2022 All-Star reserves [UPDATED]

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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves [UPDATED] 

Post#261 » by Maverick41 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:23 am

I'm quite surprised Lamelo didn't make it.
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Post#262 » by G R E Y » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:23 am

For those saying record matters, there were plenty of times Manu and Tony didn't get in when the Spurs had great records, so no 3 All-Stars.

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Post#264 » by chrisab123 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:26 am

There was zero chance Tatum was getting left off this team. None.
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Post#265 » by johanliebert » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:26 am

TK Smart wrote:Zach LaVine should be starting
DeMar should be in the backup forward spot instead of Middleton
LaMelo should be in DeMar's guard spot.

Demar doesn’t even get love from the hometown team. If draymond green gets in with a 7/7/7 line cause of his teams record there’s no justifying melo over derozan.

The fans voted him in as a starter move on.
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Post#266 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:27 am

jbk1234 wrote:I'm happy for Garland, but he should really consider declining if he's missing games due to injury. He won't because the game has financial implications for guys on rookie contracts, but really should use the break to rest up.


I get that, in theory. But for a guy like Garland, getting on the court, practicing with all these dudes, and the confidence is gives young players? It’ll be a really big experience for him, I know Tatum and other young guys really hit another gear after making it the first time.

Edit: As long as he’s actually healthy.
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Post#267 » by Doctor MJ » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:28 am

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JDR720 wrote:I don't think Bridges has been all-star worthy, but to not have Melo is ridiculous. We're the only East team in the top 10 that doesn't have an all-star? That's nuts.


Dude, there are 9 teams in the East with a positive SRS, and they all got all-stars. I wouldn't have been upset with a Hornet making it - I thought both Ball & Bridges were serious candidates - but there was absolutely nothing about the Hornets' team performance this season that put them in the "they gotta get an all-star" category. When you're mediocre, as the Hornets have been, sometimes you get a guy, sometimes you don't.

Huh? The Hornets SRS is - .35 That's negligible at best. We have a great offense, and a terrible defense. Melo doesn't help on defense, obviously. But he is our best offensive player by a solid margin. He's probably our best rebounder too.

And as far as SOS goes, it's higher than several other Eastern teams that have an all-star (or two).


Hmm, I would agree that it's "negligible at best". As I said, it's mediocre. The case for LaMelo absolutely needs to be made based on him being so impressive that he makes it despite not having the team success that typically is required in order to qualify for being a snub.

Re: SOS. I said SRS. SOS is just who you've played, SRS is how impressive your performance is given the people you've played, and all 9 of the teams that got all-stars rank higher than the Hornets do.
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Post#268 » by johanliebert » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:28 am

Something needs to be done if draymond found a way in. This is worse than the Pistons lineup getting in his can coaches justify 7/7/7?
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Post#269 » by TK Smart » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:31 am

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TK Smart wrote:Zach LaVine should be starting
DeMar should be in the backup forward spot instead of Middleton
LaMelo should be in DeMar's guard spot.

Demar doesn’t even get love from the hometown team. If draymond green gets in with a 7/7/7 line cause of his teams record there’s no justifying melo over derozan.

The fans voted him in as a starter move on.



I'm saying DeMar DeRozan is clearly a forward.

DeRozan should be in as a forward, Middleton should be out, LaMelo is the guard that takes DeMar's spot. DeMar shouldn't start over Giannis and KD bro, I love what he's doing for the Bulls but he's not better than Giannis and KD.
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Post#270 » by turnaroundJ » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:31 am

Lamelo’s gotta get in for someone
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Post#271 » by Triple M » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:32 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:They're a #9 seed, the guy will start for KD and be entertaining but your reasoning is not why he made the team lol


Yes they are the 9th seed, but they are tied with #8, 0.5 behind 7, 2 behind #6 and 5 or 6 games out of 1st. They are probably not your typical 9th seed so I'm not sure why it is a point of emphasis.

To me it makes sense that #1 to #10 start by getting 1 player in then the Bulls getting a 2nd name sense. Mil and Cle are probably the only team's that you can argue for a 2nd player
They're also 3.5 games out of being the 12th seed, it's a valid conversation point. I like the guy but if he is as good as people say, his team wouldn't be fighting for a play-in seed.


Why does this single out Tatum though?
FVV Raps are also 2.5 out
CHA is 3 and so on

It's isn't rarity for an all star to make it from the 8th to 10 seed in the East. And the top of the East teams have not played well enough to deserve 2 all stars given that they are only 5 games out of struggling themselves.

