Wednesday 2/9 Game Thread

Ballerhogger · Post #261 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:31 am

No reason keep Vogel/Rob past this season . We should entertain ad trades . He be great for the bulls .. the bulls will fall short because of their big man issues this year.

Mamba Mentality · Post #262 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:32 am

I’ve been team Vogel from the start, but I think the time has come for the Lakers FO to fire him. The team clearly isn’t responding to him. This roster is beyond trash but I still find it hard to believe that we’re 4 games under .500 with Lebron and AD.

Post #263 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:32 am

Pointgod wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Westbrook at home like:

“Oh I thought I was the problem ****”

He was... 100%... Even when he's not playing, he's the problem... Because that trade killed this team and he's done nothing to help it on the court.

Westbrook is part of the problem no doubt but there are much other structural problems with the Lakers as evidence by them losing to the lowly Blazers. I’m no Westbrook apologist, he’s been absolute garbage on the Lakers but this loss just exposes the cracks in the armour

The structural problems are about 80% a result of the Westbook trade at a minimum...

Yes the lakers are a hot mess right now... No it's not entirely Westbrook's fault on the court... But it pretty much all comes down to that trade.
Unless, like me you're on board blaming LeBron for being arrogant enough to still think he can coast through the reg season and beast in the playoffs and that's enough... Always taking defense days off...
And blaming AD for thinking he can be like LeBron...

AD and LeBron are no longer a dominant Duo... that said, if they hadn't traded for Westbrook, and maybe made one of the other trades that were rumored... That might not have been as big an issue.

Post #264 » by **Prez** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:32 am

Was curious so I looked it up, Lakers have a -2.1 net rating with AD/Bron on court *without* Russ.

Russ is definitely a big problem but this is a total roster construction failure. Just insane to me that you could be losing the minutes those two are on the floor. Just colossal mismanagement of a supporting roster around a championship duo.

DroseReturnChi · Post #265 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:33 am

Ballerhogger wrote:No reason keep Vogel/Rob past this season . We should entertain ad trades . He be great for the bulls .. the bulls will fall short because of their big man issues this year.

i just never understand why legm never uses klutch connection ad for lavine. it would be win win both hometown talents go back.
bulls are the worst team defensively they really need AD badly and play gobert role.

MindState · Post #266 » by **MindState** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:33 am

Yikes. Simons is the absolute truth. Blazers got their next star for sure.

Ballerhogger · Post #267 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:34 am

Mamba Mentality wrote:I’ve been team Vogel from the start, but I think the time has come for the Lakers FO to fire him. The team clearly isn’t responding to him. I don’t care how trash this roster is, with AD and Lebron there is no way we should be 4 games under .500.

Lebron body is catching up . You can tell, by body language. I think he has enough to catch Kareem but that’s it. .

Post #268 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:34 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:This one is 100% on LeBron and AD... That said, it's a bit understandable given the second night of a B2B with last night being against Giannis...
That and a lot of our key rotation players weren't playing... Howard, Melo... No idea why DAJ didn't play though...
Point being, this wasn't on Frank V, can't blame Westbrook... THT was key to us even being in the game... Monk was pretty bad... Johnson was good... Bradley was a mixed bag... Ellington looked good for a while...

Monk was horrible, worst game of his season

Yeah... He's been working on a few of those lately... I might roll with Ellington for a while until he gets his mojo back.

BallerTalk · Post #269 » by **BallerTalk** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:35 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:Portland literally has nobody left on that roster so we should win this easily. With that said Portland by 20.

FIFY

Post #270 » by **The Sebastian Express** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:35 am

jbk1234 wrote:LBJ is starting to show his age, but the biggest concern for Lakers fans has to be AD. He just plays with zero sense of urgency/energy.

LeBron missed at least three layups tonight that we'd never see him miss before and it wasn't like he was getting bodied by great defenders. I was really surprised to see that - I don't know if he's hurt, if he was tired, frustrated or it's just age catching up with him. But seeing three point blank layups rim off was pretty surprising.

