna do.
And btw are you kidding me? Colangelo took over after Hinkie and nearly destroyed anything Hinkie had built until he managed to get himself fired. What the hell? Was that the cultural shift you were talking about?
sashaturiaf wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:sashaturiaf wrote:
And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.
Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title
Guess how San Antonio got David Robinson? It was the tank of all tanks.
It's okay to not be a historian of the game and to have only started following it recently. But please trust me that this didn't start with Hinkie. Not even close.
You mean Tim Duncan right？that was a one time opportunistic tank since their franchise player got injured for the year.
Show me a 90s team that actively fielded the worst teams they can before the season even started, and stockpiled picks like Presti and Hinkie did
Lol at you chuck lecturing me about the history.of the game when you cant even get Robinson/Duncan right
Big J wrote:urgal wrote:Big J wrote:
The sixers culture changed when they got rid of Hinkie.
No, it changed when their draft picks developed and they started to get rid of the players that were only on the roster to lose games.
Which is exactly what OKC is gonna do.
And btw are you kidding me? Colangelo took over after Hinkie and nearly destroyed anything Hinkie had built until he managed to get himself fired. What the hell? Was that the cultural shift you were talking about?
Who was the guy who got rid of all of Hinkies guys who were on the roster to lose games? That was Colangelo. Hinkie would have just kept trading away good players for future assets, which he kept doing time and time again.
On May 29, 2018, The Ringer published an investigation alleging Colangelo used up to five secret Twitter accounts to disparage his predecessor, Hinkie, as well as several 76ers players including Joel Embiid and Jahlil Okafor. The next day, the 76ers announced that they were commencing an investigation into the matter.[27] Colangelo denied the report in a statement.[28] On June 7, 2018, Colangelo resigned as a result of the Twitter scandal.[29] The situation related to his wife, Barbara Bottini, creating three of the five fake Twitter accounts involved that leaked potentially sensitive information about the Philadelphia 76ers organization, among other details. Colangelo also had an account, but he never used it for messaging purposes.
Dn4sty wrote:baldur wrote:so will okc shut down SGA next season too if they have a bad start? so they will be shutting such a young and hot prospect SGA two years in a row, as he does need to play for his improvement. How do you justify this Okc fans? you are building up future's team by not playing your franchise player?
The Lakers tanked. Do you remember Ronnie Turiaf and Tarik Black....? Or do you just like to troll Thunder fans
batmana wrote:I know we're 14 pages in and my comment will likely not be noticed at all, and I didn't read the 14 pages either, but OKC are an absolute disgrace with the product they are presenting. However, everyone around the NBA is to blame for this. We all collectively (even though I have always been against tanking and have always defended trying to win games as a way to improve) are to blame for being OK with teams repeatedly putting G-League (or worse) product on the court, keeping their real players out for whatever reasons and for defending tanking in all of its forms.
Yet the league thinks fining the Spurs (always the Spurs) 50K for resting a couple of guys casual fans can't even recognize, IN A GAME THEY ACTUALLY WON, is taking some steps against tanking. When teams try to win games, it's OK to not play a certain player on a given night, be it just to rest him. But when a team sends its best players home and trots out lineups of 8 G-Leaguers who in a normal situation would never sniff a full-time NBA contract, they somehow don't get fined.
I don't know if there is any solution to this but it is also tied to the buyout farce which allows guys making tens of millions to sign for the minimum with teams over the cap like that's not a loophole.
urgal wrote:Big J wrote:This kind of loser mentality stays with teams for a long time. It doesn’t matter how many draft picks you get, if you have a losing culture it sticks with the team for years. Just look at the Clippers of the 80s-00s.
Yeah just look at what the 76ers have become. I believe they all really hate where they are now.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