Again I think it is equitable that seeds #1 to #10 each got 1 star with 2 of Chi, Cle and Mil deserving 3.
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Post#272 » by KembaWalker » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:32 am

Anyone know when the injury reserved typically get announced
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Post#273 » by Doctor MJ » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:33 am

Maverick41 wrote:I'm quite surprised Lamelo didn't make it.


Honestly I'm surprised he wasn't a strong candidate for the fan vote, and had he been strong for the fan vote, I think he might have made it here.

All this talk about how exciting LaMelo is and how that should factor into the all-star consideration really falls flat when the fans themselves really didn't make him come close.

Not that I don't think LaMelo is exciting - I think he is - nor that LaMelo wasn't a worthy candidate - because I think he was - but the fan vote clearly indicated that there wasn't any particular reason to force him into the game in the name of pleasing rabid fans. He really doesn't have the kind of mass fan support that, say, Trae Young had in his second year, whether people think that's right or not.
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Post#274 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:38 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Triple M wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:They're a #9 seed, the guy will start for KD and be entertaining but your reasoning is not why he made the team lol


Yes they are the 9th seed, but they are tied with #8, 0.5 behind 7, 2 behind #6 and 5 or 6 games out of 1st. They are probably not your typical 9th seed so I'm not sure why it is a point of emphasis.

To me it makes sense that #1 to #10 start by getting 1 player in then the Bulls getting a 2nd name sense. Mil and Cle are probably the only team's that you can argue for a 2nd player
They're also 3.5 games out of being the 12th seed, it's a valid conversation point. I like the guy but if he is as good as people say, his team wouldn't be fighting for a play-in seed.


When he’s in the game, the Celtics have a +7 net rating, when he sits, they have a -4 net rating. A swing of 11 is pretty drastic. They just fall off a cliff when he has to sit.
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Post#275 » by GSP » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:39 am

I know one is backcourt and the other frontcourt so voting isnt related but Khris being the 2nd Buck and not Jrue is egregious. Jrue has been far and away Milwaukees 2nd best player. IMO hes been better than Harden this season
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Post#276 » by JDR720 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:41 am

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Hmm, I would agree that it's "negligible at best". As I said, it's mediocre. The case for LaMelo absolutely needs to be made based on him being so impressive that he makes it despite not having the team success that typically is required in order to qualify for being a snub.

Re: SOS. I said SRS. SOS is just who you've played, SRS is how impressive your performance is given the people you've played, and all 9 of the teams that got all-stars rank higher than the Hornets do.

Our record would be better if

- Anyone on the team knew how to play defense or we had respectable bigs.
- We got to play more home games. We've played 30 road games already. That's the most in the league, along with Orlando. Compared to just 22 home games.
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Post#277 » by LivingLegend » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:42 am

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jbk1234 wrote:I'm happy for Garland, but he should really consider declining if he's missing games due to injury. He won't because the game has financial implications for guys on rookie contracts, but really should use the break to rest up.


I get that, in theory. But for a guy like Garland, getting on the court, practicing with all these dudes, and the confidence is gives young players? It’ll be a really big experience for him, I know Tatum and other young guys really hit another gear after making it the first time.

Edit: As long as he’s actually healthy.


When the game in IN Cleveland... yeah I doubt he misses it.

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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves [UPDATED] 

Post#278 » by SF_Warriors » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:42 am

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jbk1234 wrote:I'm happy for Garland, but he should really consider declining if he's missing games due to injury. He won't because the game has financial implications for guys on rookie contracts, but really should use the break to rest up.


I get that, in theory. But for a guy like Garland, getting on the court, practicing with all these dudes, and the confidence is gives young players? It’ll be a really big experience for him, I know Tatum and other young guys really hit another gear after making it the first time.

Edit: As long as he’s actually healthy.


I think Garland playing with the olympic team helped him immensely. He's already been in that type of environment. But as a young player in his first all star game being in the city of his team? I would do everything in my power to play, aint nothing would stop me unless I couldnt walk.
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Post#279 » by KGtabake » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:43 am

turnaroundJ wrote:Lamelo’s gotta get in for someone


Yup. Him and Allen.
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Post#280 » by LivingLegend » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:48 am

KGtabake wrote:
turnaroundJ wrote:Lamelo’s gotta get in for someone


Yup. Him and Allen.


I was going to say that too, suprised Allen didnt make it. I figured he would be far more popular with players/coaches with how he plays than he would be with the fan vote. Maybe he gets subbed in for KD if that decision hasnt already been made yet.

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