Danny Ainge just took the whole NBA execs to school

[Warriorfan]

Really depends on what he does with the picks

[JJ_PR]

I think Ainge wants Utah to stay competitive while getting high picks. That's what he did in Boston. Utah has some very interesting pieces in Sexton, Agbaji, Markkanen, Kessler & more. That team could surprise.

Very excited to see the Cavs. Garland, Mitchell, Mobley & Allen are an extremely impressive big 4.

[Up-And-Coming]

The actual Jazz GM in Justin Zanik getting ignored in all of this haha

[MTJazzv3]

The amount of respect I have for that franchise, to take a team that was guaranteed to make the playoffs but also guaranteed to never contend, and blow it up is sky high. They could’ve just stayed as a 1st round contender and kept their fan base happy but they aren’t settling.

Coming from a Lakers fan - thank you. Who knows how this will roll out for the Jazz franchise in years to come but I'm down with the radical surgery Ainge just did. The Jazz are one of the most winning franchises in the league over the last 30 years without a chip so its deep introspection time as we compete for one of the worst records in the league in a down to the foundation re-build. But honestly, the late 90's Jazz was close as we came. Why not have Ainge give a throw at 3-dimensional chess in 2022? It definitely is a "not settling" view, risky as it is.

[The Rebel]

You can't, but you also don't get any where without taking a chance. Utah wasn't winning a championship with the roster as it was and there was little else to really pop that was in Mitchell's timeline. It was either mediocrity and lose Mitchell and Gobert, else get value now and get pieces that may work better.

Frankly, I'm glad they went with the latter.

they had a perennial 50+ win team, a lucky crack here and there and you could have gotten to the finals. now all the hope resides in picking someone as good as the best defender in the league and a dynamic shot creator who is arguably a top 20 player in the league. meh

and I didnt mention the total wasteland the team will be in next 4 years at least.

maybe by 2026 they will have a team as good as the mitchell and gobert jazz

Just wanted to point out the irony in a (fellow) nuggets fan asking how utah will be able to draft players as good as Gobert and Mitchell when the answer is pretty simple: let Denver draft them first.

That general manager and top 2 scouts are now with the Twolves and they already took his picks.

[Yeggo Poleggo]

The only team in the league that lost in this entire transaction is the Wolves.

[MTJazzv3]

I dunno. The Wolves could make noise after blowing hard for so long? There is one team per year that gets a championship and outside of maybe 4 teams every its even a close decision when the season tips off in October. By making noise, I mean they will be a new look with Rudy anchoring the rim - they have a supporting cast. Not championship material but they could become a hard out in the WC playoffs all of the sudden. That has to give some Wolves fans some hope. Right?

[BostonCouchGM]

The only team in the league that lost in this entire transaction is the Wolves.

the Jazz succeeded in large part due to Gobert and his presence. You think that the Wolves with Gobert will be any different? Despite there being KAT and Edwards there as well? Huh? The Wolves have arguably been THE worst run organization in the NBA. They've won two playoff series in their 33 year history and those came in the same postseason. It was a brilliant move that instantly made the Wolves contenders. I really can't imagine how anyone could see this as a loss for them. Because they're giving up a slew of late 1sts? Seriously? Too funny

[CallMeKahn]

they had a perennial 50+ win team, a lucky crack here and there and you could have gotten to the finals. now all the hope resides in picking someone as good as the best defender in the league and a dynamic shot creator who is arguably a top 20 player in the league. meh

and I didnt mention the total wasteland the team will be in next 4 years at least.

maybe by 2026 they will have a team as good as the mitchell and gobert jazz

Just wanted to point out the irony in a (fellow) nuggets fan asking how utah will be able to draft players as good as Gobert and Mitchell when the answer is pretty simple: let Denver draft them first.

That general manager and top 2 scouts are now with the Twolves and they already took his picks.

Connolly is forever snakebit by Utah.

[Luv those Knicks]

Show me one team that has won a championship by hoarding picks and turning the franchise into a disgrace for years on end.