RamonSessions7 · Post #271 » by **RamonSessions7** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:35 am

Teams cooked. Vogel’s gone

Ballerhogger · Post #272 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:35 am

Prez wrote:Was curious so I looked it up, Lakers have a -2.1 net rating with AD/Bron on court *without* Russ.

Russ is definitely a big problem but this is a total roster construction failure. Just insane to me that you could be losing the minutes those two are on the floor. Just colossal mismanagement of a supporting roster around a championship duo.

Absolutely.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #273 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:36 am

BallerTalk wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:Portland literally has nobody left on that roster so we should win this easily. With that said Portland by 20.

FIFY

Im Nostradamus what can i say. Should have bet on them because i was pretty sure we'd lose this one.

Pantsman · Post #274 » by **Pantsman** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:37 am

Lebron needs to take a week trip to Miami for his HGH injections.

Pointgod · Post #275 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:37 am

Kilroy wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
He was... 100%... Even when he's not playing, he's the problem... Because that trade killed this team and he's done nothing to help it on the court.

Westbrook is part of the problem no doubt but there are much other structural problems with the Lakers as evidence by them losing to the lowly Blazers. I’m no Westbrook apologist, he’s been absolute garbage on the Lakers but this loss just exposes the cracks in the armour

The structural problems are about 80% a result of the Westbook trade at a minimum...

Yes the lakers are a hot mess right now... No it's not entirely Westbrook's fault on the court... But it pretty much all comes down to that trade.
Unless, like me you're on board blaming LeBron for being arrogant enough to still think he can coast through the reg season and beast in the playoffs and that's enough... Always taking defense days off...
And blaming AD for thinking he can be like LeBron...

AD and LeBron are no longer a dominant Duo... that said, if they hadn't traded for Westbrook, and maybe made one of the other trades that were rumored... That might not have been as big an issue.

You can’t blame Westbrook entirely on lack of defence, lack of effort, AD playing like the smallest big man ever and horrible roster construction. The trade for Westbrook was a bad fit from the beginning, anyone could see that and I said as much in the offseason. I didn’t think he’d be exposed this early, I thought it would be the playoffs to really show his limitations. You can 100% blame Westbrook for his trash play but you can’t blame him for what he was traded for. That’s on management and ownership. This loss is the perfect encapsulation of the limitations of Lebron, AD, Vogel, Pelinka etc.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #276 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:37 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:LBJ is starting to show his age, but the biggest concern for Lakers fans has to be AD. He just plays with zero sense of urgency/energy.

LeBron missed at least three layups tonight that we'd never see him miss before and it wasn't like he was getting bodied by great defenders. I was really surprised to see that - I don't know if he's hurt, if he was tired, frustrated or it's just age catching up with him. But seeing three point blank layups rim off was pretty surprising.

This is Lebron not giving a ****. It's happened plenty this season. He had at least 5 unforced turnovers.

JujitsuFlip · Post #277 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:37 am

How Lakers lose to a team intentionally trying to tank?

GeorgeSears · Post #278 » by **GeorgeSears** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:38 am

It's interesting with the Lakers because it seems like every week this team hits "rock bottom". I thought it was rock bottom after the Denver game where the Nuggets had their best shooting night of the season by a mile. But it's been eclipsed.

sacking123 · Post #279 » by **sacking123** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:39 am

Apologies for posting this in the Lakers game thread, but the Kings looked pretty good tonight after a sloppy start.

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Post #280 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:39 am

AD and LeBron were completely gassed tonight after battling the Bucks/Giannis last night... That game might have broken them...

So figure that in to your hot takes about AD and LeBron tonight... They looked terrible... But it's a kind of terrible lakers fans haven't seen this season...
Actually AD had started looking more dominant on both ends of the floor until he left it all on the court trying to keep Giannis from going for 60

Who ya got?