Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

[Joshyjess]

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

Are work place rules different for a head coach and some one you assume to be a low level staffer?

Get that misogynist garbage out of here, I'm just calling out the double standards.

That other person been disciplined too? I think that’s important for public to know

I wonder if it's like the policy some universites have where a teacher can't have a relationship with one of their students. If they do, it's normally the teach who gets in trouble and not so much the student (even though they were both consensualy involved). Without knowing exactly what happened (and exactly who was involved), and what the C's actual policy is, it's hard to know what to think).

[nikster]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

You should be suspended for a year for baseless name-calling.

Report me

[Antinomy]

You know we can look up the actual data and don't need to make guesses? Do you even know where that 50% number comes from?

Current estimate of marriage ending in divorce is like 30-35%. It's a lot lower among youth then boomers. People who wait longer, have education divorce at lower rates.

Not taking sides here, but I love how everyone refers to their sources instead of linking them. Chances are the people in this argument are looking at multiple different sources, but by not linking them, we can't get to the root of the disagreement...

Link your sources folks, otherwise this convo will keep going in circles with mysterious sources being mentioned...

Why though, when pretty much EVERY source is unanimous on this. I get what you’re saying, but a simple Google of : “divorce rate 50%”, will LITERALLY yield link after link that debunk the idea that half of all marriages end in divorce. And it’s been that way for years.

The article I’m assuming you’re referencing SAYS IT’S 40% in FIRST MARRIAGES.

You’re getting so stuck on the 50% number — it’s very weird.

4 out of 10 vs 5 out of 10 is still pretty damn high.

[Zeno]

Ok. I’m going back to work. I’ve had my entertainment for the day.

Hands off your co-workers, ok? Learn from Ime.

[Antinomy]

Ok. I’m going back to work. I’ve had my entertainment for the day.

Lmaooo thanks for the laughs dude

Hope your (great) marriage lasts buddy.

[Joshyjess]

Ok. I’m going back to work. I’ve had my entertainment for the day.

As a Celtic's fan, I've had my "entertainment" quota filled for the whole year by now. Please no more "entertainment" from the C's camp!!!! Please!!!!

[kg01]

Seems like an overreaction but we don't know the details.

What if there was some 'undue influence' questions going on? Would that make the possible year suspension make more sense for some?

Also find it funny all these folks citing unfair treatment and wanting to 'out' the female. "Females wouldn't get treated the same, blah, blah, blah".

Yeah us dudes are soooo mistreated.

Get over yourselves.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Because he's a public figure as the head coach of an NBA team and she's is likely a low level staffer nobody has heard about before...

Misogynists love griping about made up unfair treatment

You should be suspended for a year for baseless name-calling.

Report me

I won't. You should practice more discretion in throwing around accusatory words though. Words matter. I once had a white guy tell me I was racist against Black people ... and I'm Black.

My Black wife and Black kids had a good laugh about that over dinner.

[Cubbies2120]

You know we can look up the actual data and don't need to make guesses? Do you even know where that 50% number comes from?

Current estimate of marriage ending in divorce is like 30-35%. It's a lot lower among youth then boomers. People who wait longer, have education divorce at lower rates.

Not taking sides here, but I love how everyone refers to their sources instead of linking them. Chances are the people in this argument are looking at multiple different sources, but by not linking them, we can't get to the root of the disagreement...

Link your sources folks, otherwise this convo will keep going in circles with mysterious sources being mentioned...

Why though, when pretty much EVERY source is unanimous on this. I get what you’re saying, but a simple Google of : “divorce rate 50%”, will LITERALLY yield link after link that debunk the idea that half of all marriages end in divorce. And it’s been that way for years.

I typed the following in Google:
"what % of marriages end in divorce usa"

First 2 results:
#1 https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ - "Almost 50 percent of all marriages in the United States will end in divorce or separation."

#2 https://legaljobs.io/blog/divorce-rate-in-america/ - sources are at bottom: "Many people believe that this figure is around 50%. However, the actual percentage of marriages that end in divorce in the US varies between 40% and 50%"

[Tai]

For what it's worth on the divorce rates, per the CDC it does seem they've been decreasing the past 20 years:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/national-marriage-divorce-rates-00-20.pdf

From 4.0 per 1000 in 2000, all the way down to 2.3 per 1000 in 2020.

[CM17]

Not a good year for Boston. First Gallinari, now Udoka out.

[dlts20]

I just woke up and saw this on undisputed. Can someone help me understand because I don't get it. It doesn't ses like there was no abuse, no manipulation, everything was consensual between adults, etc. If I'm in the Celtics brass idgaf about this. If it's wrong then give him 20 games but the season?

[KHRICH]

Read on Twitter

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If true...yikes

[Ballerhogger]

Read on Twitter

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If true...yikes

[Ballerhogger]

0%..... What is going in boston????????

[MoneyTalks41890]

“Consensual relationship” is in Woj’s tweet, but does not appear in Woj’s much longer story…

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34639780/boston-celtics-coach-ime-udoka-facing-potential-disciplinary-action-team-violation-sources-say

I haven’t been watching TV have they been reporting on Woj’s tweet or has anyone brought anything new?

[Antinomy]

For what it's worth on the divorce rates, per the CDC it does seem they've been decreasing the past 20 years:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/national-marriage-divorce-rates-00-20.pdf

From 4.0 per 1000 in 2000, all the way down to 2.3 per 1000 in 2020.

There’s a difference between a rate & a percentage. Example:

In 2021: 12 people ate an apple & 6 enjoyed it.

In 2022: 8 people ate an apple & 4 enjoyed it.

The rate decreased (since less people ate apples), but the percentage stayed the same (since 50% still enjoyed it).

[Harry Garris]

udoka is a good dude. hope its nothing serious

We don't know much about Ime Udoka outside of his job. He seems like a good basketball coach but that's irrelevant to how he behaves during the rest of his life.

Not saying we should pass judgement until facts come out, but a lot of seemingly "good people" have done terrible things. Definitely shouldn't let our perception of a guy cloud what the facts are if he did in fact do something illegal or even break team policy.

[bradybunch]

Oh gosh, now the NBA is pretending to be the moral authority.

What a joke.

Free this man.

[WuTang_CMB]

udoka is a good dude. hope its nothing serious

We don't know much about Ime Udoka outside of his job. He seems like a good basketball coach but that's irrelevant to how he behaves during the rest of his life.

Not saying we should pass judgement until facts come out, but a lot of seemingly "good people" have done terrible things. Definitely shouldn't let our perception of a guy cloud what the facts are if he did in fact do something illegal or even break team policy.

I've met him twice so speaking to my personal opinion of him. If he was separated and broke a team rule, that still doesn't make him a bad guy. Mistakes happen. That's life.