It’s the most lauded team-building strategy that has never produced even a finalist.

The Spurs are the obvious example. The year DR got hurt they didn't even try to put a good team on the court, won 17 games and landed Duncan. Won a bunch of titles.

The Cavs after they lost LeBron turned into the worst team in the league, added some picks, got Kyrie, got LeBron back and won a title.

Maybe those teams didn't acquire a ton of picks, but the rebuild and try to win the lottery approach has worked.

I'll turn the question around. How many teams have traded a bunch of picks for a superstar and won a title? Maybe the Raptors and Leonard, but that's rare too.

The real answer to your question is that the sample size is too small to bet on past results being consistent. Lots of ways this could go.

[Pantsman]

There’s nothing special about joining a team and trading off their star players for picks. You gotta do something with them now.

[rocketsfan100]

Will be interesting to see how Horton Tucker plays without Lebron and Westbrook dominating the rock. It makes this season and the next few seasons of tanking for the jazz fans atleast intriguing. Don’t expect much wins once the rest of the old guards like Conley, Bogi and Clarkson are gone.

This will be a hard and long rebuilding plan but it was needed

[Mavrelous]

Will be interesting to see how Horton Tucker plays without Lebron and Westbrook dominating the rock. It makes this season and the next few seasons of tanking for the jazz fans atleast intriguing. Don’t expect much wins once the rest of the old guards like Conley, Bogi and Clarkson are gone.

This will be a hard and long rebuilding plan but it was needed

If Jazz keep Conely and Bogi, sign a normal center, I could see them pulling 2020 OKC like season.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Cavs have been one of the most successful franchises in the last decade.

Successful at winning the draft lottery, sure. They were gifted 11 healthy seasons of a consensus top 2 player in NBA history, along with a 4 year stretch of three other #1 overall picks and two #4s. Remove LeBron from the equation and there's not a whole lot Cleveland has done right until recently, many would even argue that their first 7 years of LeBron were so plagued by mismanagement that LeBron literally had to leave in order to ever have any hopes of winning a title

on the flip side. tough to find many bad moves since Altman took over.

Pretty impressive what he’s done in the 4 years since LeBron left.

What about the Love extension?
You don't get much worse than that.

[Rubio9Guy]

He absolutely screwed over the TWolves, but the Cavs deal really isn't that great for him. He gave up a 25 year old top 15 player for 3 picks that may not turn out to be anything. Trying to lump that in on the strength of the Gobert deal is ridiculous.

Lmao Mitchell is not a top 15 player. Gobert is closer to that than Mitchell.

The Wolves picks may not turn out to be anything either.

Your bias is showing

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[Rubio9Guy]

The narrative behind the Cavs trade vs the Wolves is so comical to me.

Essentially the same trade when you consider Gobert is the better player (heck, I'd rather have Sexton and Markannen over any player the Wolves have up).

And yet, people are gushing about the Cavs .

People love themselves scorers thay can't do anything else.

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[Ryoga Hibiki]

Read on Twitter

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both excellent trades

[Ryoga Hibiki]

There’s nothing special about joining a team and trading off their star players for picks. You gotta do something with them now.

1) there's the decision of going for it, recognizing where they were and convincing the ownership about it
2) there's the ability to actually max out on the returns. nobody believed he could get that much from Rudy

[Rubio9Guy]

There’s nothing special about joining a team and trading off their star players for picks. You gotta do something with them now.

1) there's the decision of going for it, recognizing where they were and convincing the ownership about it
2) there's the ability to actually max out on the returns. nobody believed he could get that much from Rudy

What about Mitchell?

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[Ryoga Hibiki]

There’s nothing special about joining a team and trading off their star players for picks. You gotta do something with them now.

1) there's the decision of going for it, recognizing where they were and convincing the ownership about it
2) there's the ability to actually max out on the returns. nobody believed he could get that much from Rudy

What about Mitchell?

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I think he got from Mitchell more or less what someone could expect, probably a bit on the high end.
If somehow they can increase Sexton's value it could be a real steal, though.